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#2268663 - 04/29/14 12:42 PM Learning Other Clefs
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I know treble clef(g) and bass clef(f). But my teacher said i have to learn the c clef too but why i have to learn it? I'm playing piano and i think treble and bass clef is enough for me what do you think about learning other clefs ? What is the benefit of it?

And there are too many c clefs like alto,tenor,baritone,mezzo soprano and soprano

which one i have to learn im confused cry


Edited by Batuhan (04/29/14 12:44 PM)
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Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major,
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#2268672 - 04/29/14 01:12 PM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: Batuhan]
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It depends, if you are planning on sitting ABRSM or other exams. You have to pass grade 5 theory to take any practical exams at a higher level, and you well be tested on the tenor and alto clef as well as the treble and bass in the grade 5 test. The exam requires you to read and transcribe to those clefs as well.
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#2268679 - 04/29/14 01:23 PM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: SwissMS]
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Originally Posted By: SwissMS
It depends, if you are planning on sitting ABRSM or other exams. You have to pass grade 5 theory to take any practical exams at a higher level, and you well be tested on the tenor and alto clef as well as the treble and bass in the grade 5 test. The exam requires you to read and transcribe to those clefs as well.


so learning tenor and alto enough doesnt need to learn soprano or baritone?
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#2268683 - 04/29/14 01:32 PM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: Batuhan]
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Originally Posted By: Batuhan
And there are too many c clefs like alto,tenor,baritone,mezzo soprano and soprano

which one i have to learn im confused cry

There is really only one concept for the C clef. The arrow in the middle points to a line. That line is middle C (hense the name C clef). Since there are 5 lines, there can be 5 C clefs, one for each voice. Just remember, the higher middle C is, the lower the notes on the staff will be.

Unless you play viola or trombone, or sing some older choir music, it's more of an academic exercise really.
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#2268687 - 04/29/14 01:39 PM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: Brian Lucas]
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Originally Posted By: Brian Lucas
Originally Posted By: Batuhan
And there are too many c clefs like alto,tenor,baritone,mezzo soprano and soprano

which one i have to learn im confused cry

There is really only one concept for the C clef. The arrow in the middle points to a line. That line is middle C (hense the name C clef). Since there are 5 lines, there can be 5 C clefs, one for each voice. Just remember, the higher middle C is, the lower the notes on the staff will be.

Unless you play viola or trombone, or sing some older choir music, it's more of an academic exercise really.


wow i already learn tenor clef a bit

spaces are e-g-b-d

lines are d-f-a-c-e

its so easy!


Edited by Batuhan (04/29/14 01:40 PM)
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Waltz Op. 36 No. 1 in G-flat major,
2 Preludes, Op. 12 in D-flat major.

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#2268740 - 04/29/14 03:48 PM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: Batuhan]
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I'm not sure why you would need to know the C-clef, but as SwissMS said above, I also had to know it for theory "Rudiments" exams for RCM. They make you learn all kinds of things that make no sense, like modes, but at this point, I sort of take it in and trust it would all have some purpose in the future.

Maybe it will help you read an orchestral score if you were interested at some point.
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#2268885 - 04/29/14 09:52 PM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: Batuhan]
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The alto and tenor clefs are very useful if you ever accompany a violist or non-beginner cellist, or play piano trios. Your score will show their parts, but their score shows only their own, so it helps to know what their part is.
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#2268945 - 04/30/14 01:32 AM Re: Learning Other Clefs [Re: Batuhan]
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I have some fluency in the alto clef. The others I can read intervallically but don't really have any fluency in.
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