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#2253874 - 03/29/14 10:26 AM Digital piano "hissing"
Nordomus Offline
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Recently I bought my first digital piano- Roland hp 506. Everything is great except small "hissing" sound which can be heard when playing quietly or not playing at all. It's not loud but it's there. Is that normal? Seller told be it's normal but internet says it's not entirely normal. I haven't conacted Roland yet, will do that at monday. In the meantime I figured I could ask here smile

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#2253885 - 03/29/14 11:36 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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Not normal. If the seller won't sort it out, and you can still return the item (e.g. under distance selling regulations), you should return it and try a different seller. You also have recourse with your credit card company (so long as you paid on credit card) if the item is faulty and the seller won't rectify it.

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#2253890 - 03/29/14 12:02 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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Are you using headphones, internal speakers (built into the keyboard) or external speakers? Or do you hear the hissing with all of the above?

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#2253903 - 03/29/14 12:57 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Joe Garfield]
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All of the above, I mean build in speakers and headphones.
Also I paid in cash and bought it directlly in shop so few of return options are not avaible for me but I have warranty so there should be no problem with return/replacement, but I still don't know for sure if this is real problem or just digital thing.


Edited by Nordomus (03/29/14 01:05 PM)

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#2253909 - 03/29/14 01:10 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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Do you have it hooked up near any other electronic equipment?
Is it on a power bar that shares with anything else?

Try moving it to a different location in your home, further away from anything electronic and on its own power circuit. Maybe something is interfering with it.

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#2253910 - 03/29/14 01:12 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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This would include moving any PDAs/Phones/Tablets you might have near or on you, further away... try moving it about 2 meters or so.

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#2253914 - 03/29/14 01:20 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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I'll try moving it to another room tomorrow I think, would be hard to do it alone. Putting phone far away didn't work, I also turned off router, no result eighter.

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#2253921 - 03/29/14 02:14 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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hmmmmmmmmm.......
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#2253923 - 03/29/14 02:19 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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Good one smile Stupid snake smile

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#2254057 - 03/29/14 09:37 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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Hello,
Same problem with my HP-507. The piano makes a hisss. Not loud but present and very annoying when you are in a quiet environement. If it is same as mine, the hiss comes from the speakers. It disappear when you plug something in the headphones out, but then, the headphones out is noisy...
I contacted the store where I bought it, they will ask to Roland service to have an explanation. I hope to find a solution, but not sure....
If Roland consider this as "normal", I don't know what to do, I can not imagine that they have accepted to make noisy digital pianos from conception...


Edited by stamkorg (03/29/14 09:40 PM)

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#2254130 - 03/30/14 03:23 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: stamkorg]
Nordomus Offline
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So i gues it's the same thing... Shame. I gues not everyone hears it.

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#2254148 - 03/30/14 06:51 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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It's thermal noise. Good amplifiers keep the noise below audible levels.
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#2254159 - 03/30/14 07:26 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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This noise is also emitted by my HP302 - I've just experimented with all external connections taken out. It is something similar to white noise, though very slightly nuanced perhaps by digital artifacts. But it is smooth.

I could hear it only by putting my ear next to one of the internal DP speakers. I have never heard it before (after having had the DP for over two years), and actually considered the piano silent in terms of background noise.

The same experiment (isolating from input sources and all other non-essential connections) my Yamaha HS7 monitors do the same - there is audible background noise (including 'whitish' noise and even mains hum) at a very low level.

Well, the HS7s are considered semi-pro mixing monitors, and are used in commercial studios frequently, as nearfield monitors.

So I'd consider this noise to be normal.


Edited by toddy (03/30/14 07:27 AM)
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#2254162 - 03/30/14 07:41 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: toddy]
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Originally Posted By: toddy
This noise is also emitted by my HP302 - I've just experimented with all external connections taken out. It is something similar to white noise, though very slightly nuanced perhaps by digital artifacts. But it is smooth.

I could hear it only by putting my ear next to one of the internal DP speakers. I have never heard it before (after having had the DP for over two years), and actually considered the piano silent in terms of background noise.

The same experiment (isolating from input sources and all other non-essential connections) my Yamaha HS7 monitors do the same - there is audible background noise (including 'whitish' noise and even mains hum) at a very low level.

Well, the HS7s are considered semi-pro mixing monitors, and are used in commercial studios frequently, as nearfield monitors.

So I'd consider this noise to be normal.


The fact is that in my case it is audible from the pianist's place. Once again, not loud but clearly perceptible.

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#2254163 - 03/30/14 07:44 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: PianistOne111]
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Originally Posted By: PianistOne111
It's thermal noise. Good amplifiers keep the noise below audible levels.


Does that mean that there is a solution to avoid that noise, even if that suppose to change the amplifier?

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#2254166 - 03/30/14 07:55 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: stamkorg]
toddy Offline
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Originally Posted By: stamkorg

The fact is that in my case it is audible from the pianist's place. Once again, not loud but clearly perceptible.


Perhaps, though, you have very acute hearing. You will certainly have better hearing than me, since I have permanent tinnitus which is 'louder' than this sort of background noise from any reasonably well designed amplifier, except if I 'try' to hear it.
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Mics: SP B1 & MXL V67g/ Alesis MicTube Preamp/ Xenyx302/ Yamaha HS7s .

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#2254216 - 03/30/14 11:35 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: PianistOne111]
Nordomus Offline
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Originally Posted By: PianistOne111
It's thermal noise. Good amplifiers keep the noise below audible levels.

So I've heard today but examples above show that it's not that simple in digital piano, I gues it's normal after all, I'm gonna call Roland tomorrow and check some more digital pianos in stores with that issue in mind just to be sure.


Edited by Nordomus (03/30/14 11:36 AM)

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#2254270 - 03/30/14 02:13 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: toddy]
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Originally Posted By: toddy
Originally Posted By: stamkorg

The fact is that in my case it is audible from the pianist's place. Once again, not loud but clearly perceptible.


Perhaps, though, you have very acute hearing. You will certainly have better hearing than me, since I have permanent tinnitus which is 'louder' than this sort of background noise from any reasonably well designed amplifier, except if I 'try' to hear it.


yes, you are probably right. We all have our own sensitivity with these things.

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#2254301 - 03/30/14 03:11 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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I don't think it's normal except maybe for the HP302. 3-4 years ago I was considering a 302 but pulled out specifically because of the audible hum through the speakers. I also looked at a 305 and 307, the noise was there but much less. I ended up with a Kawai CN33, no amplifier noise, but slight transformer hum. I put up with that as it was less than from my TV, 5:1, PVR, etc.

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#2254317 - 03/30/14 03:35 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
toddy Offline
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spannishbuddha saysI don't think it's normal except maybe for the HP302. 3-4 years ago I was considering a 302 but pulled out specifically because of the audible hum through the speakers. I also looked at a 305 and 307, the noise was there but much less. I ended up with a Kawai CN33, no amplifier noise, but slight transformer hum.

But there is no hum at all from my HP302 - there is very slight hiss - as I say, I only heard it by putting my ear over one of the speakers.

The hum I mentioned above comes from the Yamaha HS7 which is supposed to be a reference standard monitor.

Neither of these things bother me at all - as I say, I had to isolate the equipment, work in absolute silence and listen very hard to hear these background noises at all.
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#2254637 - 03/31/14 02:53 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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No noise on my HP-505.

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#2255190 - 04/01/14 07:52 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Marco M]
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So I spoke with Roland and what I learned is this, there will always be "hissing" but the problem with hp 505,506,507,508 is their speaker possitioning. So the best thing about Roland is also the worst. I mean this speaker system is one of the things what makes it sound so good so... I gues I have to live with it, that's it, you get awesome sound and background noise or you get worse sound and less background noise OR you pay much more and get much better piano or grand piano build from much better components...

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#2255207 - 04/01/14 08:26 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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^ well that sounds like BS (edit: what you're being told, not your retelling smile ). I tried several of these HPs in 3 different shops and never noticed any hissing. And no other console-type digital piano hisses noticeably, so the idea that it's inevitable is wrong. You can go to a shop where they have another example for you to try and check that it doesn't have the same problem if you want. Roland need to at least get a technician to come and have a look at it.


Edited by lolatu (04/01/14 10:37 AM)

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#2255237 - 04/01/14 09:36 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: lolatu]
Nordomus Offline
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Well I'm gonna go to check some digitals again this week but in shop you won't hear it(without putting your ear near case)because of noise in the shop itself. But as I said I'm gonna confirm it myself once and for all and not only for Roland, I'm gonna try some kawai and yamaha as well if I'll be able to. I don't know what to believe anymore smile

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#2255238 - 04/01/14 09:38 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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mmm - it deosn't sound like bull [censored] to me (at least not pure bull [censored]) because if you listen directly in front of one of the speakers in a silent room, you can hear a faint very hiss from the DP's speakers. However, because they're positioned under the piano, you wouldn't normally hear this at all.

The HP5** series has these new 'nearfield speakers'. It is possible these are forward facing, and that the pianist is more liable to hear even the slightest sound from them. And once noticed, always present. I'm not saying this is the case, but it is a possibility, in which case, Roland's excuse sounds reasonable.
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#2255292 - 04/01/14 11:34 AM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: Nordomus]
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Perhaps our resident Roland rep could make comment.

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#2255318 - 04/01/14 12:43 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: GLR]
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You have one of those? Cool smile

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#2255319 - 04/01/14 12:44 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: GLR]
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I have been contacted by a guy from Roland's service. They will come to see and hear on april 18th. I will keep you informed...

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#2255322 - 04/01/14 12:49 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: GLR]
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Originally Posted By: GLR
Perhaps our resident Roland rep could make comment.


Without standing in front of that exact piano in it's environment, no I will not comment.
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#2255329 - 04/01/14 01:04 PM Re: Digital piano "hissing" [Re: stamkorg]
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Originally Posted By: stamkorg
I have been contacted by a guy from Roland's service. They will come to see and hear on april 18th. I will keep you informed...


So there is no problem with getting service from Roland free of charge?

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