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#2263803 - Yesterday at 09:02 PM the conclusion on weighted keys and developing technique
B.Petrovic Offline
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Registered: 04/18/14
Posts: 2
Hello all,

I've been browsing this forum among others and soaking up all the information I can about weighted keys and wanted to get some advice from you guys to help me finally make a decision. I've been playing for about a year and a half now, and when I first started I bought a Casio PX 735. I play an upright Kawai piano at my piano lessons and the difference in feel alone between my non-weighted piano and the Kawai keys is immense.

I'm at the stage where I really want a piano that will enable me to develop my strength and overall technique and i'm wondering whether weighted digital piano's are worth it, or if I should just look for an older decent used upright piano. Basically, if i'm looking to spend under $1500, are digital piano's with weighted keys worth looking at before trying to find a decent used upright piano?All I really care about is that the feel of the piano simulates an acoustic well, I don't need tonnes of features, sounds, usb connectivity etc.

So far i've looked at the Casio PX-150 and the Yamaha DGX650B but haven't had a chance to play either yet.

Thanks in advance!


Edited by B.Petrovic (Yesterday at 09:03 PM)

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#2263838 - Yesterday at 09:39 PM Re: the conclusion on weighted keys and developing technique [Re: B.Petrovic]
McBuster Offline
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Registered: 07/12/11
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Loc: St Paul Minnesota USA
You will find a wealth of free advice for the piano you might like within your budget.

Also, consider going to the shops in your area and just trying/[playing several until you have narrowed it to 2-3.
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#2263882 - Today at 12:22 AM Re: the conclusion on weighted keys and developing technique [Re: B.Petrovic]
rnaple Offline

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Registered: 12/23/10
Posts: 1806
Loc: Rocky Mountains
A digital is much less expensive.
You're looking at less than $1.5k. You'll be disappointed in the acoustics you can get at that price. Also will be spending money on tuning.

When you keep playing that Kawai upright. Then going back to a PX-150 or DGX. I wonder if you won't get to where you won't like your digital? I do know if you play the PX up high on the keys. It feels very....lets say...wrongly hard. This is because of the lack of pivot point on the keys. I only briefly played a DGX. It seemed pretty good? I didn't check closely and playing up high on the keys. You will do that when playing both black and white.

I'm just a beginner myself. Am serious about learning. I can't have an acoustic. I can be extremely picky. I do have to say I'm extremely happy with my VPC. I'm confident I can go to any acoustic piano and not have a problem. This would limit out your budget. Maybe even a little more before you're done. I do think you will consider it money well spent. You'll get value for your money.

EDIT: I didn't say. Basically the PX-150 is real good for the price. Like the DGX. Again... I fear when you keep going back and forth to that upright. You won't be happy in a few months.



Edited by rnaple (Today at 12:28 AM)
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#2263883 - Today at 12:42 AM Re: the conclusion on weighted keys and developing technique [Re: B.Petrovic]
MacMacMac Offline
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Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 3669
Loc: North Carolina
If you have leanings toward an acoustic, you'll likely never be satisfied with a digital.

People are giving up piano in droves, and there are plenty of pianos available at moderate prices. (But be sure to have a piano technician evaluate a piano before you buy it.)

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#2263939 - Today at 03:49 AM Re: the conclusion on weighted keys and developing technique [Re: B.Petrovic]
EssBrace Offline
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Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 2328
Loc: Suffolk, United Kingdom
Originally Posted By: B.Petrovic
I've been playing for about a year and a half now, and when I first started I bought a Casio PX 735. I play an upright Kawai piano at my piano lessons and the difference in feel alone between my non-weighted piano and the Kawai keys is immense.


Am I missing something here? Your Casio has got a graded hammer action keyboard, i.e., is a weighted action. As good as, or perhaps slightly better than, many entry level weighted digital piano actions.

The Casio action will feel different to the Kawai upright but that's not to say the Kawai is necessarily superior. It is an upright and the Casio is emulating a grand. All actions feel different but grands are better than uprights in most cases as far as their key action is concerned. Personally, I would rather play a good DP action than an upright action, unless that upright action happens to be a Yamaha. That's just my preference though and many uprights do have very good key actions.

Have I misunderstood your question?
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#2263949 - 53 minutes 47 seconds ago Re: the conclusion on weighted keys and developing technique [Re: B.Petrovic]
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Registered: 11/26/12
Posts: 341
Loc: Poland
BPetrovic,
If you hve the px735, the 1500$ is far to less to get any significant step-up. You will have to spend at least 2000$, and those pianos which can satisfy you are Kawai CA15, Roland HP504 and, perhaps, Kawai cn24 and 34, as their action is sometimes comparable to the Rolands, some people het its better, some its worse. CN series is cheaper.

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