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#2255951 - 04/02/14 02:18 PM My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection!
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This is my Bluthner style 8. The restoration is complete, and I've been sent pictures by the workshop. I'm going down tomorrow to play it for the first time. The piano was owned by Birmingham Conservatoire who had left it to fall to bits in a practice room. It was neglected for decades and they were going to throw it out, and it just so happens when the restoration firm went to view a Steinway for rebuilding, they spotted this piano and decided to rescue it, and now it's mine! I don't have the delivery date fixed yet but it should be with me in the next month or so.

This is what was done to it:

Acoustic:
New soundboard, New pinblock, frame regilded, restrung, refelted.

Action
New roller action and keyboard installed, back action reconditioned, new damper felts installed

Casework:
New top lid made (the original was missing), New candleboards made for the music desk. Re-finished in satin black. I didn't want polyester and couldn't afford french polish.






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#2255954 - 04/02/14 02:26 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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It Is Spectacular !!!

I have no doubt you will fall in love and play the devil out of it.

Congratulations !!!

(Who did that beautiful rebuild?)
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#2255957 - 04/02/14 02:32 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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OMG

If it sounds half as good as it looks, you have really got something there!

Enjoy it!

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#2255967 - 04/02/14 02:48 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Wow! Great looking instrument, both inside and out! One to die for. Love to hear what it sounds like.

Rich


Edited by Rich D. (04/02/14 02:49 PM)
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#2255968 - 04/02/14 02:48 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Wow, simply stunning... Congratulations. Please post a recording when you can.

Were you tempted to get a sostenuto fitted, or don't you ever use one?

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#2255969 - 04/02/14 02:49 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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I can't wait to get my hands on it and get it home. The work was done by Paul and Colin Leverett in the UK. They do a lot of rebuilding work for various firms, are Bluthner experts since they both trained with the firm when Bluthner still had workshops here.

They also rebuilt Steinway, Yamaha and Grotrian concert grands for venues in Portugal and rebuilt three pianos fir Artur Pizarro. Colin Rebuilt a Bluthner for Michal Hambourg who was the daughter of Mark Hambourg, and they did a Bechstein grand for Fou T'song so their work is highly recommended.

Is that advertising? Edit the post if I've gone too far there, I don't work for them.

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#2255975 - 04/02/14 02:54 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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She's beautiful, Joe! Congratulations!

You might have told us about this piano before, but I can't find the thread. What year is she? How long is she? Does it have the "Bluthner Patent Action", a modern Renner wooden action, or a WNG composite action?

By the way, what is a "candleboard"? And what is "French Polish"? I have a vague idea of what these terms are, but better safe than sorry.

Now all we need is to get a photo of you dressed up as Rachmaninov, seated in front of this beauty.

P.S. - You've just GOTTA post an audio clip of you playing her. It's abou time we get to hear what the "Bluthner Golden Tone" actually sounds like.

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#2255980 - 04/02/14 03:00 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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I want to marry your piano.
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#2255982 - 04/02/14 03:04 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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I almost fainted when I saw pictures of the plate.

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#2255983 - 04/02/14 03:06 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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WOW!! When I find a piano this beautiful I might be able to convince my wife to buy a grand wink
Seriously, it looks fantastic.
Whenever you take delivery don't forget to post a recording!
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#2255987 - 04/02/14 03:10 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: Almaviva]
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Originally Posted By: Almaviva
By the way, what is a "candleboard"? And what is "French Polish"? I have a vague idea of what these terms are, but better safe than sorry.

A "candleboard" is often called the music desk/rack. The flat areas on either side of the "music stand" are for the placement of candlesticks or candelabra.

"French Polish" is a specific finishing technique more common in Europe than in this part of the world. Google is your best bet if you want to learn more about it.
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#2255992 - 04/02/14 03:20 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Wow! Looks to be about the same era as Debussy's piano. Enjoy!
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#2255993 - 04/02/14 03:21 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Hi Almaviva, I opted to have the patent action switched to a modern roller action, standard Wood parts. I opted for the switch because I perform a lot so I wanted a standard type action. My other Bluthner style 8 will be rebuilt with the original patent action and keys because frankly I love the patent action but because it is shallower and lighter than a standard action and has no aftertouch (and is faster when correctly regulated) it can give you a false sense of security in a way

French polishing us basically building up the colours in layers and then hand rubbing. It's very time consuming and expensive and my primary concern in the instrument. It looks great with the finish it has though

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#2255995 - 04/02/14 03:24 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Originally Posted By: joe80
My other Bluthner style 8

You are kidding right???
LOL..
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#2256010 - 04/02/14 03:47 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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No I have another that I've had for 11 years. It's a 1912 model. The one above is 1894

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#2256029 - 04/02/14 04:06 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Joe

I am available for adoption.

I don't eat much.

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#2256055 - 04/02/14 05:20 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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That is a breathtakingly beautiful piano.

Larry.

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#2256058 - 04/02/14 05:27 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Wow! My jaw just hit the floor.
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#2256082 - 04/02/14 06:01 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Well, time to gouge my eyes out so I don't feel disappointed when I look at other pianos...

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#2256137 - 04/02/14 08:54 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Stunning plate!!! I have a similar project on the go right now. Not with a plate as yours. frown
1929 7'8" As of right now it has plain legs, lyre & music desk but our client is having us install similar legs as yours, same music desk and lyre. Parts coming from Europe.

Enjoy your fantasic piano!!!!
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#2256150 - 04/02/14 09:41 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Wow, that may be the most beautiful piano I've ever seen! Absolutely gorgeous. Congratulations!

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#2256171 - 04/02/14 11:08 PM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Stunningly gorgeous!! congrats and enjoy playing this beauty! (They sure don't make plates like that any more do they?)

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#2256178 - 04/03/14 12:08 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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That piano makes me ache, it's so beautiful...
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#2256183 - 04/03/14 12:33 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: sophial]
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Originally Posted By: sophial
Stunningly gorgeous!! congrats and enjoy playing this beauty! (They sure don't make plates like that any more do they?)


Actually they do. $$$$$
Quite fancy, special order, but not as fancy as the one in this thread.
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#2256184 - 04/03/14 12:42 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I looked at the pictures. Simply stunning! I hope the sound is glorious!

Good luck.
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#2256189 - 04/03/14 01:24 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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The piano is absolutely, overwhelmingly beautiful. I am glad it has gone to a good home.

One point that struck me in the original post is the sentence: " It was neglected for decades and they were going to throw it out". Why can't I find a core like that which somebody is going to throw out?
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#2256204 - 04/03/14 04:00 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Yes, they do still make at least one version of the jubilee plate. Funny thing is that it doesn't add any value to the core piano.

Philip this piano was traded in at the factory - it was that when the Leveretts went to inspect a Steinway for rebuilding, they were asked if they could dispose of the Bluthner as well.

This piano actually needed so much work in comparison to some others - it even needed some capping done on the top part of the case. Some core pianos are rejected by the factory and they tend to find themselves in auctions - that's a financial decision on the part of the factory. If it's a customer's rebuild then they'll usually accept any job but if it's one that they source for selling they'll choose carefully - it's the labour costs you see.

I know that the Leveretts know which cores are worth rebuilding and which ones to let go of, and they decided that this particular piano should be saved. Also it comes with the usual five year warranty which increases confidence in the product.

What I'm saying is, if you go for a core piano, make sure you have someone who knows what they are doing when buying it.

My shortlist for a replacement to the brodmann came down to a Yamaha C6, a kawai rx7 or a shigeru sk6, and I was getting close to biting the bullet on the kawai when this came up for sale. Don't get me wrong I think Yamaha and kawai are excellent, but to me, a Bluthner is in another league and a 6'3 rebuilt Bluthner is, to my ear and hand anyway, superior to the 7' and 7'6 kawai or Yamaha. Its also a bit easier to house! OK so it doesn't have sostenuto but I've used that about three times in twenty years...

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#2256214 - 04/03/14 05:11 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Very cool you were in the right place at the right time with the right contacts.
I especially love the ornate music stand and the signature blue.

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#2256216 - 04/03/14 05:36 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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Gorgeous piano. It's screaming: Play me!
Congratulations. I'm jealous..


Edited by chopinoholic (04/03/14 05:38 AM)
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#2256226 - 04/03/14 06:41 AM Re: My "new" Bluthner is ready for collection! [Re: joe80]
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I went for a Bechstein, rather than a Bluthner that was on offer. I wish I had got both....
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