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#227220 - 08/31/08 11:14 PM Steinerman vs Hailun
ritabc Offline
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Registered: 08/30/08
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I was out piano shopping in British Columbia, Canada yesterday, and came across a Hailun H1 and a Steinerman 123 (or 121, I think the salesman might have got the last digit wrong. He said it was a 48" 123 - which looks to me to be a contradiction in terms!).

I know that Hailun makes both pianos, but I am wondering whether anyone has any knowledge of which of the models would be the better. What makes them different? Why would someone choose one over the other?

Right now, I'm not interested in the Chinese vs non-Chinese debate. I think that unless a magnificent, miraculous used piano in the $4000 range appears, these are our choices.

Both pianos are available to me at essentially the same price. I am wondering whether you have any opinions on which one will give me better value for my dollar.

I have read a lot of the threads about Hailun and Steinerman, and appreciate people's frank conversation.

Thanks,
Rita

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#227221 - 09/01/08 01:48 AM Re: Steinerman vs Hailun
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Registered: 04/16/06
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ritabc,

If you expect any sensible answers to your question you will have to be specific about whether you mean the Steigerman Classic or Steigerman Premium.

Actually these two line have nothing in common (different manufactering origin) apart from the distributor name.

schwammerl.

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#227222 - 09/01/08 02:02 AM Re: Steinerman vs Hailun
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Registered: 01/27/07
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Loc: torrance, CA
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Right now, I'm not interested in the Chinese vs non-Chinese debate. I think that unless a magnificent, miraculous used piano in the $4000 range appears, these are our choices.
I'm not interested in the Chinese vs non-Chinese debate either, so that makes two of us. \:\) Anyway, in your case the choice is between two Chinese pianos.

Steigerman pianos usually offer upgrades to basic Hailun models. If the Steigerman model is indeed the 123, it probably has cosmetic upgrades (a slow-close fallboard and a brass kickplate over the pedals).

It MIGHT also have performance upgrades such as different hammers or a different action. BTW, the Steigerman 123 is 49" tall.

The Hailun H-1 is a new basic Hailun model. It probably has a more recent date of manufacture than the Steigerman. It probably does not have the mentioned upgrades. This may or may not be important to you. If both pianos are 'new' and set up well to perform musically, the cosmetics would not make any difference to me.

Steigerman Music has imported many pianos from many different manufacturers over the years. If and when their relationship with Hailun ends, they may source from another Chinese maker. On the other hand, in the present slow sales climate, they might simply quit importing pianos. I have no specific reason to think that, but it is a possibility. The Hailun name on the Hailun piano is probably a safer bet to continue as an ongoing enterprise, but in the present economic climate for piano retail, even that is no sure thing.

Warranty service on either piano would probably be handled by Hailun. so I don't see warranty as a basis for choosing the one over the other.

If I were in your shoes, I would opt for the Steigerman if the price could be brought down lower than the Hailun. Many dealers are closing out the Steigerman premium line, so you may have the leverage to do that.

Both of these are much-better-than-average Chinese pianos.
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#227223 - 09/01/08 11:37 AM Re: Steinerman vs Hailun
ritabc Offline
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Registered: 08/30/08
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If you expect any sensible answers to your question you will have to be specific about whether you mean the Steigerman Classic or Steigerman Premium.

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It is a Steigerman Premium
Rita

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#227224 - 09/01/08 04:52 PM Re: Steinerman vs Hailun
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Many dealers are closing out the Steigerman premium line, so you may have the leverage to do that.
This is true and that's why we have made big price adjustments on all remaining S.P. stock.

Hailun as the actual maker of the pianos will now represent itself with its own factory name, as Yamaha did back in the 50's at a time when their pianos were also introduced to Canada under the [private label..] name Steigerman first.

In fact, Hailun is the first and only Chinese made piano today bearing its owner's very own name: a sure sign of great confidence and promise.

Either piano should do you very well for you,the differences are rather negligible and I would - certainly at this particular time - simply go with the better deal.

Either way, you're on to a very nice piano!

Norbert \:\)
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