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#2262783 - 04/16/14 08:30 PM Chopin etude op.10 no.1
trigalg693 Offline
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Hi everyone,
I haven't been on here in a while, but I thought I'd share this. Recorded straight off my FP-7F, I haven't figured out why there's so much electrical noise but oh well.

https://soundcloud.com/andrew-qian-2/chopin-etude-in-c-major-op-10

Oh and sorry about the flubbed notes and the obviously slowly increasing tempo.

For people who remember me, I will try to post some Godowsky/Chopin etudes soon, maybe a bit more Chopin later.


Edited by trigalg693 (04/16/14 08:33 PM)

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#2270753 - 05/03/14 10:46 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Bumping a worthier post.
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#2271436 - 05/05/14 01:26 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Nice job!

Any tips on how to tackle this beast? The key to mastering this etude still eludes me.
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#2271492 - 05/05/14 03:47 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: Vid]
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Originally Posted By: Vid
Nice job!

Any tips on how to tackle this beast? The key to mastering this etude still eludes me.

SLOW practice with exaggerated arm movements. And different rhythms. The key is the wrist and arm movement.
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5) Grieg Concerto, Op. 16
6) Schubert Impromptu Op. 90 no. 3
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#2271495 - 05/05/14 03:56 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Good job! Bravo!

But, in an etude like this there is no excuse for flubbed notes. In fact, that is the point. There should be NO flubbed notes. We all can play it with flubbed notes.

Nevertheless, you have a good technique, but if you want yourself to have a place apart from the masses, better record a non flubbed version.
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#2271497 - 05/05/14 03:58 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: Hakki]
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Originally Posted By: Hakki
Good job! Bravo!

But, in an etude like this there is no excuse for flubbed notes. In fact, that is the point. There should be NO flubbed notes.

Cortot misses loads of notes. What do you think of him?
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5) Grieg Concerto, Op. 16
6) Schubert Impromptu Op. 90 no. 3
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#2271498 - 05/05/14 03:59 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Your piano's upper register needs tuning.
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#2271499 - 05/05/14 03:59 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: pianorigami]
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Originally Posted By: pianorigami
Originally Posted By: Hakki
Good job! Bravo!

But, in an etude like this there is no excuse for flubbed notes. In fact, that is the point. There should be NO flubbed notes.

Cortot misses loads of notes. What do you think of him?

He must be no good. Just one among the "masses."
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#2271649 - 05/05/14 10:40 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: pianorigami
Originally Posted By: Hakki
Good job! Bravo!

But, in an etude like this there is no excuse for flubbed notes. In fact, that is the point. There should be NO flubbed notes.

Cortot misses loads of notes. What do you think of him?

He must be no good. Just one among the "masses."

Well? Hakki? Do you have a response? I'm genuinely curious. smirk
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5) Grieg Concerto, Op. 16
6) Schubert Impromptu Op. 90 no. 3
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#2271662 - 05/05/14 11:39 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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There are many other things that make Cortot Cortot.
Don't compare apples to oranges.
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#2271684 - 05/06/14 12:51 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: Hakki]
pianorigami Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hakki
There are many other things that make Cortot Cortot.
Don't compare apples to oranges.

Well all I'm saying is that I don't think every single note is absolutely key in separating you from being an amateur and an artist.
The connection is, as well as passion. Do you agree?
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5) Grieg Concerto, Op. 16
6) Schubert Impromptu Op. 90 no. 3
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#2271687 - 05/06/14 12:59 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Of course I agree.
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#2271694 - 05/06/14 01:56 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: Hakki]
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Originally Posted By: Hakki
Of course I agree.

Well that just confuses me more shocked
I just want to be clear: I respect you and your recordings! I am just curious whether or not you really defend what you said to the original poster.
I am also working on this etude and am working very hard to eliminate slips smile
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5) Grieg Concerto, Op. 16
6) Schubert Impromptu Op. 90 no. 3
7) Debussy Images, Book I

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#2271703 - 05/06/14 02:42 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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No need to worry.
Just practice slowly and try to play preferably with no flubbed notes each time. You know people look for flubbed notes when listening to this etude. And if you manage to have none you might impress your audience. Good luck in your efforts.
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#2279333 - 05/21/14 05:12 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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No flubbed notes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_i1FHP-B0w

As you requested Hakki lol. I also fixed the noise, turned out my cheapo XLR cables had different wiring (hot wire on pin 2 vs 1) and my TRS adapters were consistent but used the opposite pin for ground, so the sound was mostly EM interference.


Edited by trigalg693 (05/21/14 05:14 PM)

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#2279364 - 05/21/14 06:37 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Originally Posted By: trigalg693
No flubbed notes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_i1FHP-B0w

As you requested Hakki lol. I also fixed the noise, turned out my cheapo XLR cables had different wiring (hot wire on pin 2 vs 1) and my TRS adapters were consistent but used the opposite pin for ground, so the sound was mostly EM interference.

Yay! Impressive!!
But this etude, for me, is not about the RH at all-it's about the LH. So, I think, personally, that you should bring it out smile You've done all the hard work- that's the easy part!!
Thanks for sharing!
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5) Grieg Concerto, Op. 16
6) Schubert Impromptu Op. 90 no. 3
7) Debussy Images, Book I

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#2279377 - 05/21/14 07:22 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Impressive, indeed! I'd love to hear it on a good acoustic grand, however.

Thank you.

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#2279412 - 05/21/14 09:05 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Yea I'll try to get it on a nice grand piano this summer, I don't have access to one smirk

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#2279555 - 05/22/14 07:25 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: Polyphonist]
trigalg693 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Your piano's upper register needs tuning.


It's a digital piano lol, what tuning? It's on the factory tune.

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#2279657 - 05/22/14 11:35 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
Hakki Offline
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Originally Posted By: trigalg693
No flubbed notes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_i1FHP-B0w

As you requested Hakki lol. I also fixed the noise, turned out my cheapo XLR cables had different wiring (hot wire on pin 2 vs 1) and my TRS adapters were consistent but used the opposite pin for ground, so the sound was mostly EM interference.


Bravo, well done! Impressive indeed.
I too would like to hear it played on a decent grand.
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#2281105 - 05/26/14 02:43 AM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Okay, looks like I might be able to get some time with a nice piano in a concert hall in July, will keep you guys posted. Gonna do the Godowsky C major, 25/6 and Godowsky version of that too.

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#2281420 - 05/26/14 07:59 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Bravo! Amazing right had performance, but yes, I'd like the left had to sing more. Besides that, it's wonderful! Congratulations!
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#2281421 - 05/26/14 08:00 PM Re: Chopin etude op.10 no.1 [Re: trigalg693]
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Amazing right *hand* Sorry about the type-o! :P
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