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[/quote] Looks like you have some extra time on your hands, since you can't play your RD800 until Roland sends you the caution label. [/quote] This is the grief I get for trying something other than Kawai!! I am in a good place now. I have retired the ES7 to my office at work. RD800 has been working out great on the road for over a month and sounds outstanding live. Now desperately need to purchase a home piano for practice and recording. MP11 is front runner and MP7 second. I would buy a CA65/95 but I can't commit to a console for some reason. I guess Im accustomed to the flexibility of a stage and using my own sound source(s). NH dealer said he will have MP7/11 by the end of this month early next month. Until then, I will carry around a fire extinguisher ;-) However, if you still have you Nord Piano 2 for sale, PM with your best offer!
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I just ordered the CP4 myself (finally). So a possibility I might be selling my NP2 as well, although it wouldn't be a local pickup.. I do have the original shipping box + the Nord case. I might be open to a trade on the RD-800, which I would use for the home.
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Congratulations on the CP4.
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I just ordered the CP4 myself (finally). So a possibility I might be selling my NP2 as well, although it wouldn't be a local pickup.. I do have the original shipping box + the Nord case. I might be open to a trade on the RD-800, which I would use for the home. I could not wait for release of Kawai MP series so I came close to buying the CP4 when it came out. Very nice DP. But once i demoed the RD800 (many times) there was no turning back. Plus , got in new for $2,124 in tax free NH. RD800 is something special and made a significant difference for some of the requests our band was facing. Aside of the XLR "issue" , another turn off for some is size and weight, but it is almost identical to ES7 dimensions. I don't mind luging it around at all. Im already use to it. Im 44 and in pretty good shape (for now!) I always liked the piano sound and features of NS2 very much but always felt that it was WAY out of my price range. Also, not a big fan of the action. But I always go right to the NS2 every time i'm poking around GC and connect with it immediately. I was interested in 36251's NP2 because it was almost new and I believe we do not live very far from each other. NP2 would be fine, no need for all NS2 features. I just want great AC piano sound that I can keep in my den for practice and recording. the MP11 is checking off every box I could ever ask for, however, if I can save $1,000 and by the used NP2, I would consider it. NP2 vs MP11 would be very interesting to me, again minus the action. @Dave Ferris, good time to thank you. I find all your post very insightful and helpful to many of us on the forum. Thanks!
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I just ordered the CP4 myself (finally). So a possibility I might be selling my NP2 as well, although it wouldn't be a local pickup.. I do have the original shipping box + the Nord case. I might be open to a trade on the RD-800, which I would use for the home. I could not wait for release of Kawai MP series so I came close to buying the CP4 when it came out. Very nice DP. But once i demoed the RD800 there was no turning back. Plus , got in new for $2,124 in tax free NH. RD800 is something special and made a significant difference for some of the requests our band was facing. Aside of the XLR "issue" , another turn off for some is size and weight, but it is almost identical to ES7 dimensions. I don't mind luging it around at all. Im already use to it. Im 44 and in pretty good shape (for now!) I always liked the piano sound and features of NS2 very much but always felt that it was WAY out of my price range. Also, not a big fan of the action. But I always go right to the NS2 every time i'm poking around GC and connect with it immediately. I was interested in 36251's NP2 because it was almost new and I believe we do not live very far from each other. NP2 would be fine, no need for all NS2 features. I just want great AC piano sound that I can keep in my den for practice and recording. the MP11 is checking off every box I could ever ask for, however, if I can save $1,000 and by the used NP2, I would consider it. NP2 vs MP11 would be very interesting to me, again minus the action. @Dave Ferris, good time to thank you. I find all your post very insightful and helpful to many of us on the forum. Thanks! I sent you a PM. Dave - location - location - location
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Thanks Marko. Yes it would make way more practical sense to buy 36251's since you guys are in the same general 'hood'. I was just thinking out loud. Yes at age 44, the 800 is still a doable schlep. It is as well at age 60 (61 in 7 weeks ) on occasion, if you're fit - which luckily I am. But I do work extremely hard to stay in that state. I'll probably hold onto the NP2 till I'm absolutely sure the CP4's a good replacement for it in every gigging context and style. Yes the Nords are overpriced (maybe not the Electro) imo..although the build is better then the CP4. But I think the CP4 build is perfectly fine too for what it is and the price point. Like I've said often - I have a love/hate relationship with the NP2. It does sound great live but just not fun or inspiring for me to play on. It records amazingly well too...a few of the examples on my soundcloud page turned out pretty darn good imo.. But I've been going back lately and listening to my old recordings of the cp5 and also to this guy's youtubes. The tone, especially in the jazz context he's playing, really makes the cp5 shine. So I'm digging the more mellow tone of cp5 more these days, even though the overall sound might not be as realistic and "in your face" as the Nord pianos. After over 2.5 years of just using the Nord...I just might be ready for a change. Yes looking forward very much to using the CP4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Zf1u-hp-gI'm very much digging the Rd-800 - it's new Concert Grand sample and the new action. So at this point it could be a tossup between it and the CP5 as to which one I'd get for primarily home use. That is if I decide to unload the Nord. I can't justify, or more important, afford, to have 3 of these things laying around my house. Oh and thanks also Kevin K.
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I just want great AC piano sound... I hear you can get a great AC piano sound on the RD-800 if you set it to the "Studio Piano" voice and plug the AC cord into one of the XLR outs.
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I just want great AC piano sound... I hear you can get a great AC piano sound on the RD-800 if you set it to the "Studio Piano" voice and plug the AC cord into one of the XLR outs. great but it's only mono.
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I just want great AC piano sound... I hear you can get a great AC piano sound on the RD-800 if you set it to the "Studio Piano" voice and plug the AC cord into one of the XLR outs. one little typo and you killed it. well played , Dewster. ..and pretty darn funny
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great but it's only mono. It's stereo if you count yourself screaming due to the current flow through your heart and lung area.
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Unlike previous Roland stage pianos, the RD-800 use a 2-pin (C8) power inlet. I've got one of those here too. They still don't fit. Spacing is wrong and outer plug doesn't fit the XLR hole. I don't think even the pin thickness is compatible either. Again, you have to butcher the plug and the pins to make it go in there. dewster's photos suggest otherwise. Those who know every thing and they know that they know, are intellegent ... should be followed. Those who don't know any thing and they know that they don't know , are interesting ... should be taught. Those who don't know any thing and they claim to know , are fools , can be said as arrogent... should be avoided / ignored and I am not referring to Dewster
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And 'twas said -- Let he who hath never plugged his Line Ins into his Line Outs cast the first stone...Srsly though, I don't think that you'd have to be stupid to make this mistake (not that stupid people deserve to be electrocuted and have their equipment wrecked anyway). People don't pay a lot of attention to plugging things in because it's not an activity that usually entails any risk, and, as been shown by posters in this thread, most don't even realize that the power cable will fit easily into another socket. It seems pretty normal when plugging something in to somewhere you can't see directly, to just feel until you find the right socket that fits. Of course, if you're aware there is a risk to life, limb, and equipment, you'll be more careful, but the point is that no-one would think that until Roland release a warning. Personally I'd much rather use equipment that eliminates risk by having different shaped sockets, to remove any minor stress and mental overhead required. I can get my thrills elsewhere.
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It seems pretty normal when plugging something in to somewhere you can't see directly, to just feel until you find the right socket that fits. This brings to mind the old P4 series Rover autos that my dad used to drive in the late '50s and early '60s. Every knob on the dashboard was shaped differently, so that you could operate the controls accurately in the dark and without taking eyes off the road. Seems like a sensible concept.
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Yeh man, plugged like that you get one real killer piano sound from the RD800
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It seems pretty normal when plugging something in to somewhere you can't see directly, to just feel until you find the right socket that fits. If I can't see what I'm doing, call me crazy, but I generally take the plug in hand and feel my way around with the end of it for whatever fits, rather than with my fingertips. I figure any exposed metal contacts back there don't need my corrosive skin oils all over them. Proof positive I'm a waste of skin should it end up killing me.
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[non-informative silly nonsense] Jim Carey saying "proof positive" in the context of envidence of aliens - time 6:50 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcO0RTI1a5I#t=6m50s
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It seems pretty normal when plugging something in to somewhere you can't see directly, to just feel until you find the right socket that fits. This brings to mind the old P4 series Rover autos that my dad used to drive in the late '50s and early '60s. Every knob on the dashboard was shaped differently, so that you could operate the controls accurately in the dark and without taking eyes off the road. Seems like a sensible concept. Ooh lovely. Rover P4. With adjustable height arm rests in the doors and wipers that jumped down off the screen onto little chrome pedestals when you switched them to 'park'. A proper British car.
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They should just make caps for XLR, attached like a gas cap. You take them off when you have the cables. Soon to be released by Neutrik, the SCCD-W sprung XLR sealing cover. The XLR's on the RD-800 are at 30mm centres, unfortunately the SCCD-W is 35.7mm wide, so won't quite fit. However, this is the kind of thing Roland could supply to end users, and if the internal nuts securing the XLR connectors are captive (which I imagine they are), users could retrofit them themselves.
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Oh, I wish they'd stayed with 3-pin connectors. I'm upgrading after getting through several A-90s since '96. Several gigs had panics because the one or two 2-pin power leads were packed away in a different box, or intermittent.
We have hundreds of three pins (exaggeration) that would quite happily step up, since everything on stage that plugs in uses them. I've got a couple of 3->2 pin adapters on order, one of which I plan on leaving in (as recommended earlier).
As for stupidity. Plenty of cramped or dark setups where I've plugged in blind. Left out lead into phones, pedal into pretty much anything. In a rush. Maybe somebody else setting up for me. Of course we all know where everything is supposed to go, but it doesn't always work like that. Maybe somebody applies the logic that it's a two or three pin socket depending on the country and its earthing requirements (leap of logic, but not impossible).
Haven't seen a reason why they abandoned putting the power socket on the other end of the unit, that always seemed to make sense to me.
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Whilst going back to 3 pin IEC (60320) C14/13 connectors would be the ideal solution, I'm not sure how practical it would be at this stage in production.
The existing C7 connector may well be soldered straight onto the power PCB, so along with the rear panel to which it fixes, it may require a major redesign if they were to change it.
I think it's more likely that Roland will come up with a solution that can be easily retro-fitted to all the RD-800's, either in stock, or out in the field.
We are unlikely to be informed as to why Roland moved the power input to the opposite end, or why they changed it to a 2 pin. We know the keyboard is double insulated, so no earth is required, but now it differs from their other flagship models, and like you say, we all have IEC C14 cables in our case, now we have to make sure we have a C8 as well.
Good idea keeping an adaptor for emergencies, but don't fancy using it regularly as it would be prone to being knocked, thereby damaging the keyboard socket.
I'm still waiting so see what they end up supplying.
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