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#2271947 - 05/06/14 03:50 PM Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way??
Paul678 Offline
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Registered: 11/13/13
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Here's an interesting Yamaha C2:

http://tucson.craigslist.org/msg/4457420483.html


But I don't really want the Disklavier.

It has to have solenoids and such....do these affect
tone or play-ability at all, when the unit is turned
off, and not in use? Or is it completely unnoticeable
when not used?

Is it easy to remove from the piano? How much does
it cost to remove it? Or should one just leave it in,
just in case the next buyer wants it? How quickly
will the disks be obsolete anyways?

How does it affect re-sale value?


Edited by Paul678 (05/06/14 03:52 PM)

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#2272053 - 05/06/14 08:51 PM Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? [Re: Paul678]
Grandpianoman Offline
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Registered: 03/12/05
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Loc: Portland, Oregon
Yamaha builds the Disklavier at their factory to very exacting specs. It does nothing negative to the playability, touch etc of the piano. The solenoids sit underneath the back of the keys, and only make contact when the Disklavier is on. One would not know it had a disklavier installed by playing the piano with it on or off.

I would suggest leaving it in....removing it changes the original configuration, so it may be worth even less when selling, plus you may enjoy the system or the new owners, the vast Yamaha library of recorded music. If it has the recording feature, you can record your playing as well. http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/product/1198243?currency=USD

Another thought...I would def have the piano checked out by piano technician, and also make sure the Disklavier is working properly before you buy it.

***I have that exact same model Disklavier in my Yamaha Digital Grand....it's an excellent system, and it does have the record feature. It also has a wireless remote control that can adjust tempo, transpose, and volume.


Edited by Grandpianoman (05/06/14 10:02 PM)

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#2272393 - 05/07/14 02:05 PM Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? [Re: Grandpianoman]
Paul678 Offline
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Registered: 11/13/13
Posts: 971
Originally Posted By: Grandpianoman
Yamaha builds the Disklavier at their factory to very exacting specs. It does nothing negative to the playability, touch etc of the piano. The solenoids sit underneath the back of the keys, and only make contact when the Disklavier is on. One would not know it had a disklavier installed by playing the piano with it on or off.

I would suggest leaving it in....removing it changes the original configuration, so it may be worth even less when selling, plus you may enjoy the system or the new owners, the vast Yamaha library of recorded music. If it has the recording feature, you can record your playing as well. http://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/product/1198243?currency=USD

Another thought...I would def have the piano checked out by piano technician, and also make sure the Disklavier is working properly before you buy it.

***I have that exact same model Disklavier in my Yamaha Digital Grand....it's an excellent system, and it does have the record feature. It also has a wireless remote control that can adjust tempo, transpose, and volume.


Of course a piano tech is required.

But assuming it's pretty much as advertised, what do you
think about the $10,000 asking price on this one?

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#2272524 - 05/07/14 07:56 PM Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? [Re: Paul678]
Grandpianoman Offline
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Loc: Portland, Oregon
I have no idea on the pricing, sorry.

However, having a working Disklavier is a plus as opposed to the same model without one.

I believe Yamaha has come out with a replacement/upgrade for that unit. It would allow you to also play Disklavier CD's and connect to the web etc. As it stands now, that system and mine, can only play floppies. Check with Yamaha as to the exact upgrade model, and if it's possible to upgrade with that unit.



Edited by Grandpianoman (05/07/14 08:33 PM)
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#2272587 - 05/07/14 10:58 PM Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? [Re: Paul678]
Ed McMorrow, RPT Offline
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Loc: Seattle, WA USA
I like the satin ebony better than the standard gloss. The price is reasonable if the condition is confirmed by tech inspection. I know Enrique Rosano the tech mentioned in the ad.
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#2273804 - 05/10/14 10:41 PM Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? [Re: Grandpianoman]
Paul678 Offline
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Registered: 11/13/13
Posts: 971
Originally Posted By: Grandpianoman
I have no idea on the pricing, sorry.

However, having a working Disklavier is a plus as opposed to the same model without one.

I believe Yamaha has come out with a replacement/upgrade for that unit. It would allow you to also play Disklavier CD's and connect to the web etc. As it stands now, that system and mine, can only play floppies. Check with Yamaha as to the exact upgrade model, and if it's possible to upgrade with that unit.



Well, if it can only play floppies, it's not very
useful these days, right? I'd have to check how much
it would be to upgrade, and factor that in. Or, since
I don't plan on using it, I guess I could just buy it,
and just pass it on to the next buyer as-is, and let them
do the upgrade, if they so wish.

Yes, Enrique Rosano has a great reputation in these
parts, so it's comforting to know he was the one working
on this piano. He last tuned it Sept. 2013.

And the piano plays great. Very little hammer wear for
a 16 year old piano, in my limited experience. And
no cracks at all in the newer soundboard.

A heavier key feel than the M&H I'm also considering, but
I'm not sure which one I prefer. The C2 is certainly
pricier at $10,000 asking price ($4,300 for M&H), but I think I can talk them down a bit.


Edited by Paul678 (05/10/14 10:42 PM)

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#2275045 - 05/12/14 07:12 PM Re: Does a Disklavier Degrade a piano in any Way?? [Re: Paul678]
Grandpianoman Offline
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Registered: 03/12/05
Posts: 2450
Loc: Portland, Oregon
Pre-recorded floppies are still sold for all the Diskliaviers out there that use them.

https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/en/home

It is old technology, however the upgrade would certainly close that gap.

One of the best features of having a Disklavier is the ability to hear some of the best professional pianists play your piano as if they were sitting there. I could never play that well....:) .....and If I did not have the Disklavier and my LX, the piano would not be enjoyed as it is now. Another positive is the recording feature.

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