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#2295043 - 06/25/14 09:50 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Poly for a guy who's done 7300 POSTS in 1 year (is that a record here btw? HAHAHAH) I reckon you got about .01 % worth reading.

I know I'm right man, esp when it come to critiquing your music. You should bow down and take some lessons man, might do you some good to prostrate yourself from your self-proclaimed perch.

And your minion Joel following you around like a needy puppy, not sure if that's endearing or just annoying. Can't blame him, he's just a kid looking for a role model. Shame he picked you.

I recommend the both of you take a few months hiatus from this forum. Sounds like you guys are addicted to the sound of your own voice. I feel the narcissism oozing out of your inflated brains. Certainly doesn't help you learn or play music better.

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#2295055 - 06/25/14 10:15 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: MikeN]
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Originally Posted By: MikeN
Sings nineties Mariah Carey pseudo jazz tune," You'll only faaa-da in...to..the win-n-nnnnd."

whome Sorry, I couldn't resist.


That cover made the composer of the tune a TON of $$. Mariah Carey may be considered gauche, but damn that girl SELLS.

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#2295058 - 06/25/14 10:23 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Wow Poly! Didn't know you had this in ya! Very nice. I listened to it while I was having dinner and frankly, sometimes I forgot it was improvisation! Good job to the three of you.

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#2295065 - 06/25/14 10:36 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: The Wind]
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Originally Posted By: The Wind
Originally Posted By: MikeN
Sings nineties Mariah Carey pseudo jazz tune," You'll only faaa-da in...to..the win-n-nnnnd."

whome Sorry, I couldn't resist.


That cover made the composer of the tune a TON of $$. Mariah Carey may be considered gauche, but damn that girl SELLS.


True dat. I'm sure Russ is/was rollin in it. ha Ironically, that song wasn't even a single on one of her least successful albums.


Edited by MikeN (06/25/14 11:18 PM)
Edit Reason: typo

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#2295077 - 06/25/14 10:58 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: MikeN]
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Originally Posted By: MikeN


True dat. I'm sure Russ is/was rollin in it. ha Ironically, that song wasn't even a single one one of her least successful albums.


according to Wikipedia, that album "Emotions" went 4x Platinum in the USA alone. Worldwide sales of 8 million.

Not too shabby, Ol Russ was laughing to the bank. Royalties baby!

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#2295234 - 06/26/14 09:18 AM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Re: the improvisation styles: without theme(s), can sound more like "noodling", a la Hoffman interludes and Cziffra pre-concert warm-ups. Themes, please.
Yes, I'm sure all the jazz greats who played "progressive" jazz were geniuses, but I prefer Brubeck (often derided by jazz DJs as "Richard Rogers" music).

Poly's sixth chords and lush harmonies are present just as in his compositions, kind of like Rachmaninoff: even Rachmaninoff's Bach transcriptions sound like Rachmaninoff. I'm thinking of Manfred Clynes and his computer that detects a composer's unique "fingerprint" as a wave/shape that is the same for any composition by the same composer.

Oh, and "we" would like very much to hear some of that Wangian technique by the longest contributor, used in recordings of standard repertoire by 1) Chopin, 2) Rachmaninoff, 3) Bach, 4) Schumann, 5) Ravel, 6) Scriabin, 7) Godowsky, pretty much in that order.

And before y'all do this again (and "we" do want you to do it again, please!), have (one of) the contributors watch Dudley Moore's video of the almost-never-ending Beethoven Over the River Kwai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GazlqD4mLvw

Probably won't help..."we" like him anyway.


Edited by doctor S (06/26/14 09:19 AM)
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#2295352 - 06/26/14 02:31 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: doctor S]
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I'm a little confused by your post, doctor S, but...

Originally Posted By: doctor S
Re: the improvisation styles: without theme(s), can sound more like "noodling", a la Hoffman interludes and Cziffra pre-concert warm-ups. Themes, please.

...my improvisation does contain several good themes. Did you listen to the whole thing?
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#2295381 - 06/26/14 03:58 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Yes! The whole thing! And it's doggone wonderful!! But me of little brain needs more obvious themes (kind of like a goldfish gaping at the control panel wall of a nuclear power plant), "we" would like a "melody" (ie theme and variations??). Just a request for more. (a la Oliver, the musical..."More?!? You want MORE?!?")
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#2295385 - 06/26/14 04:09 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Still a bit confused. My improvisation is stuffed with melodies. For example:

16:04
17:59
23:23
25:04
25:35
29:03

to name just a few of the best ones, the last two being the finale and coda themes respectively.
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#2295433 - 06/26/14 06:01 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Agree. Themes. (Did I mention I (the goldfish) really, really liked it/them?)
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#2295437 - 06/26/14 06:07 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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I'm still very confused. Now you're saying you did like the themes?
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#2295440 - 06/26/14 06:15 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Yes, I like/liked the whole enchilada. (And goldfish could appreciate them better if you played them more than once!)
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#2295471 - 06/26/14 07:32 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Rescued! (With Thanks to Mark Polishook!)

Ignore everything in my previous posts (except where I said I liked everything).

See: http://mic.com/articles/91329/science-sh...everybody-elses

So all 3 collaborators must have enormous brains. (Much bigger than me...I can barely chord Happy Birthday to save my life!). And the biggest contributor must have the biggest brain. Even bigger for being "classical" improvisors. With Wangian technique.
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#2295495 - 06/26/14 08:05 PM Re: Improvisation "e-cital" [Re: FSO]
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Doc S ... Glad I was able to help smile
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