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#2240859 - 03/03/14 06:16 PM Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret?
Dan1833 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/14
Posts: 1
I moved to the states last summer from the UK and sadly I had to leave my gear behind. I had been borrowing an old yamaha keyboard while I looked for decent stage piano, and made the decision to order the Nord Piano 2.

Here's the thing, I really liked the tone when I listened to the examples on the nord website, but when I tried the Nord stage 2 in store I hated it because of the action and the sound wasn't great either. I'm hoping that I'll prefer the Nord piano action and it'll sound good through better speakers, but if not I'm thinking of either the Roland RD700NX or the Kawai MP11.

How do you think the Nord Piano 2 compares (tone and action) vs the Roland RD700NX with Ivory 2 software?

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#2240884 - 03/03/14 07:06 PM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
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Registered: 03/20/07
Posts: 3097
Loc: Oregon
Welcome to the expats club, Dan!

I have owned the Nord Piano (twice!). I never developed much love for that action. However, with the Fazioli, Bosendorfer and Yamaha Bright Grand loaded, it really sings. Top octave or so is a little weak, but those three sample sets are superlative otherwise.

The Rolands have a very well matched action and sound engine, plus the lack of stretching, full resonance, natural decay, and smooth layer transitions make for a well-rounded machine. They can get a little lost in a mix, due to the rather dark timbre. I don't know how it'd fare with Ivory 2, but can't imagine there would be an issue with a fast PC. The MP11 sounds like a winner - if you can manage 70lbs.
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#2240897 - 03/03/14 07:35 PM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
Kawai James Offline
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Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 9528
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
In terms of sound quality, Nords are up there with the very best - largely due to their ability to download a large variety of different samples.

The control interface of Nord instruments is also excellent, especially for live use. And due to their compact size and relatively low weight, Nord instruments are very popular with gigging musicians.

However, if the instrument is to be kept in one place, and you're coming from an acoustic piano background, I would recommend a Roland, Yamaha, or Kawai instrument based on the quality of the keyboard action.

Kind regards,
James
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Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 fan & occasional rare groove player.

"Richard, none of us could forget you have a CLP-990." - EssBrace, 2014

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#2241088 - 03/04/14 05:12 AM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
phunqe Offline
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Registered: 02/21/14
Posts: 49
If you value action, I would also fully recommend the MP11.

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#2241115 - 03/04/14 07:20 AM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
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Registered: 02/13/12
Posts: 636
Loc: Hernando, MS
I have a Nord Stage 2, which has a very similar action to the Nord Piano. I seem to be in the minority, but I actually like the action on the Nord. The action is much lighter than my venerable Yamaha P250 and my folk's upright Gulbransen piano, so I actually had a period of adjustment for a couple of weeks where I had a bit of buyer's remorse. So my first impression of the action wasn't all that positive. But what I found as I continued playing it was that it really grew on me. It's fantastically responsive and connects to the sound very well. And the sounds are among the best that you can get on any DP. And it has the advantage that it can load in new samples as Clavia/Nord produces them. In fact, they just recently gave us a new lovely upright sample set, and a few really nice new EP's (I love the new Wurly, but haven't downloaded the others yet).

So, my advice is to give it a few weeks and see if it doesn't grow on you too. It just might. And if it doesn't, well if Ebay is any guide, nords keep their resale value pretty well. smile

Warm Regards
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Nord Stage 2 HA88
Roland RD800

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#2241238 - 03/04/14 12:01 PM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
CyberGene Online   content
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 723
Loc: Sofia, Bulgaria
I think Nords are overhyped. They are red, designed in Sweden, not cheap, used by professionals all over the world, they are made with love and wisdom, etc. They must be pretty good! But each time I try a Nord piano I am very disappointed. There's something wrong with the keyboard, velocity mapping and the piano sound. I really want to like them... Even now that I am writing this, I think I may be missing something. I need to try again.
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Current DP: Kawai ES7
Previous DP-s: Kawai MP6, Kawai CA63, Roland RD-700SX, Roland FP-5, Yamaha P90, Korg SP-200, Casio CDP-100

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#2241327 - 03/04/14 02:50 PM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: fizikisto]
skantner Offline
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Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 14
I would agree with this sentiment too. I find I'm pretty fussy about the action, and prefer a good ole' acoustic grand (Bosendorfer) whenver possible, but I play a Nord Stage 2 every week in live performance, and I find it very pleasing.

//Scott

Originally Posted By: fizikisto
I have a Nord Stage 2, which has a very similar action to the Nord Piano. I seem to be in the minority, but I actually like the action on the Nord. The action is much lighter than my venerable Yamaha P250 and my folk's upright Gulbransen piano, so I actually had a period of adjustment for a couple of weeks where I had a bit of buyer's remorse. So my first impression of the action wasn't all that positive. But what I found as I continued playing it was that it really grew on me. It's fantastically responsive and connects to the sound very well. And the sounds are among the best that you can get on any DP. And it has the advantage that it can load in new samples as Clavia/Nord produces them. In fact, they just recently gave us a new lovely upright sample set, and a few really nice new EP's (I love the new Wurly, but haven't downloaded the others yet).

So, my advice is to give it a few weeks and see if it doesn't grow on you too. It just might. And if it doesn't, well if Ebay is any guide, nords keep their resale value pretty well. smile

Warm Regards


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#2241564 - 03/04/14 11:11 PM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
PianoZac Offline
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Registered: 02/22/10
Posts: 1425
Dan,

I have owned 2 Nord Pianos-the original NP88 and now the NP2. These keyboards are not the best choice IMHO for a stay-at-home acoustic piano replacement. They are, however, damn good gigging boards because of the size, weight, quality of samples, variety of samples, intuitive UI, flexible storage, and several other reasons. The samples Nord has also happen to record extremely well.

If you were not happy with the Stage 2 action, you probably won't be satisfied with the NP2 action either. They're the same Fatar action it's just the NS2 has aftertouch for synth work (nothing to do with piano playing) while the NP2 does not have aftertouch.

I have not played the MP11 but I have played the CP4, RD800, RD700NX, and all other top end DPs and I would most definitely go with the MP11 if the MP10 was anything to go by. By far the best action in a slab DP IMHO. What are your intentions?

Live use: Nord FTW.
Home use: MP11/VPC1/MP10 FTW.
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Yamaha AvantGrand N1
Nord Piano 2


"Be who you are and say how you feel. Because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

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#2241576 - 03/04/14 11:32 PM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: PianoZac]
pv88 Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/31/10
Posts: 2702
Hi, Zac:

It's been a while since I have seen your posts in the forum but am glad to see you are trying out some different digitals. The Nord Piano 2 has a lot of choices in their samples libraries.

The current DP's that I now own include:

1) Roland V-Piano
2) Clavinova CLP-480
3) Clavinova CLP-990*
4) Kawai EP3

*Extra note:

The CLP-990M (in Mahogany finish) was a difficult to locate discontinued model dating from 2001 and I was able to purchase it through a private seller located in New York and had it shipped over 750 miles to my house several states away.

Both Clavinova's are nice digitals due to their powerful speaker systems although I happen to like the authenticity of just the piano sounds in the older CLP-990 along with the decent weighted solid wooden keys.

And, the V-Piano has just about the best sustain, decay, and wide dynamic range in the keyboard response compared to any digital out there. It has a lot to offer the player.

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#2242037 - 03/06/14 04:15 AM Re: Just ordered Nord Piano 2, should i regret? [Re: Dan1833]
Dan_Raven Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/04/14
Posts: 10
A problem of the Nord's hammer action is that they are supposed to be a compromise to play dynamic sounds like piano and non-dynamic sounds like organ. The fact is that I just recently played a Nord Electro 4 HP which is twice as expensive as my Kawai MP6, but wasn't satisfying for playing either organ or piano. I think it is more reasonable to buy a Nord with semi-weighted action and another board with a very good hammer action.

And by the way, except for the weight I wouldn't trade my MP6 for another DP. So you might consider waiting for the probably soon upcoming MP6 successor and buying it. It will save a lot of money :-)

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