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#2277463 - 05/17/14 12:53 PM remove action on old Mason BB
Nelson Muntz Offline
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My recently acquired BB is filthy and obviously hasn't been cleaned in a dog's age. I'd like to thoroughly clean it before the tech arrives for the tuning and inspection to review for any necessary maintenance.

I've removed the fallboard, front rail, etc. what happens to pull out the action?

Next question... what is the purpose of the wooden strip that runs across the action an inch or so in front of the keys? The strip is a half round piece of wood about 3/4 inch wide and rides above the keys. Looks like some sort of fence.

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#2277467 - 05/17/14 01:01 PM Re: remove action on old Mason BB [Re: Nelson Muntz]
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If your technician will be put off by a dirty action, you need someone else!

If you are not comfortable pulling out the action, clean what you can reach and wait for your technician to come. Why risk damaging it yourself? It is easy to damage if you do not know what to do, so wait at least until you can be shown the proper way to do it.

The keystop rail just keeps the keys from lifting up too far. It is mostly to keep the keys from getting scrambled when the piano is moved.
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#2277474 - 05/17/14 01:22 PM Re: remove action on old Mason BB [Re: Nelson Muntz]
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I haven't even mentioned the piano being dirty to the tech and I have no doubt he would be concerned in the slightest. Cleaning is entirely something I am choosing to do.

If there is a reasonable risk of damaging the action by removal then I won't. If I learn the proper method and, having worked on mechanisms my whole life, assess the procedure and determine the risk is slight then I will. The last thing I want to do is damage something.

Upon reflection I'd like to hear how the action comes out but I think I'll leave it in for the few days until the tech gets here.

So the keystop rail is a fence. Thanks, Bob.

#2277572 - 05/17/14 05:40 PM Re: remove action on old Mason BB [Re: Nelson Muntz]
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Have your tech clean it. You might break something and I'm sure he knows areas you wouldn't consider.

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#2277633 - 05/17/14 08:57 PM Re: remove action on old Mason BB [Re: Nelson Muntz]
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Why not wait so your tech can show you how to pull the action? It's easy to break hammer shanks while taking the action in and out.
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#2277812 - 05/18/14 08:45 AM Re: remove action on old Mason BB [Re: Nelson Muntz]
Nelson Muntz Offline
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Ok, 3 say no, none say go. Only a fool asks professionals for their advice and then ignores it when they all say not to do something. I'm not that desperate to remove the action.

Thank you for your opinions.

#2277813 - 05/18/14 08:57 AM Re: remove action on old Mason BB [Re: Nelson Muntz]
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4th pro there. I suggest telling him you want to help for the cleaning. Some can be done by you but not so much.

If the felts have been badly eaten by moths (under keys) be cautious with vacuuming. Most cleaning with a brush and vacuum.

You have to be show how to get the action out then dismont it ckean under keys and key pins.
That will cost you a little mire than tuning but you will learn much about your instrument. Worth the money in my opinion. But be sure to hire a tech and not only a tuner.
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