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#2300132 - 07/09/14 07:03 AM Millennium III action
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Registered: 09/01/13
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When a jack in a ABS Carbon action isn't exactly placed in the center of the whippen, can I then use the same way to place it in the middle as in the case of a wooden action?

Many thanks for your reply,

Frans ter Beek

I mean the following method. Is it possible to use that also in a Carbon ABS action without cause any damage?
I have a Kawai rx-2 178 grand piano.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unE5-04UvcM



Edited by Berlicum (07/10/14 05:55 AM)

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#2300724 - 07/10/14 01:00 PM Re: Millennium III action [Re: Berlicum]
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In my former post above the word Whippen must be of course: repetition lever

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#2300731 - 07/10/14 01:17 PM Re: Millennium III action [Re: Berlicum]
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I have no idea, but it doesn't work well for the wooden parts, so I would assume it wouldn't be a good idea for the MIIIs either. It will center the jack, indeed, but it does so by bending the centerpin on the side supported. That bend can then have dire consequences on the pining frictions. I'd look for what is actually causing the problem, and then fix/replace that issue.
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#2300939 - 07/11/14 12:00 AM Re: Millennium III action [Re: Berlicum]
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You might want to PM KawaiDon here on PW.

With the composite W,N&G whippens you can gently heat the parts to permanently "warp" them away from interference with each other.
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#2301419 - 07/12/14 07:40 AM Re: Millennium III action [Re: Berlicum]
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A443 en Ed McMorrow, many thanks for your replies.

Frans ter Beek.

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#2301895 - 07/13/14 03:32 PM Re: Millennium III action [Re: Berlicum]
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Yes, you can use the standard methods for centering the jack. Tapping works, but the more finicky and precise method is to remove the wippen, replace the center pin with a new one, then bend the pin slightly before pushing it in all the way.

Then you press the pin in until the little bend is just inside the bushing, and rotate the pin in the jack until the alignment is correct. <snip> <snip> both sides of the pin, and it will be very accurately spaced.
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#2302682 - 07/15/14 05:10 PM Re: Millennium III action [Re: Berlicum]
Berlicum Offline
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Many thanks for your clear explanation!

Frans ter Beek.

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