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#227127 - 01/17/09 09:31 AM Finally narrowed down choices
wyldelee Offline
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Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 6
This is my first post, although I have been a lurker reading the forum for months, on this journey toward buying a piano.

I have been away from the piano for 30 years and finally decided it was time to return to an old love. On this journey I have visited many piano shops and had the pleasure of hearing many fine pianos and meeting some wonderful people.

I have narrowed my choices to a few and thought I would ask for any thoughts or opinions.

An Estonia L-190 ($20k,) a rebuilt (pre 1930)Mason & Hamlin A (same price range),or rebuilt Mason & Hamlin AA (for just a little bit more money).
As a cost effective alternative to these I have also seriously considered a 6'2" Brodmann ($13k) which seems like a very nice piano for the money.

I am at the point of making a decision and there are things I love about each of these pianos, so any thoughts from the piano knowledgeable before I focus on just one would be most appreciated.

thank you in advance

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#227128 - 01/17/09 09:38 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
tanjinjack Offline
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Registered: 01/09/08
Posts: 851
Loc: Malaysia
Get a chance to play all of them in one day, and if possible, side by side, then pick the one you like the most. Make notes about each of the pianos so that you can make a better comparison if side-by-side comparison is not available. Also, you may want to ask someone else to play for you and listen them from a distance, to get a better idea of the tone of the piano.

Nonetheless, for M&H A to be shortlisted with other six footers, it may mean the M&H A is more special. Mind to tell us more about each of the pianos, and perhaps the process of you shortlisting them to this final 4.

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#227129 - 01/17/09 09:47 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
wyldelee Offline
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Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 6
Unfortunately none are in the same place so it has been a matter of elimination and memory. It has been a difficult process but an enjoyable one nonetheless.

I feel confident in coming down to these choices but the difficulty is now deciding between them. Of course the Brodmann and the Estonia come with a new piano warranty even though the L-190 is a 2006 model.

The Mason's come with Rebuilder warranty's.

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#227130 - 01/17/09 10:07 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
DanLaura Larson Offline
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Registered: 09/01/08
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Loc: Pocatello, Idaho
20k for an Estonia L190 seems like a great price. The Brodmann is one of the best Chinese pianos out there, but if the extra 7k is in your budget already then I'd say that the Estonia is easily worth the extra money. M&H are great pianos too, also a much higher grade than the Brodmann. I assume you had a tech look over the rebuild. I personally would choose the L190 over the A, but between the AA and L190 it would require some more time invested to see which I felt was clearly more favorable.

Probably at this point it really comes down to which one you like best.
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#227131 - 01/17/09 10:49 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
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I love the Mason AA, which I am assuming is a new piano and would come with new piano warranties. Estonias are great too, and I know that there are lots of people on this forum who love the 190. As between these two, I would go with the sound that you prefer. My personal preference tends to be toward the Mason, but that is because I love the sound it produces even more than the lovely sound I am sure that the Estonia makes. In short, you cannot go wrong with either of these. I expect the rebuilt A is great too, but you should research the rebuilding job thoroughly before making a decision--more will depend on the rebuilding job than on what the piano was like when it was made.

I cannot give you an expert opinion because I am not an expert, so these are just my preferences.

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#227132 - 01/17/09 11:08 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
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Man, all those prices seem very desirable. I paid a lot more than that for a new M&H A a few years ago.

I would probably pick the L190 over the rebuilt A myself. I couldn't tell from your post if the AA was rebuilt, too... if so, I'd want to have it thoroughly inspected first.

I've never played the Brodmann so can't comment on them, but unless you like it as much as or more than the Estonia, I'd recommend going with the Estonia as a terrific piano at a terrific price.
p.s. Welcome to the forum! If you've been lurking for some time, you'll be reassured that things aren't always so, er, contentious around here. \:D
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#227133 - 01/17/09 11:20 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
lilylady Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 4981
Loc: boston north
It doesn't seem like the AA could be new. Not at that price!

The only Estonia 190 new at that price would probably be the on in Fl where the dealer is going out of business????

Both of the above have my stamp of approval but it doesn't matter what "I" think...it matters what "YOU" think that counts.
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#227134 - 01/17/09 11:50 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
wyldelee Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 6
I wish, but the AA is definitely not new, it is a rebuild from a reputable rebuilder. I would absolutely have a tech inspect the piano if I am going that route.

The more I think it through, it seems that my choice comes down to the new Estonia or the rebuilt AA.

thank you all for sharing your thoughts so far.

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#227135 - 01/17/09 03:32 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
Rich D. Online   content
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Registered: 05/27/01
Posts: 1282
Loc: Rehoboth Beach De. USA
The Estonia is a nice piano but in my opinion a competently rebuilt Mason AA would be my choice hands down. The good AAs I've played in the past had a warm, mellow tone and a clear singing treble. Great bass as well. Good luck in whatever piano you choose.

Rich
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#227136 - 01/17/09 06:16 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
wyldelee Offline
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Registered: 01/12/09
Posts: 6
These pianos are all great but the opportunity to purchase this Estonia,(a piano I love), has proven irresistable. In fact, I was leaning hard toward the L-190, "a new piano, warranty, dealer in close proximity,etc." but the final offer put forth on the Estonia was enough to make the decision very easy to make....today.

I am thrilled. Delivery will be next Saturday.

thank you all for sharing your thoughts and experience. I am truly looking forward to my new Estonia.

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#227137 - 01/17/09 08:08 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
Bear 1 Offline
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Registered: 07/28/06
Posts: 1348
Loc: Hillsboro Beach South Florida
Greetings wyldelee,

Congrats! Good choice the Estonia 190. One of my favorite pianos too. \:\)

I hope that you have many years of enjoyable music making with your new piano.

Best wishes,

Bear
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#227138 - 01/17/09 08:12 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
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Registered: 08/11/07
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Congratulations! You will love your piano, and I am sure it will bring much joy into your life..

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#227139 - 01/17/09 08:23 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
DanLaura Larson Offline
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Registered: 09/01/08
Posts: 695
Loc: Pocatello, Idaho
The price you listed for the L190 in your first post was great. Did they lower it even more? Kudos to you and a good deal and a great piano.

Dan
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#227140 - 01/17/09 08:38 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
pno Offline
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Registered: 08/27/05
Posts: 1043
Loc: ♪oron♪o, on♪ario, canada...
 Quote:
Originally posted by wyldelee:
These pianos are all great but the opportunity to purchase this Estonia,(a piano I love), has proven irresistable. In fact, I was leaning hard toward the L-190, "a new piano, warranty, dealer in close proximity,etc." but the final offer put forth on the Estonia was enough to make the decision very easy to make....today.

I am thrilled. Delivery will be next Saturday.

thank you all for sharing your thoughts and experience. I am truly looking forward to my new Estonia. [/b]
Are you sure you can get a L190 for $20,000? I guess we Canadians are screwed again (and again). A local dealer recently quoted me $32,000 (CDN + taxes) for a L168. After taxes it is double the price of a C2!
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#227141 - 01/17/09 08:48 PM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
Furtwangler Offline
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Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 1570
Loc: Danville, California
You did good!

Congratulations.

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#227142 - 01/18/09 12:19 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
squonk Offline
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Registered: 08/11/07
Posts: 95
Loc: California
Congratulations and welcome to the family. \:D
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#227143 - 01/18/09 01:45 AM Re: Finally narrowed down choices
TX-Dennis Offline
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Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 4126
Loc: Texas
Wonderful choice! Enjoy!
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