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#2265550 - 04/22/14 09:03 PM The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach
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I made the Italian Concert No.2 for the german mystery novel "Toedliche Kantaten" written by Sebastian Knauer in which this new Italian Concert appeared.
http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/italianconcerto2/index.html
Also an autograph was there.
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#2265551 - 04/22/14 09:05 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Could you explain what this is? It's not clear to me.
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#2265557 - 04/22/14 09:23 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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I translated "Toedliche Kantaten" into Japanese and published it in Japan. In the story there is the sound of playing the Italian Concert No.2.
The novel would hopefully be made into a movie. Then some real music work would be necessary. So I tried to make it, and here it is.

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#2265559 - 04/22/14 09:24 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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What is the Italian Concert No. 2?
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#2265584 - 04/22/14 10:07 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Many people play the Italian Concert which is vary famous. But then in this mystery the second one as No.2 was discovered. And nobody had known it. Besides the Italian Concert, the Anhalt-Koethen Concert, 200 cantatas and Hamburg Partita were written to be found.
Then murders occurred. It is a german mystery.
This Italian Concert No.2 has three movements. For the second movement there is a part of the autograph which I made.

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#2265585 - 04/22/14 10:10 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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So you've written a piece and pretended that it's a newly discovered Bach work so that you can use it in a murder mystery?

It's much too heavy and square to sound like Bach.
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#2265592 - 04/22/14 10:24 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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So you've written a piece and pretended that it's a newly discovered Bach work so that you can use it in a murder mystery? Yes, that's it. The author Sebastian Knauer was pleased to listened to it.
I should have arranged it much lighter. But the sound which is made through TruePianos has not been well tuned. Then you can play it using the score(PDF).
Iori Fujita

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#2265720 - 04/23/14 07:10 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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IF someone needs midi data of the Italian Concert No.2, please inform me.
mocfujita@aol.com

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#2266010 - 04/23/14 07:29 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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This is the image of the Italian Concert No.2, the second movement.
Iori Fujita

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#2266281 - 04/24/14 04:53 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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It's a pity that the recording you made is so bad.
I like the look of the score.
Can anyone compose music that would convince us that it was by Bach himself? I doubt it.

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#2266704 - 04/25/14 02:34 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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I also doubt that as you do.
No one can compose music that would convince you that it was by Bach.
The Italian Concert No.2 was composed by J.S.Bach.

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#2269040 - 04/30/14 10:22 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Thank many of you for accessing to my web page.

http://www.geocities.jp/imyfujita/italianconcerto2/index.html

Some of you don't like it as I imagine so.
But fortunately there are others who like it.
I am very happy about it.
My hope is that many Bach's works which are unknown to many people would be enjoyed.
Those works are in Cantatas, Only some of them are popular.
But there are more than 200 cantatas then there are more than one thousand pieces.
Iori Fujita


Edited by Iori Fujita (04/30/14 10:27 AM)

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#2270091 - 05/02/14 09:27 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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In looking at the music above it all seems nice enough, but I'm confused by the b# in bar 1. Don't you really mean c, it functions as a tonic chord (a minor). B# simply makes no sense there and in fact it would be hard to get to b# in A minor.

I listened to the recording which sounds very mechanical, but makes a strong case for your neo-baroque piece. All that's missing is the soli deo gloria that Bach would have put in the score. However, having listened to most of your piece I've come to the conclusion it's too long, Bach would have been more succinct.

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#2270818 - 05/04/14 03:00 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Thank you, Steve. B# is C, as you said. It is a mistake. I made this score using Musescore which is not a professional one. And I made the tune through midi. In midi data B# equals to C. Any way I could not find this. Thank you again.


Edited by Iori Fujita (05/04/14 03:00 AM)

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#2273583 - 05/10/14 09:08 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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MuseScore is great. Score plays tunes by itself.

http://musescore.com/user/34018/scores/187954

http://musescore.com/user/34018/scores/187957

http://musescore.com/user/34018/scores/187962

Here are scores and performances. Sound is not so good. But I can enjoy it.

Iori Fujita

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#2284804 - 06/02/14 05:36 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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It is a kind of transcription. But a new Italian Concerto. It is No.2.
I love Bach's music.

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#2284806 - 06/02/14 05:41 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Why did you bump the thread?
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#2285298 - 06/03/14 06:02 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Polyphonist]
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Is This your thread?

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#2285305 - 06/03/14 06:14 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Not that I know of.
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#2285307 - 06/03/14 06:21 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Polyphonist]
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Then what does it mean "Why did you bump the thread?"?
I don't understand.
I wrote what came to my mind at the time when it came to me.

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#2285328 - 06/03/14 07:32 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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I mean that it is not customary to bump up an old thread unless one has something very important to say.
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#2285345 - 06/03/14 08:11 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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I understand that what I am writing is not important to you. Then you don't have to respond to my reply. That's all. I don't want to bother you.

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#2285557 - 06/04/14 08:03 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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I set the thread as "the Italian Concert No.2". But according the Google Search, "the Italian Concert"o" No,2" is seemed to be adequate. In any case I can't change the thread naming.

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#2285637 - 06/04/14 11:14 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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That's right. "Concert" would only be appropriate if you were using the German spelling "Konzert."
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#2293978 - 06/23/14 05:14 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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The number of views is now over a thousand!
But I can't know how many people have listened to the Italian Concerto No.2.

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#2302046 - 07/14/14 01:09 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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A mail from the author of "Toedliche Kantaten";

May be You put it additionaly under: "BWV 971a" (971 is the original Italienisches Konzert)
Best greetings
Sebastian Knauer

So now there is "BWV 971a".

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#2302189 - 07/14/14 11:51 AM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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This is absurd. Would you stop bringing this old thread back up, please.
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#2302275 - 07/14/14 03:37 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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How can I change the name of this subject to "The Italian Concerto No.2 by J.S.Bach"?
Is it possible to do that?
Or is it better to make a new subject under this new title "The Italian Concerto No.2 by J.S.Bach"?

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#2302279 - 07/14/14 03:41 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Alert!
When I click in these pages, a strange web page shows up?
I am afraid that these pages are infected.

https://megaflix.net/Registration?&t...;ref=1405366697

I think it is dangerous.


Edited by Iori Fujita (07/14/14 03:44 PM)

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#2302282 - 07/14/14 04:02 PM Re: The Italian Concert No.2 by J.S.Bach [Re: Iori Fujita]
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Then why in the world would you post the link to others?
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