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#2241831 - 03/05/14 06:02 PM Nice new RD800 / CP4 comparison
ahrensjt Offline
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Registered: 07/15/13
Posts: 2
Hi All,

I found this Polish music shop's Feb 26th comparison of the RD-800 and the CP4 useful - you might appreciate it too. Would be interesting if you hear things the way I do...
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2:35 Playing starts. RD-800 V-piano-derived patch.

This sounds like a REALLY close mic'd piano. Attack is a bit metallic to me.

2:51-2:55 I like the slightly evolving sustain here.

2:56 Even at medium volumes, still a somewhat metallic attack to my ears. But my personal preference is for a bit more woodiness.

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3:41 CP4 patch 1 starts.

Seems like "mic placement" is a little "further away" than the Roland.

3:58-4:01 Maybe I'm reading too many Dewster posts smile but I swear I can hear the static looping in this sustain. Doesn't sound quite as organic as the Roland.

4:02 Attack seems a bit more realistic than the Roland to me. especially in the upper registers.

4:33-4:36 Same sustain "plainness" as earlier.

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4:57: RD-800 NX concert grand

4:57 A less artificial attack than v-piano derived patch. More to my taste than the first one.

5:09 As he pounds the keys the attack gets a little more metallic -- but the the dynamics are really big! (very present bottom end)

5:48 Same powerful low end as prior patch. However, something about the balance between low and high end seems off to me. Maybe just the huge stereo width?

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5:55 CP4 patch 2

6:06 Rich and pleasant low end, but doesn't have the dynamics of the Roland to my ears.

6:43 I like the low/high end balance much better here than on the Roland.

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6:57 RD-800 Studio

I can see why this gets a lot of praise on this forum. Woodier than the prior Roland patches, but with the same nice "moving" sustain.

7:43-7:46 Again, high note decay seems overpowered by the thunderous low end... I like the Yammy's balance a bit better (8:42). Perhaps he didn't hit the high keys hard enough, and could be addressed also by changing the touch curve?

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This was a lot of fun for me, and helpful as I am shoppng for a DP and plan to spend a lot of time soon in local music stores testing them for myself. They both sound quite nice, and as usual it will come down to personal preference.

And BTW, as a long time lurker, this is one of the best forums of any kind on the Web - helpful, insightful, respectful.


Cheers,
Jeff

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#2241832 - 03/05/14 06:03 PM Re: Nice new RD800 / CP4 comparison [Re: ahrensjt]
ahrensjt Offline
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Registered: 07/15/13
Posts: 2
Sorry - I didn't include the link. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU-jFzCMYhs&noredirect=1

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#2241877 - 03/05/14 07:44 PM Re: Nice new RD800 / CP4 comparison [Re: ahrensjt]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 8866
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
Grooveman posted the clip with additional comparisons here:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2239005

Cheers,
James
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#2241900 - 03/05/14 08:47 PM Re: Nice new RD800 / CP4 comparison [Re: ahrensjt]
Hideki Matsui Offline
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Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 787
I'm not sure about the 800NX, but on the LX-15e you can adjust Dynamic Harmonic, which are the metallic resonances you hear when he is hitting the keys harder.


Edited by Hideki Matsui (03/05/14 08:48 PM)
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