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#2250977 - 03/23/14 01:36 PM Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows
WurliFan Offline
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Registered: 04/26/13
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Loc: Western PA
Hello, once again, great Piano masters. I seek out a piece of important wisdom for all of you who know the piano far better than I do.

What causes clicks in drop actions without the plastic elbows? By now, you guys know what sort of Action we're dealing with. The sticker design that is all wooden and does not connect with the ends of the keys, and is easier to service. However, about 20 keys out of the 88 click. It's a very weird little sound; I can't identify it. I could record it, but something tells me it can only be a couple things so we can narrow it down. I'm not looking to fix it, but I'm wondering if the tech will. My birthday draws near. Birthday=Cash. Extra 160 dollars(I have 100, I spent some of my money...well..a lot of my money!), =260 dollars in cash. I'm being realistic, regulation probably won't happen, but for an extra 160 dollars, voicing most likely can. The tone will sound a bit better on my piano, thank goodness!

But the question is; do you think these clicks can be fixed by a good tech who's not anti-spinetic? The action might have to come out, and that's what concerns me. You have to take out a LOT of screws and even the side block rests for the lid before you can take the action out.

The main question is; WHAT IN THE SAM HILL IS CAUSING THE CLICKS?...ticks me off a bit.
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#2250988 - 03/23/14 01:49 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
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This time of year in the northern US, loose action screws are a likely cause. If the key clicks on the return, you might have some missing hammer butt felts.
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#2250994 - 03/23/14 01:56 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
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It could also be the usual suspects, loose hammer heads and loose catchers, or bridle strap wires hitting something.
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#2250997 - 03/23/14 02:00 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
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Loose hammer flange screws, loose whippen flange screws, hammer heads unglued, hammer butt catcher unglued, bridle strap wires hitting adjacent back check wires, hammer grooves not quite aligned with strings, too much side play in keys...just to name a few.
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#2251082 - 03/23/14 05:37 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
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Loc: Western PA
Wow.....well......heh, thank you all for the input as usual, but....
All these things make me think one thing: $$$$$ input! This might be a costly repair to fix the clicking keys....
Well, I guess I'll have to sacrifice tone for clicks.
Also, here's an MP3 of the clicks. Maybe this'll help you guys out. If it's something that just needs tightened, I MAY be able to do it myself without much instruction. I'm very independent like that and I just LOVE to fix things.
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1952 Wurlitzer 2150 Spinet...'The boogie-nator' laugh
I'm OCD with pianos, spinets in particular.
Famous Studios That Have Used Spinets in the 50s, just for fun!
Sun Records
Specialty Records
Atlantic Records
Roulette Records
Stax Records
Imperial Records
Chess Records
Still counting.....

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#2251089 - 03/23/14 05:49 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
WurliFan Offline
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Registered: 04/26/13
Posts: 190
Loc: Western PA
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1952 Wurlitzer 2150 Spinet...'The boogie-nator' laugh
I'm OCD with pianos, spinets in particular.
Famous Studios That Have Used Spinets in the 50s, just for fun!
Sun Records
Specialty Records
Atlantic Records
Roulette Records
Stax Records
Imperial Records
Chess Records
Still counting.....

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#2251124 - 03/23/14 07:17 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
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Registered: 06/04/11
Posts: 688
Loc: England
Sounds like action screws loose. Has the heating been turned up lately ? I would check hammer flange, underlever flange, and if there are butt plates ... check those screws too.

It seems the most likely cause seeing as so many are rattling, and if so it's no big deal.
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#2251400 - 03/24/14 01:54 PM Re: Causes of clicks in drop actions without plastic elbows [Re: WurliFan]
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Registered: 10/07/11
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Loc: Lincoln, NE
Another thing to check is the backcheck coming back too far and touching the sticker as the hammer goes back into position. You'll be able to see it just looking down into the action. Sometimes taking up the lost motion will cure it or just readjusting the backcheck.
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