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Ligeti's etude no.14 is written for pianists, and the 14-A version is for player piano (if i'm not mistaken).

If we're talking about hard "songs", Christopher O'Riley's Radiohead transcriptions are insanely difficult.


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Originally Posted by Kuanpiano
Ligeti's etude no.14 is written for pianists, and the 14-A version is for player piano (if i'm not mistaken).



You are not mistaken. 14-A was published for player piano, with a live performer being "ad lib." option (which might well have been a bit of drollery by Mr. Ligeti, IMO).

The issue of dynamics is a non-issue. Dynamics within a solo piece are scaled to the instrument on which the music is being played. If a composer takes poetic license with them, that's a consideration, too, and literal-mindedness becomes a serious liability.

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Originally Posted by Kuanpiano
If we're talking about hard "songs", Christopher O'Riley's Radiohead transcriptions are insanely difficult.


They're hard, but not impossible. Most of the stuff in there is pretty natural after you practice it for a while. They're a blast to play, though!

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8 f's is impossible with a piano. The loudest I can get is 3 f's. forte is always the same number of decibels no matter what instrument and so a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears. That is how come not every instrument plays forte in an orchestra.

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8 f's is impossible with a piano. The loudest I can get is 3 f's. forte is always the same number of decibels no matter what instrument and so a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears. That is how come not every instrument plays forte in an orchestra.


How old are you?

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8 f's is impossible with a piano. The loudest I can get is 3 f's. forte is always the same number of decibels no matter what instrument and so a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears. That is how come not every instrument plays forte in an orchestra.

How old are you?

A question I have, with difficulty, long refrained from asking. grin


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Originally Posted by caters
8 f's is impossible with a piano. The loudest I can get is 3 f's. forte is always the same number of decibels no matter what instrument and so a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears. That is how come not every instrument plays forte in an orchestra.

Sorry caters, but decibels work logarithmically, the piano/forte scale works proportionately; one does not map to the other without some scaling factor, i.e. the performer. Um...as such, a piece could be written with a thousand fortissimos and be possible to play with a single finger. I could be wrong...but I don't *think* I am...
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Originally Posted by caters
a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears.


You have no idea what you are talking about. The equation you just advanced would suggest that 10 instruments playing at 100 decibels would be the equivalent of 1000 decibels. In reality it would be about 110 decibels.

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8 f's is impossible with a piano. The loudest I can get is 3 f's. forte is always the same number of decibels no matter what instrument and so a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears. That is how come not every instrument plays forte in an orchestra.

How old are you?

A question I have, with difficulty, long refrained from asking. grin


I am 15

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8 f's is impossible with a piano. The loudest I can get is 3 f's. forte is always the same number of decibels no matter what instrument and so a whole orchestra playing forte wounds like x decibels(where x is the number of decibels in forte) * number of instruments and so would hurt your ears. That is how come not every instrument plays forte in an orchestra.

How old are you?

A question I have, with difficulty, long refrained from asking. grin

I am 15

I'm surprised. My guess was about half that. wink


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So you are not a stem cell scientist, as it states in your profile?

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Deleted. Not liking it when I'm being rude or snarky.

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So you are not a stem cell scientist, as it states in your profile?


not for real but I often pretend to be one.

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I am 15

So you are not a stem cell scientist, as it states in your profile?

not for real but I often pretend to be one.

Things are becoming clearer by the minute.


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Originally Posted by JoelW
Troll caught.


What do we do with it?

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Troll caught.


What do we do with it?

Who can say? Why don't we have a vote.


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Deleted. Not liking it when I'm being rude or snarky.

Yeah, I should probably edit my own posts this way more often.........


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Originally Posted by JoelW
Troll caught.


I am not a troll. Just because my profile says I am something when I am not does not mean I am trolling. and just because I often post things that you say are wrong(not as in wrong to post but as in there is a mistake in the post) doesn't mean I am trolling either.

Polyphonist on the other hand is a troll.

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