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#2273266 - 05/09/14 01:47 PM Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy
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I am looking at getting a Grand Piano, but I am at a loss as to what to get. I don't play much, and my daughter is just now learning, so I don't know anything technical about Pianos.

I have two that I am looking at right now and I am wondering which one is the better option (yes I know that is a loaded question for some).

One is a brand new Knabe WG59 for $8,500 (plus tax since it's a store).
The other is a Yamaha G3 for $5,700, but they don't know how old it is (private seller, no tax).

Ideas, input...?? I know I am looking at two different prices, but I am wondering if the new one is worth the extra money, or if the Yamaha is a good deal in comparison with the Kanabe.

Thanks for your help!

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#2273270 - 05/09/14 02:04 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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Newer is usually better, and a G3 would be pretty old. The Yamaha should be checked out by a technician.

Has your daughter tried them? Which does she prefer?
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#2273300 - 05/09/14 03:06 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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Edited by BrianDX (05/09/14 03:09 PM)
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#2273332 - 05/09/14 04:30 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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whattobuy, maybe you should describe your priorities, budget, etc.

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#2273438 - 05/09/14 08:01 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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My daughter tried them and she likes them both. I can tell a difference (the Yamaha sounds brighter) but not dramatically so. I can't tell enough of a difference to buy one over the other based on sound (on these two, I tried a Suzuki that was awful, and I prefer these two over some others I have tried), so now I am down to value. I am hoping to get a piano between 5'4" and 6' in size and I need to stay below $10,000. I am hoping to get a piano that I won't have to replace for a long time, if at all, but I also don't want to spend more money than a Piano is worth.
I have asked the sellers of the Yamaha for a serial number so I can look up how old it is, but they haven't gotten back to me. I just wasn't sure if either of those prices ($5,700 for the Yamaha and $8,500) was good prices, fair, bad....

On cars I can look up NADA and car reviews and get a good idea on what I am getting for what I am paying. I just don't know on Pianos.

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#2273455 - 05/09/14 09:07 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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What to Buy

Here is a link to the Piano Buyer page for the current Knabe you are mentioning. The price you are reporting is quite a discount so the piano may have been around a while but still be new.

http://www.pianobuyer.com/spring14/234.html

There is a lot of information in the guide that you can use. It is advertised on this page to the left. Start there.
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#2273522 - 05/10/14 01:14 AM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
michaelha Offline
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Originally Posted By: whattobuy
I am hoping to get a piano between 5'4" and 6' in size and I need to stay below $10,000. I am hoping to get a piano that I won't have to replace for a long time, if at all, but I also don't want to spend more money than a Piano is worth.


I'm not sure if those pianos would be the last stop.

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#2273794 - 05/10/14 09:34 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: supersport]
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Thanks, that link is helpful.

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#2273796 - 05/10/14 09:38 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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Michaelha, what other Pianos should I be looking at if you think those two shouldn't be the last stop? Utah doesn't seem to have many used (that is where I am looking) and most that I have found in that range of size are about $14,000 for new. I would love some other options, I'm just not finding them. Ideas? Thanks for the help by the way, I appreciate it from everyone posting. I haven't looked at Pianos before this, so I am definitely a newbie (and feeling like I am in over my head).

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#2273803 - 05/10/14 10:39 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
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For that budget I'd look for a used Yamaha C2 or higher, Kawai RX2 or higher, Boston (whatever the cm conversion for 5'10" is) for Japanese pianos. Yamaha & Kawai also make some lower end, made in China or Indonesia, baby grands. I'd skip those. For European check out Petrof, Estonia, Schimmel, those are good and not too expensive. ~ 10 years old is perfect, but like a broken record around here "always hire someone that calls them self a piano tech to look at it." Around 30 years you'll probably need to do some work unless they already did. $10K might take some professional haggling skills though, but it's possible.





Edited by michaelha (05/11/14 12:25 AM)

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#2273806 - 05/10/14 10:44 PM Re: Knabe-new or Yamaha-used. Which one to buy [Re: whattobuy]
Lizard Offline
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Registered: 09/26/04
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Loc: Honolulu
The Yamaha sounds like it may be old, have it checked out.
Pretty low price for the Knabe,does it have a new factory warranty? That would be a plus, also check the age.

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