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Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? #2271947 05/06/14 03:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 971 P Paul678 OP 500 Post Club Member
OP Paul678 500 Post Club Member P Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 971	Here's an interesting Yamaha C2: http://tucson.craigslist.org/msg/4457420483.html But I don't really want the Disklavier. It has to have solenoids and such....do these affect tone or play-ability at all, when the unit is turned off, and not in use? Or is it completely unnoticeable when not used? Is it easy to remove from the piano? How much does it cost to remove it? Or should one just leave it in, just in case the next buyer wants it? How quickly will the disks be obsolete anyways? How does it affect re-sale value? Last edited by Paul678; 05/06/14 03:52 PM.

Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? Paul678 #2272053 05/06/14 08:51 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,726 Portland, Oregon Grandpianoman 2000 Post Club Member
Grandpianoman 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,726 Portland, Oregon	Yamaha builds the Disklavier at their factory to very exacting specs. It does nothing negative to the playability, touch etc of the piano. The solenoids sit underneath the back of the keys, and only make contact when the Disklavier is on. One would not know it had a disklavier installed by playing the piano with it on or off. I would suggest leaving it in....removing it changes the original configuration, so it may be worth even less when selling, plus you may enjoy the system or the new owners, the vast Yamaha library of recorded music. If it has the recording feature, you can record your playing as well. http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/product/1198243?currency=USD Another thought...I would def have the piano checked out by piano technician, and also make sure the Disklavier is working properly before you buy it. ***I have that exact same model Disklavier in my Yamaha Digital Grand....it's an excellent system, and it does have the record feature. It also has a wireless remote control that can adjust tempo, transpose, and volume. Last edited by Grandpianoman; 05/06/14 10:02 PM.

Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? Grandpianoman #2272393 05/07/14 02:05 PM
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OP Paul678 500 Post Club Member P Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 971	Originally Posted by Grandpianoman Yamaha builds the Disklavier at their factory to very exacting specs. It does nothing negative to the playability, touch etc of the piano. The solenoids sit underneath the back of the keys, and only make contact when the Disklavier is on. One would not know it had a disklavier installed by playing the piano with it on or off. I would suggest leaving it in....removing it changes the original configuration, so it may be worth even less when selling, plus you may enjoy the system or the new owners, the vast Yamaha library of recorded music. If it has the recording feature, you can record your playing as well. http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/product/1198243?currency=USD Another thought...I would def have the piano checked out by piano technician, and also make sure the Disklavier is working properly before you buy it. ***I have that exact same model Disklavier in my Yamaha Digital Grand....it's an excellent system, and it does have the record feature. It also has a wireless remote control that can adjust tempo, transpose, and volume. Of course a piano tech is required. But assuming it's pretty much as advertised, what do you think about the $10,000 asking price on this one?

Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? Paul678 #2272524 05/07/14 07:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,726 Portland, Oregon Grandpianoman 2000 Post Club Member
Grandpianoman 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,726 Portland, Oregon	I have no idea on the pricing, sorry. However, having a working Disklavier is a plus as opposed to the same model without one. I believe Yamaha has come out with a replacement/upgrade for that unit. It would allow you to also play Disklavier CD's and connect to the web etc. As it stands now, that system and mine, can only play floppies. Check with Yamaha as to the exact upgrade model, and if it's possible to upgrade with that unit. Last edited by Grandpianoman; 05/07/14 08:33 PM. Reason: added content

Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? Paul678 #2272587 05/07/14 10:58 PM
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Ed McMorrow, RPT 6000 Post Club Member E Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 6,714 Seattle, WA USA	I like the satin ebony better than the standard gloss. The price is reasonable if the condition is confirmed by tech inspection. I know Enrique Rosano the tech mentioned in the ad. In a seemingly infinite universe-infinite human creativity is-seemingly possible. According to NASA, 93% of the earth like planets possible in the known universe have yet to be formed. Contact: toneman1@me.com

Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? Grandpianoman #2273804 05/10/14 10:41 PM
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OP Paul678 500 Post Club Member P Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 971	Originally Posted by Grandpianoman I have no idea on the pricing, sorry. However, having a working Disklavier is a plus as opposed to the same model without one. I believe Yamaha has come out with a replacement/upgrade for that unit. It would allow you to also play Disklavier CD's and connect to the web etc. As it stands now, that system and mine, can only play floppies. Check with Yamaha as to the exact upgrade model, and if it's possible to upgrade with that unit. Well, if it can only play floppies, it's not very useful these days, right? I'd have to check how much it would be to upgrade, and factor that in. Or, since I don't plan on using it, I guess I could just buy it, and just pass it on to the next buyer as-is, and let them do the upgrade, if they so wish. Yes, Enrique Rosano has a great reputation in these parts, so it's comforting to know he was the one working on this piano. He last tuned it Sept. 2013. And the piano plays great. Very little hammer wear for a 16 year old piano, in my limited experience. And no cracks at all in the newer soundboard. A heavier key feel than the M&H I'm also considering, but I'm not sure which one I prefer. The C2 is certainly pricier at $10,000 asking price ($4,300 for M&H), but I think I can talk them down a bit. Last edited by Paul678; 05/10/14 10:42 PM.

Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? Paul678 #2275045 05/12/14 07:12 PM
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Grandpianoman 2000 Post Club Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,726 Portland, Oregon	Pre-recorded floppies are still sold for all the Diskliaviers out there that use them. https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/home It is old technology, however the upgrade would certainly close that gap. One of the best features of having a Disklavier is the ability to hear some of the best professional pianists play your piano as if they were sitting there. I could never play that well....:) .....and If I did not have the Disklavier and my LX, the piano would not be enjoyed as it is now. Another positive is the recording feature.

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