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Hey,

Do anybody have analyse of Chopin third sonata or know where can I find it?

Piano Sonata No.3, Op.58 (Chopin, Frédéric) has piano sonata no. 3 both recordings and scores. Right up top is the original one by chopin and below that is the 1st edition, both of those are in manuscript so you might not understand either because it is hard to read original manuscript. It should be easy for you to understand the one below the 1st edition which is part of a catalogue known as Friedrich Chopin's Werke just like how when I was talking about that K 545 in the hardest piano piece ever written thread I had a link to the PDF and it said Sonatae no. 15 fur das Pianoforte which is german for Piano Sonata no. 15 and so Mozart's 15th sonata in F and 16th sonata in C often get confused when you look at the catalogue Wolfgang Amadeus Mozarts Werke.

None of that has anything to do with the OP's question.

He was asking for Piano Sonata no. 3 by chopin and So I gave him the link to where it is on IMSLP.

He wasn't. He was asking for an analysis of it.

You have got to be the most useless troll on these forums. You never offer any real value to any discussion. Every one of your comments is a short, pompous slap or snipe. It's as if you're here to fuel your obvious superiority complex. Pathetic.


Now here's an example of a post with value.

I will refrain from pointing out the obvious irony here and request that you read my post above. caters' post was not helpful because it did not address the question, and went off on a tangent.

Still he can analyze it himself as he clearly states with the "or know where I can find it"

I helped him by giving the link to what he wanted analyzed because I deduced from the second statement that he can analyze things.

I assumed that "it" was the analysis, not the score. Clearly English is not the OP's first language and the misplaced modifier is more likely than the other interpretation.

Oh lord, you are so full of yourself. It's so obvious to anyone that reads your posts. You must be a very sad, lonely man to troll forums and contribute nothing of value with ~6200 posts.

Even here, it's obvious that caters is providing value to the OP, and you're just wasting space with countless, meaningless, sniping posts.

@sprehod
Wikipedia may have an analysis.

Well I assumed that he can analyze things and that "it" was referring to the sonata itself not the analysis. Besides analysis is highly opinionated because some sad parts other people think aren't and so analysis is not accurate, score is.

Please continue to vent; I will get my popcorn.


I was assuming that if he wants an analysis he already possesses the score. Perhaps you're right, we'll see if he replies.

Don't fight. Thank you for your help, but I already have score. I need score with analyse - sonata's form etc.

http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-11152012-112107/unrestricted/mitchelldiss.pdf

Happy, Atrys?

Poly's getting bashed unfairly here.
He was right.

+ 1

OP asked for an analysis or where to find one -- NOT the piece itself. I'm slightly puzzled as to why Atrys reacted that way. If he would have just heard Poly out...

Is this another case of someone wanting help with homework?

+1.

And he's been unfairly bashed in many other threads too. Like stores, Poly doesn't mince words or couch them in a lot of warm and fuzzy. That's who he is. It would be nice if everyone could learn to accept the variety of writing styles on this forum, and simply focus on the content of what's being said, rather than attributing malicious motives to the writer.

In this case, Poly correctly interpreted the OP's intent and was trying to clarify that for others. IMHO, that type of post does contribute to the discussion and does have "value". (This post, on the other hand, not so much. )

Thanks Polyphonist.

Janus K.Sachs, I don't understand your way of thinking. Why then we have books and other stuff if not for reading them and learn new things? Is it something wrong if I read someone's analyse? I guess it was written to be read.

What's the assignment? What are you looking for? What type of analysis do you want to read? A complete Roman numeral analysis? A sectional breakdown of each movement (thematic/motivic groups, transitions, etc.)? Large scale key structure/progression through all movements? Formal structures used in each movement and how they deviate from norms? Shenkerian Ursatz/linear progressions? Motivic connections across movements? Or are you simply looking for an angle/thesis?