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#2244156 - 03/10/14 09:49 AM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Paul, congratulations on getting an ETD's indicator to stand still by moving the tuning pins this way and that. In professional piano tech lingo, this meaans your off your butt and crawling around on all fours. Next up is to get walking by learning what needs to be ignored on the software and finessed by ear. After that, you can train to start running... thats when those finely manipulated wires and pins stay stable longer than a day or two, or after someone plays on them.

As for the piano sounding "awesome", I'm hoping this is more the sentiment of the customer, rather than your own opinion. Kin Hubbard used to say..." The fellow who brags about how cheap he heats his home, always sees the first robin."


Edited by Emmery (03/11/14 01:38 AM)
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#2244201 - 03/10/14 11:03 AM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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The next question is does he have his business affairs (license, taxes, and insurance) all in order? Or does the bamboozled $90 go quietly in to the personal bank account?
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#2244552 - 03/11/14 02:52 AM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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If you gonna invest on a micrometer i recommend the disk micrometer since you can take mesures of the strings on place w/o disturbing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STARRETT-256-N-1-DISC-MICROMETERS-0-1-/261414799998

also theres a special micrometer for wires

http://www.amazon.com/Mitutoyo-147-402-M...wire+micrometer

they should be a non expensive ones you´ll have to find them
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#2244643 - 03/11/14 09:14 AM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Originally Posted By: Paul678

I performed the heat-gun hammer to correct crooked
hammers:



If the hammer is crooked than this is correct, but if the hammer just isn't in the right spot, you can loosen the flange and space the hammer to hit all three strings.
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#2244899 - 03/11/14 07:11 PM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Originally Posted By: Paul678

I performed the heat-gun hammer to correct crooked hammers:


Best to use the hair iron instead. That way a lot of other wooden components are not being super-heated along with any treble wire…

I stopped using the heat gun because they are so inefficient.
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#2244950 - 03/11/14 08:23 PM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Silverwood Pianos]
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Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Originally Posted By: Paul678

I performed the heat-gun hammer to correct crooked hammers:


Best to use the hair iron instead. That way a lot of other wooden components are not being super-heated along with any treble wire…

I stopped using the heat gun because they are so inefficient.

Yes, hair irons work really well to remove heads and shanks neatly. I have modified mine so that it hinges in a way to make the plates parallel at the thickness of a hammer and thus give better contact. I am not sure however about simply repositioning a head insitu.


Edited by Chris Leslie (03/12/14 05:59 AM)
Edit Reason: said opposite to what I meant!
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#2245994 - 03/13/14 02:57 PM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Hi Chris,
At times I have had a hammer head sink or twist as the glue dries. Leaving the others at rest and moving the offending head forward one is able to grab both sides of the head with the iron, heat the glue and shortly thereafter reposition the head correctly.

The heat gun blows hot air all over the place; heats things up that you don’t want and generally wastes a lot of energy in doing so. The hair iron heats by contact and directs heat to a particular area only, which is much more efficient in my view.
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#2246002 - 03/13/14 03:19 PM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Dan, I only just wonder about the integrity of the glue strength when it has been partially heated and repositioned without going through a proper softening stage without adequate moisture. When using a hair iron I like to drip water on the joint at the same time as heating.


Edited by Chris Leslie (03/13/14 04:42 PM)
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#2246046 - 03/13/14 04:23 PM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Did not find the hair iron really adequate for shanks but yes to heat recently glued head, why not. For shanks heating pliers or even better the alcohol lamp "finisher lamp.

PVA glues twist the head when drying, unless the hole is not very large.
Not a problem with hide/skin glue. No problem to heat recent hide glue. With a little moisture if necessary. Should be done with a wet cloth usually but this is to unglue totally.

the heat gun is cool to burn the extra fibers on some hammers.



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#2246142 - 03/13/14 07:44 PM Re: I'M GOING TO PIANO TUNER heck.... [Re: Paul678]
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Hi Chris,

I do this as the glue dries, not when completely dry for a few days. Doesn't damage the adhesive strength.
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