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#2256913 - 04/04/14 08:04 PM MM#
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so using the metronome, what would you say is the appropriate beats per minute number for Fur Elise? Poco Moto just isn't clear enough for me. Thanks!

(I'm not saying I could play it that fast, but it would be a helpful reference!)
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#2256930 - 04/04/14 08:40 PM Re: MM# [Re: manyhands]
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112? probably about the right ballpark.
Whatever you choose, keep all the sections the same tempo smile (other than a little rit. or something here or there)
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#2256937 - 04/04/14 09:16 PM Re: MM# [Re: hreichgott]
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My pocket manual shows "moto" (with motion) at the Allegro mark. So using "poco" (little), I'd say use the lowest Allegro mark of 120 at the least. I do have a recording by Van Cliburn and I am always surprised at his faster tempo (faster than what most people currently play).

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#2256946 - 04/04/14 09:49 PM Re: MM# [Re: manyhands]
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I prefer it played at a much slower tempo, and not just because it's all I'm capable of!
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#2256959 - 04/04/14 10:45 PM Re: MM# [Re: manyhands]
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Good tempo can change for different situations and with many things like, different pianos,different rooms, or what you want that day for your own personal needs.

It is interesting to measure when an exciting tempo is found.
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#2256969 - 04/04/14 11:19 PM Re: MM# [Re: manyhands]
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About 52.
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#2256987 - 04/05/14 01:05 AM Re: MM# [Re: manyhands]
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If you weren't confused enough, permit me to link you this:

Beethoven tempos
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#2257008 - 04/05/14 03:06 AM Re: MM# [Re: manyhands]
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Depends on the edition and the time signature. I've seen this piece published in different formats..
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#2257338 - 04/05/14 07:28 PM Re: MM# [Re: Derulux]
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Originally Posted By: Derulux
Depends on the edition and the time signature. I've seen this piece published in different formats..


Yup, the manuscript is lost which doesn't help with authenticity. There is a dispute over a couple of notes. I've played both ways and both work so it's not a big deal.

Timing, I prefer this a tad on the slower side too but agree that a set tempo indication is seldom a good thing because the tempo will depend on the piano, the mood, the environment and whether you had chicken vindaloo for lunch.
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#2257416 - 04/05/14 11:02 PM Re: MM# [Re: Andy Platt]
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Originally Posted By: Andy Platt
...Timing, ...because the tempo will depend on ... whether you had chicken vindaloo for lunch.


Brilliant! Brilliant! We're reaching new heights of brilliance everyday!
Can I put that in my signature?
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