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A bundle with the VPC1, Ivory II American Concert Grand and the iLok key, can now be had for about 1400 euros at Thomann (Europe, if that's not obvious.) Almost makes me sorry for not waiting, since if I buy the Ivory II ACD, I will have spent about what the bundle costs. Though, I wouldn't have the onboard sounds of the Casio, which are quite good by the way.

Voxpops, which Pianoteq piano do you mostly use with your PX-5S? The Blüthner add on maybe?

When getting a controller, maybe it's advisable not to turn to the lowest cost DPs. Here is what says in a Keyboard Magazine review of the Ivory American Concert Grand.

Gripes? The Bb above middle C and the Db above that have a harshness that almost certainly is a factor of the source piano and not the Ivory sound engine, as we couldn’t reproduce it using other Ivory pianos.

So they blame the controller for what happened, though my guess is, they couldn't have used a low end DP to test the Ivory ACD.

Well, it doesn't have to feel just like a C3X. I'm not that picky. I am used to switching between different acoustic pianos. I would say that the GHS action is getting a bit too light, too plastiky (is that a word?). I like the NW keyboard but I don't want to pay for a full featured digital piano that usually feature these wooden actions. I think another person said it. The VPC1 seems unique.

Good question. I'm double checking, making real sure I didn't overlook alternate competitive product, not necessarily cheaper, but as keyboard goes, maybe a little different feel. I don't think one exist in the same price range as the VPC1, which is why I ask the infinitely more knowledgeable forum.

That is not what I would understand by their expression 'source piano'. I thought what they meant was that the piano sampled had that intrinsic quality of harshness, and to support that idea, they say that other Ivory sampled pianos do not exhibit these qualities. Therefore, their sample playback mechanism is not at fault.

That's serious savings!

I believe by 'source piano' the review author is referring to the sampled instrument, not the controller.

Kind regards,
James
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Yes, mainly the Bluthner, but also the D4, depending on context.


Yes, as toddy points out, they're talking about the piano from which the original samples were recorded, not the one you might use to play the software.

Interesting... I'll look into this as well. Yes, am mostly interested in wooden keys, but I won't be prejudice about something. I've tried Roland action, PH3, I think, not bad at all.

Thanks that helps a lot!

Slightly related question: with the VPC1 at $1850 and the RD800 at $2500 (in the US), is there any significant drawback to the RD800 as a controller against the VPC1 if one in general prefers the lighter action, besides the looks? I know $650 is nothing to scoff at, but the stage piano sound engine/etc. seems to make up the value, if all else were equal.

I've never tried the Ivory feel G action but it's been mentioned on here that it's really quite different to PH3.