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#2243456 - 03/09/14 05:11 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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How on earth does anybody play 4 different melody sections, with repeats and consequential change overs from memory and not expect mistakes? Not gonna happen is it? The older you get . . .the more brazen you get.

I have broad shoulders, They also slope . . . my recording will be fun. It will not be technically correct.

I crashed my car into a bridge. And I don`t care . . .I love it
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#2243463 - 03/09/14 05:35 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: peterws]
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Originally Posted By: peterws
How on earth does anybody play 4 different melody sections, with repeats and consequential change overs from memory and not expect mistakes? Not gonna happen is it? The older you get . . .the more brazen you get.

I have broad shoulders, They also slope . . . my recording will be fun. It will not be technically correct.

I crashed my car into a bridge. And I don`t care . . .I love it


Peter, that's quite inspiration to a gal who takes her flubs all too seriously. Wise words - you are having GREAT fun - I can't wait to hear your piece!
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#2243541 - 03/09/14 10:54 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: peterws]
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Originally Posted By: peterws
How on earth does anybody play 4 different melody sections, with repeats and consequential change overs from memory and not expect mistakes? ...

Practice grin
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#2243615 - 03/09/14 01:06 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: peterws]
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Originally Posted By: peterws


I have broad shoulders, They also slope . . . my recording will be fun. It will not be technically correct.

I crashed my car into a bridge. And I don`t care . . .I love it



Gee... I hope that everybody will turn out music. Yes, there are those who will listen and think this or that on technical viewpoints. Making music is what it's all about. I know you're good at doing that. Know I'll enjoy what you do.

Strange how those bridges jump out in front of cars. Darn things can't sit still!


Even though there is no way I could do the original of my piece. I was taking it above my simplified version. I got cut back by my teacher. This is not good for my development physiologically. Need to take that incrementally. Everything from my coach verifies this. So I'll be turning out my simplified version that is on the side of musical. Trying to capture the intent, the "stop and smell the roses" of the melody. Trying to make it enjoyable. Not just another bland copy that you people have to tolerate listening to. Hope to get it out sometime today.
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#2244242 - 03/10/14 12:31 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Gladiolus Rag is fine (~10 mins a day since 12/1!). I just received my video Recorder Zoom Q2HD


Here's my question... will the instructions in the thread for the Zoom H4 work with this?

Is there a better thread to look at. I have done NOTHING with the recorder at this point.

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#2244504 - 03/10/14 11:05 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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I'm in!
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#2244827 - 03/11/14 04:28 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Registered: 09/21/13
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Loc: Georgia, USA
Whew, I am in too. With Whizbang and Sam S' help I succeeded
in submitting "The Cascades A Rag". Thanks!

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#2244923 - 03/11/14 07:45 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
AudreyJean Offline
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Registered: 09/22/13
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Phooey, I was almost ready to give up today. This is my first submittal, and I read months ago a lot of information about how to do an MP3 recording. First thing: buy a midi cable. I live on a remote island, and have to order things well in advance. I ordered a midi cable to connect the computer to my Yamaha avant grande, and when it arrived, put it aside until the time came to record. A couple of weeks ago, I decided to try a trial run. Lo and behold, there is more than one type of midi cable, and of course I had ordered the wrong type. So I went to the owners manual, and ordered the correct one. It arrived yesterday. I have now spent two of the most frustrating days in my life, trying to figure this thing out. All the connections are in place, the driver appears to be installed on the computer, but I can't figure out how to get the things started. Much reading online, much trying of every possible suggestion, and the result continues to be failure.

I was ready to throw in the towel, and write in saying that I could not do my submission, but then remembered something. There is an ipad application called voice memo. It can record things, and turn them into MP3 files. So I tried one section of my Joplin piece that way, and it works! It's not the greatest sound in the world, but then my playing isn't the greatest in the world, so we match. At least this is made me so frustrated that for two days I wasn't worried about how Searchlight sounds, just how Searchlight can get recorded. Any other first time submitters having difficulties recording?

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#2244927 - 03/11/14 07:51 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: AudreyJean]
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Originally Posted By: AudreyJean
I was ready to throw in the towel, and write in saying that I could not do my submission, but then remembered something. There is an ipad application called voice memo. It can record things, and turn them into MP3 files. So I tried one section of my Joplin piece that way, and it works! It's not the greatest sound in the world.


That's great news! I have to say I'm going to enjoy listening a recording with imperfect audio quality a hundred times more than not being able to listen to a performance at all. Looking forward to it.

Check that you're going to be able to get the audio off your iPad and that the format is .mp3 or can be converted to .mp3.

Originally Posted By: AudreyJean
Any other first time submitters having difficulties recording?


The first time I tried to record a video, something about the audio encoding meant that it wouldn't line up with the video I took. For something that's supposed to be easy, technology companies sure can make it difficult.

EDIT: ...aaand I should learn to read.
Originally Posted By: AudreyJean
It can record things, and turn them into MP3 files.


Edited by Whizbang (03/11/14 07:53 PM)
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#2244939 - 03/11/14 08:12 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Thanks, Whizbang!

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#2244981 - 03/11/14 09:08 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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So...I thought I would have time to get this done, except we found our dream house and my piano has been in storage for a few weeks while we move! I will have my done, but not by the deadline at all. I hope it's okay if I can put them up afterwards! I'm really upset about not making the deadline since I've had so much fun and absolutely fallen in love with Joplin as a result of this.
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#2244998 - 03/11/14 09:57 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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That's a promise, Anne. Hope to see Bink's up on the piano bar or at an ABF general recital soon!
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#2245164 - 03/12/14 02:54 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: AudreyJean]
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Originally Posted By: AudreyJean

I was ready to throw in the towel, and write in saying that I could not do my submission, but then remembered something. There is an ipad application called voice memo. It can record things, and turn them into MP3 files. So I tried one section of my Joplin piece that way, and it works!


And Apple came to the rescue smile

Yes the sound quality of the iPad recording is not great but not too bad either. I use it all the time for my acoustic. To record my (very basic) digital piano I use a simple USB cable to connect it to my computer.
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#2245167 - 03/12/14 03:12 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Today`s the day . . .bit o` outdoor painting to do (sunny at the moment, right time of year) and then, well, keeping one`s fingers crossed isn't quite the best option, is it?
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#2245172 - 03/12/14 03:52 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: peterws]
Whizbang Offline
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Originally Posted By: peterws
keeping one`s fingers crossed isn't quite the best option, is it?


Under no circumstances keep your fingers crossed while playing ragtime.
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#2245353 - 03/12/14 01:02 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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...and I've put up another submission.

stumbler had asked someone to do Joplin's "Great Crush Collision March," but no one took him up on the offer.

But I shanghai'ed my teacher into doing a performance. It's a really cool piece.
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#2245375 - 03/12/14 01:53 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Originally Posted By: Whizbang
...and I've put up another submission.

stumbler had asked someone to do Joplin's "Great Crush Collision March," but no one took him up on the offer.

But I shanghai'ed my teacher into doing a performance. It's a really cool piece.


Read this:

Crush, Texas
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#2245379 - 03/12/14 02:00 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Both my pieces are in and a quick glance at the list of players already up tells me I'm really going to enjoy this.

Thank you so much, Whizbang, for all you've done for us on this. I've had a real blast working up these pieces.
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#2245511 - 03/12/14 05:57 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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My second is in too; It`ll have to do, I ain`t doin` it again, not yet anyway. Needs a bit of tweaking now . . .but I like to think I`m getting there. . . my thanks to the organizer(s) without which I probably wouldn`t even be bothered playing again . .
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#2245545 - 03/12/14 07:15 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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yea, hooray, huzzah, ecstasy and joy, I am in. Am listening (and occasionally wincing) to my submission as I type. This was such fun. I've never done anything like this before. What a pleasure it will be to listen to everybody's submissions and know that we were all working on our pieces for the past few months, and all devoting our time and energies to Scott Joplin. Oh oh, think I'm speeding up towards the end. Probably am so excited at finally getting through a recording with only a few clinkers that I am hurrying to get it over with before a big mistake can catch up with me.

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#2245574 - 03/12/14 08:27 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Quote:
stumbler had asked someone to do Joplin's "Great Crush Collision March," but no one took him up on the offer.

But I shanghai'ed my teacher into doing a performance. It's a really cool piece.


Yep, just listened to it ... I could easily turn the intro into a train wreck cry ... glad your teacher is taking it on.
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#2245599 - 03/12/14 09:09 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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I just noticed the midnight eastern turn in time..whew!!

Not that it'll make this sound better hehehe

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#2245629 - 03/12/14 09:55 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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I got it up.
Not too crazy about it. Might very well redo it. Went through so much to get it converted and available for upload. Actually rerecorded it in another DAW. I just had to get it done.


Edited by rnaple (03/13/14 01:12 AM)
Edit Reason: success
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#2245714 - 03/13/14 01:32 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: AudreyJean]
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Originally Posted By: AudreyJean
Phooey, I was almost ready to give up today. This is my first submittal, and I read months ago a lot of information about how to do an MP3 recording. First thing: buy a midi cable. I live on a remote island, and have to order things well in advance. I ordered a midi cable to connect the computer to my Yamaha avant grande, and when it arrived, put it aside until the time came to record. A couple of weeks ago, I decided to try a trial run. Lo and behold, there is more than one type of midi cable, and of course I had ordered the wrong type. So I went to the owners manual, and ordered the correct one. It arrived yesterday. I have now spent two of the most frustrating days in my life, trying to figure this thing out. All the connections are in place, the driver appears to be installed on the computer, but I can't figure out how to get the things started. Much reading online, much trying of every possible suggestion, and the result continues to be failure.

I was ready to throw in the towel, and write in saying that I could not do my submission, but then remembered something. There is an ipad application called voice memo. It can record things, and turn them into MP3 files. So I tried one section of my Joplin piece that way, and it works! It's not the greatest sound in the world, but then my playing isn't the greatest in the world, so we match. At least this is made me so frustrated that for two days I wasn't worried about how Searchlight sounds, just how Searchlight can get recorded. Any other first time submitters having difficulties recording?


Having the same issue.
First time for me to record anything using midi and computer and had the most difficult time in the world.

I also have a midi to USB converter. Plugged properly into piano and into computer.
Downloaded Audacity.

For the life of me cant seem to transmit whatever I play into Audacity. The computer recognizes the usb midi but Audacity only records the internal mic pick up.

So I downloaded Red Dot Forever. It took whatever I played into MIDI format but the software doesnt interpret a lot of things so different dynamics doesnt register so everything sounds like I spike the keys instead of a nice flowing legato or something.

Now I have to figure out how to convert the MIDI file into MP3 and then from there..
how to upload the MP3 to the site.


Hope those latter steps are not as hard as the first step.

I am not even ready to record my piece either.
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#2245717 - 03/13/14 01:43 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: briansaddleback]
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Originally Posted By: briansaddleback
Originally Posted By: AudreyJean
Phooey, I was almost ready to give up today. ... Any other first time submitters having difficulties recording?


Having the same issue.



You people should ask in the Digital Piano Forum. Lots of great experience there to help.
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#2246068 - 03/13/14 05:17 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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Originally Posted By: briansaddleback

Having the same issue.
...
For the life of me cant seem to transmit whatever I play into Audacity. The computer recognizes the usb midi but Audacity only records the internal mic pick up.


Not sure if it will help, but a couple of things to check for in Audacity;

The middle 2 dropdowns, for sound and mic near the top of the editor should recognize the new driver and the new driver should be selected from these dropdowns.

You may need to adjust the project rate (Hz)(bottom left corner of editor.) If set at 44100 or other, try 32000.

I seem to recall similar issues in the past and played with these variable until I eventually got it to hear the mics (in my case). So, just a couple things to try if you are still struggling.

Best of luck ...
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#2246078 - 03/13/14 05:49 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Greener]
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Loc: Irvine CA
Originally Posted By: Greener
Originally Posted By: briansaddleback

Having the same issue.
...
For the life of me cant seem to transmit whatever I play into Audacity. The computer recognizes the usb midi but Audacity only records the internal mic pick up.


Not sure if it will help, but a couple of things to check for in Audacity;

The middle 2 dropdowns, for sound and mic near the top of the editor should recognize the new driver and the new driver should be selected from these dropdowns.

You may need to adjust the project rate (Hz)(bottom left corner of editor.) If set at 44100 or other, try 32000.

I seem to recall similar issues in the past and played with these variable until I eventually got it to hear the mics (in my case). So, just a couple things to try if you are still struggling.

Best of luck ...



Thanks I tried all sorts of stuff to get audacity to recognize the usb/midi driver from the drop downs and from preferences. Tried reloading a new driver from device manager and s o forth.

I actually downloaded another program which is Anvil and it works great.
It is more robust than the red dot forever and recognizes nuances of the note played so I will be using this
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#2246150 - 03/13/14 07:55 PM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: briansaddleback]
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Thanks Ron and Greener.

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#2246318 - 03/14/14 02:43 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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"Something Doing" is submitted. Nothing like the last minute. I never did get a better recording, unfortunately, so I'm going with what I have. If by a miracle I pull off a better recording tomorrow, I might replace it, but it'd take a miracle. Anyway, it's 2:45am right now and I need to go to bed... tired
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#2246324 - 03/14/14 03:12 AM Re: ABF Joplin-themed recital -- Call for Submissions [Re: Whizbang]
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"I never did get a better recording, unfortunately, so I'm going with what I have. "

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