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#2251737 - 03/25/14 02:16 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: Roland The Beagle]
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Originally Posted By: Roland The Beagle
Originally Posted By: carey
OK - now I'm finally on track. grin Just listened to the Opus 15 - and was impressed by the "freshness" of the interpretations - something I always enjoy about the e-citals on PW.

I made it a point not to listen to any recordings of mine. I have no idea what it's "supposed" to sound like. I do wish I could get a faster middle section free of any mistakes, but I have been so insanely busy it's a wonder I learned that piece at all really!

That's the same way I felt about my two submissions. I really needed more time. Personally I have no problems listening to recordings of pieces I'm working on. As an amateur I know I'll never be able to play as well as the pros ha but I appreciate hearing different interpretive approaches to the same work. It helps me make my own choices.
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#2251769 - 03/25/14 06:15 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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My personal view on the performances. My first language is not English, so it's hard to find the right words to describe stuff.

Nocturne in B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 - doctor S
Nice recording. Good dynamics too, nice flow. Loved the ending of the
middle section to start with the main theme again.

Nocturne in E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 - ChopinLives81
Nice sound from that digital! Good balance between left and right throughout the piece, allthough I
would have liked to hear the beginning of the ending really pp (like, ohoh something gonna happen)
and then at the con forza part really lash out and have a bang there with the stretto octaves. Then at the ending
as ppp as possible.

Nocturne in F major, Op. 15 No. 1 - Ronald the Beagle
I think it's brave to take up a piece like this (actually all of them). You voiced the main theme really nicely.
I really got the "nocturne feeling" there. It contrasted well with the middle section.
The only thing I would say is that the middle section could be played a little faster.

Nocturne in F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 - Dame Myra
Wow the Doppio Movimento was really well played. Nice tempo! And nicely surrounded by the mysterious main theme.

Nocturne in G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 - FarmGirl
What a nice performance. I like the tempo you chose, I would like to hear the last part played with a bit more
dynamics. It fits all together nicely though, I like the performance.
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#2251794 - 03/25/14 08:15 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Partway through the Op. 15s at the moment. I love everyone's sense of drama! And personal connection to the music. Chopin invites that, don't you think?
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#2251813 - 03/25/14 09:01 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: hreichgott]
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Originally Posted By: hreichgott
Partway through the Op. 15s at the moment. I love everyone's sense of drama! And personal connection to the music. Chopin invites that, don't you think?


I think so too. I think that is one of the major reasons that most of us like/love Chopin. When you're busy with a piece, you grow to love it even if you started it because someone told you to.

I also have that with other composers of course, but most with Chopin. That is why I am always keep adding his stuff to my rep I guess. grin
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#2251816 - 03/25/14 09:17 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Nocturne in F major, Op. 15 No. 1- Ronald the Beagle : Very tender treatment of the A section. The middle section seems like a beast - have you ever tried it on an acoustic grand? I'm sure you'd be able to get a lot more "con fuoco" out of it , but you played it well, congrats!

Nocturne in F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 - Dame Myra : Beautiful playing! Something about the recording quality and the upright? piano makes it sound like a recording made a long time ago, which actually added to the overall effect. Brava!

Nocturne in G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 - FarmGirl : I like how you set up the hymn-like quality of the B section with the "languidness" of the A section. When you get to the B section it sounds very hopeful. I didn't notice your husband making noise wink
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#2251824 - 03/25/14 09:30 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene


Nocturne in F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 - Dame Myra : Beautiful playing! Something about the recording quality and the upright? piano makes it sound like a recording made a long time ago, which actually added to the overall effect. Brava!

Thank you so much; you are very kind. The piano was 1906 Steinway B.
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#2251826 - 03/25/14 09:32 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: chopinoholic]
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Nocturne in B-flat minor, Op. 9 No. 1 - doctor S
I was impressed by your performance. You handle the difficult poly-rhythmic parts very well. I also really liked the contrast between the main and the middle part of the piece.

Nocturne in E-flat major, Op. 9 No. 2 - ChopinLives81
The digital piano gave me an impression that you were actually playing the piece on a harp. You play very well with high precision and good control. Very nice to listen to.

Nocturne in F major, Op. 15 No. 1 - Ronald the Beagle
You really make the melody of the main part sing. Very beautiful to listen to. The "con fuoco" part is extremely difficult, and I can hear that you have done a really good job with it.

Nocturne in F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 - Dame Myra
Very impressive performance! Technically and musically flawless as far as I can judge. The sound quality and recording made it sound very "authentic".

Nocturne in G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 - FarmGirl
This nocturne isn't so often played, and I really enjoyed listening to your performance. I was particularly pleased with the transition between the first and the second ("choral") part. I think you succeeded in expressing the drama here.

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#2251828 - 03/25/14 09:39 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: DameMyra]
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Originally Posted By: DameMyra
Originally Posted By: Morodiene


Nocturne in F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 - Dame Myra : Beautiful playing! Something about the recording quality and the upright? piano makes it sound like a recording made a long time ago, which actually added to the overall effect. Brava!

Thank you so much; you are very kind. The piano was 1906 Steinway B.
Sorry, the recording made it tricky to tell, but still I like the effect of it. smile
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#2251830 - 03/25/14 09:48 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: Morodiene]
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Originally Posted By: Morodiene
Originally Posted By: DameMyra
Originally Posted By: Morodiene


Nocturne in F-sharp major, Op. 15 No. 2 - Dame Myra : Beautiful playing! Something about the recording quality and the upright? piano makes it sound like a recording made a long time ago, which actually added to the overall effect. Brava!

Thank you so much; you are very kind. The piano was 1906 Steinway B.
Sorry, the recording made it tricky to tell, but still I like the effect of it. smile


That's okay; it was a friend's piano. Very strange to play. Because of the size of the room (and because it was in an apartment/townhouse complex), the owner had the piano at half-stick! for the performance. I thought it sounded like an upright, too, when I received the recording.
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#2251840 - 03/25/14 10:41 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Thank you all for your kind words. My recording is the result of no less than about 50 attempts to get a good recording and a lot of hard work to get a good sound out of my digital. I'm glad all that hard work paid off.

To all my fellow recital participants, Wow! Impressive job so far from everyone. I've really enjoyed listening to the submissions so far. It really hits home on a more personal level to hear beautiful music coming from people just like the rest of us. Keep up the good work grin


Edited by ChopinLives81 (03/25/14 10:41 AM)
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#2251947 - 03/25/14 03:28 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: ChopinLives81]
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Originally Posted By: ChopinLives81
Thank you all for your kind words. My recording is the result of no less than about 50 attempts to get a good recording and a lot of hard work to get a good sound out of my digital. I'm glad all that hard work paid off.


Indeed it did.

but... 50!? Wow. I thought I had done a lot with a dozen or so spread out over a few days.

I had terrible trouble with sound this time around. First off, my piano at home went seriously out of tune over this dry and endless winter, so I didn't want to use it. (Oddly, it's now coming back into tune.) Then, when I began recording at a friend's place, I had terrible trouble with ambient sounds- furnace, outside traffic, birds in the windowsills, phone ringing- that my first half dozen takes or so were ruined. Then we experimented with a piezo-electric microphone that stuck to the bottom of the soundboard. This isolated the sounds, but I learned after recording that it had a kind of dynamic levels compensation built in (or that I hadn't shut off) that made the sound both a little too flat and a little too punchy at times. It also sounds a bit twangy. Alas, this is what I ended up with.

These are my caveats. :-)
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#2252017 - 03/25/14 06:44 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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At what interval will the different sets be posted?
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#2252026 - 03/25/14 07:20 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
OK - now I'm finally on track. grin Just listened to the Opus 15 - and was impressed by the "freshness" of the interpretations - something I always enjoy about the e-citals on PW.

Ronald, Myra, FarmGirl - Bravo !! thumb
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Carey, you are so super kind. Thank you for listening to the newer recording and encouraging me to submit this. I could not decide which one to submit until the last minute. I knew I put more feeling to it. Ironically, perhaps because of it, I was afraid to submit it. I hope it makes sense. In the end I realized that the older recording had too much noise and mistakes. I will ask your opinion much earlier next time. Thank you.
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#2252027 - 03/25/14 07:29 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: chopinoholic]
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Originally Posted By: chopinoholic

Nocturne in G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 - FarmGirl
What a nice performance. I like the tempo you chose, I would like to hear the last part played with a bit more
dynamics. It fits all together nicely though, I like the performance.


Wow, thanks. Yeah I agree about the dynamics in the end. I notice I hurried a bit in the end and did not play it out as I wanted. I would try to rerecord it after I get home.
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#2252044 - 03/25/14 08:08 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: Ganddalf]
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Originally Posted By: Ganddalf


Nocturne in G minor, Op. 15 No. 3 - FarmGirl
This nocturne isn't so often played, and I really enjoyed listening to your performance. I was particularly pleased with the transition between the first and the second ("choral") part. I think you succeeded in expressing the drama here.


Gandalf, thank you for your feedback. It means a lot to me. I consciously avoided to play more complex and well known pieces. It still was not easy for me but the simple beauty of the piece somehow carried me through to the end.
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#2252060 - 03/25/14 08:35 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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#2252068 - 03/25/14 08:54 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Op 27
I cannot listen to both pieces. It could be issues with my phone. Just wondering if anyone else can open and play
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#2252069 - 03/25/14 08:55 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Works fine for me.

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#2252071 - 03/25/14 09:01 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Wow, Mordiene. I loved that.
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#2252092 - 03/25/14 09:45 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: FarmGirl]
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It still was not easy for me but the simple beauty of the piece somehow carried me through to the end.


That's the most poetic thing I've heard all week. I have to agree on every level here. It really was a moving performance.
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#2252094 - 03/25/14 09:52 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Wow, I'm amazed and quite moved. I would >buy< these recordings.
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#2252095 - 03/25/14 09:55 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Holy Smokes Morodiene!! That was wonderful!
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#2252104 - 03/25/14 10:22 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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I always prefer PW recordings. I'm really looking forward to hearing the rest!

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#2252128 - 03/25/14 10:58 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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#2252129 - 03/25/14 10:59 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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(I promise there won't be much more Rubinstein. It's for continuity purposes, for those who wish to listen to the nocturnes consecutively. I remember the last recital did this so I thought it would be appropriate.)

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#2252130 - 03/25/14 11:01 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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No, no, not a problem. I'm liking this Rubinstein guy.
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#2252139 - 03/25/14 11:17 PM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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I'm just so blissed out by everybody's submissions at this point! What a great evening. Thanks, everybody!

One particular example (as it just went by as I'm typing this): 2m30s to 2m33s in Chopinoholic's submission. Goooorrrrrgeous.


Edited by TwoSnowflakes (03/25/14 11:19 PM)
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#2252192 - 03/26/14 01:47 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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The Opus 27 - WOW !!!!!!!!

Morodiene - This is certainly the best I can recall having heard you play. Absolutely beautiful !!

Choopinholic - You gave a sensitive and passionate rendition of an horrendously difficult piece. Bravo !!
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#2252220 - 03/26/14 05:54 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: carey]
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Originally Posted By: TwoSnowflakes
I'm just so blissed out by everybody's submissions at this point! What a great evening. Thanks, everybody!

One particular example (as it just went by as I'm typing this): 2m30s to 2m33s in Chopinoholic's submission. Goooorrrrrgeous.

Originally Posted By: carey
The Opus 27 - WOW !!!!!!!!

Morodiene - This is certainly the best I can recall having heard you play. Absolutely beautiful !!

Choopinholic - You gave a sensitive and passionate rendition of an horrendously difficult piece. Bravo !!


Thanks guys. It means a lot hearing this.
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#2252221 - 03/26/14 05:55 AM Re: 2014 Chopin nocturnes and waltzes recital [Re: JoelW]
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Nocturne in C-sharp minor, Op. 27 No. 1 - Morodiene
Omg, what a nice dark piece you put together. I listened to it a couple of times and the despair in the main theme is really well carried out.
Then the really hard middle part was nicely built to that e octave followed by the octave passage.
I loved it smile

Nocturne in D-flat major, Op. 27 No. 2 - chopinoholic
Well, what about those wrong notes you played? Didn't you have a better recording of this piece?

Nocturne in B major, Op. 32 No. 1 - Brad Hoehne
Nicely played, but the recording is somewhat harsh. You explained it yourself a couple of posts above and it looks to me that some feature is turned on on the recording device to level out the soft and the louder parts.
You have created your own interpretation of the piece and it certainly has the flow. Well done.
( I don't have the score with me now, but the staccato chords in the end, don't they have pedal markings?)

Nocturne in A-flat major, Op. 32 No. 2 - dynamobt
I love this nocturne. It has such a nice swing, like it wants to go away, running! You played it very pretty. I heard the middle section often bashed away and I think you played it well under control. Thank you for the submission.
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