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#2261766 - 04/14/14 08:43 PM Re: Any lefties? [Re: TwoSnowflakes]
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Originally Posted By: TwoSnowflakes
I would venture to guess that anybody who is left handed has had extensive experience using their right hand anyway. It's impossible not to in a right-handed world. There may be dexterity issues with the right hand but a left handed person's non-dominant hand generally has been put to more mixed use than a right handed person's non-dominant hand.[...]


Too true, TwoSnowflakes, too true. However, I want to interject that, while I am "right-handed," I am a left-handed coffee pourer. That is because, early in our relationship, back in the days when coffee was still perc'd in a stainless steel pot, my dear Lisa made the coffee and naturally oriented the handle for herself, left. I, not quite awake and a little bleary eyed, went for the pot with my right. Lesson learned. It's a left-handed coffee pot and always will be in our household.

Another non-sequitur: My dad told me that in one of his choir conducting classes, one of the assignments was to use one's non-dominant hand for *everything* for one week--opening doors, opening cans, writing, eating, shaving--and leave one's dominant hand at one's side or behind one's back as much as possible.

And, while I remain off-topic as a rightie (sorry Joel), I love to play the music of Bach and Handel, with the intricate interplay between the left and right hands. I can actually execute *some* trills better with my LH than with my R crazy (not that they are all that well-executed with either hand). grin

Oh--also off-topic--

Left-handed piano
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#2261844 - 04/15/14 12:00 AM Re: Any lefties? [Re: JoelW]
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The left-handed piano just hurts my brain.

The idea of remapping my brain to make a left-handed piano work has about as much appeal as grabbing your percolator from the right-handed side.
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#2263593 - 04/18/14 03:10 PM Re: Any lefties? [Re: JoelW]
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Interesting thread. It would never have occurred to me that I might be at a disadvantage being a lefty pianist, since within reasonably parameters, both hands are operating in a similar fashion.

However, playing a right handed banjo was impossible for me and I had to acquire a left handed instrument.

Thal
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#2264918 - 04/21/14 11:07 AM Re: Any lefties? [Re: JoelW]
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I'm strongly left-handed according to a number of skills assessments (i.e. a series of "which hand do you perform x with" tests) and I do notice a few problems as a result.

http://lefthanded.cdf-design.com/test/html_test.php

Most notably, my right hand seems to have a little less "natural" velocity. For instance, despite not having practiced trills much with my left hand, my left hand trills are cleaner and have more endurance than those performed with my right. I tend to find my left hand more assuredly placed on the center of notes than my right. Finally, learning the left hand part of just about any piece (even left-hand dominated ones like the second Chopin op 28 prelude) seems relatively quicker than learning the right.

I'm currently working on the Rachmaninof Prelude Op 32 #12. On the fourth beat of Measure 16 there is a quickly descending and widely spaced (an octave + a sixth) four note arpeggiation which, by the looks of it would be very difficult to play. It's in the left hand. I was able to get this "under my fingers" in relatively short order. It's now stable and feels secure. On the other hand, I had massive trouble with the roll in the fourth beat of measure 37 and, even after a lot of practice, never really ended up getting it. I ended up playing it by bringing the left hand over the right to hit the high D# and adding a bit of Rubato to make up for the loss of time involved in this.

Obviously this is a bit of an apples and oranges situation, but it's a fairly common occurrence with me. Stuff in the left hand is "natural" whereas stuff in the right needs work to master.

Alas, piano music is dominated by right hand virtuosity- as that is where the melody and, importantly, its ornamentation are.

These things are, of course, a matter of degree. Over time, experience makes up for what feels like a lack of natural ability. There are certain things I am better at with the right hand- scales, for instance- but I think this is mainly because the repertoire emphasizes them.


Edited by Brad Hoehne (04/21/14 11:32 AM)
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#2264925 - 04/21/14 11:27 AM Re: Any lefties? [Re: JoelW]
Brad Hoehne Offline
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Re: left handed piano.

I think had I started on a left handed piano, I would have performed very well on it. However, re-mapping ones brain after one has learned the layout of a normal piano would be very awkward- like learning a DVORAK keyboard after growing up on a QWERTY.
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Chopin Nocturne op 37 #2
Playing by ear and "filling out" pop tunes

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#2265020 - 04/21/14 05:11 PM Re: Any lefties? [Re: JoelW]
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I trill a million times better with my right than my left, but considering the left seems to have it all over the right in terms of fluidity and accuracy, I wonder if it's just because the left never had to do much trilling and any time the left trills, it just feels awkward and then before I have to do it very much, I'm on to something else anyway. Nothing I've worked on for an extended period of time has a left hand trill. Several smaller supporting study pieces have, but I'm on and off them in a week or two. I wonder whether it would get better at trilling if I just gave it the opportunity to do so.
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Chopin, Fantaisie-Impromptu Op. post. 66
Tchaikovsky, Mars: Chante de l'alouette Op. 37a No. 3

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#2265021 - 04/21/14 05:14 PM Re: Any lefties? [Re: Brad Hoehne]
TwoSnowflakes Offline
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Originally Posted By: Brad Hoehne
I'm strongly left-handed according to a number of skills assessments (i.e. a series of "which hand do you perform x with" tests) and I do notice a few problems as a result.

http://lefthanded.cdf-design.com/test/html_test.php



I came up utterly ambidextrous. I guess, though, I didn't need an online test to tell me that!
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