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#2300135 - 07/09/14 07:08 AM Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings
Abby Pianoman Online   content
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Registered: 07/07/14
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Loc: Ibiza, Balearic Islands, Spain
Lower the Topboard to 1.
Raise Low EQ to 10, Hi Eq to -3, MID 1 to +3, Mid 2 also +3. 
Touch: Heavy. Voicing: Dynamic. Hammer delay:2.
String Resonance:8, Damper Resonance:3, Damper noise:5.
Reverb : Concert Hall. Depth 32, Time 3010ms.
EFX: Autopan, Type: Classic, Depth:24, Speed 0.79 Hz. The EFX Low Eq 0, High Eq 5.Key off eff: 5.
Fallback Noise 5.
The rest are the normal factory settings.

And try playing around with Hammer Delay. Factory settings for Hammer Delay are 1. But a Hammer delay of between 2 and 4, regardless if you're playing Pianissimo or Rocking may give you a pleasant surprise.

Maybe others on this Forum could add their settings or opinion on this subject. These are my personal settings and I'm still working to improve them. But they provide a starting point.
I started off with tips I got from others, added them together, input some of my own, and ended up with this.


Edited by Abby Pianoman (07/09/14 12:27 PM)

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#2300137 - 07/09/14 07:19 AM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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A higher Damper Resonance will create a balooning or booming sound on the F3 note. That's why I lowered it to 3.


Edited by Abby Pianoman (07/09/14 12:25 PM)

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#2312372 - 08/07/14 10:26 AM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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The setup above is excellent. I am using this with yamaha hs5 speakers and hs8s sub. The speakers are on angled stands on either side of the keyboard with the tweeter slightly above the top of the keyboard. The speaker setup is:
** hs5: room control and high trim off, 6db for level
** sub: low pass off, high cut 90, 1 tick below center for level

My only changes to the setup are:
**Low EQ: 3, Hi Eq: 2, MID 1: -1, Mid 2: -1 Also change the bandwidth to m1: 350 and m2: 850 (the speakers have a lot of built in mid, and the sub produces a lot of base)
**Reverb : Room. Depth 32, Time 1297ms (the only difference I found in the hall vs room vs lounge is the echo effect, which I didn't like in a room.)

This setup in a medium sized room gives a very realistic grand piano sound. The auto pan and dynamic response transform the keyboard.

I also made the octave and amp changes in the sound setup:
Octave: on level: 60
Dca decay, Dca release: 2

An octave above 70 makes the volume too high.


Edited by Bill Jacobs (08/07/14 08:31 PM)

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#2312438 - 08/07/14 01:05 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
Abby Pianoman Online   content
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Thanks Bill.

Didn't see this before.
Will try it on my next gig.

Regards.

Abby

PS: I have lowered my low EQ to 5. The 10 I was using was too much.

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#2312657 - 08/07/14 08:52 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
Kawai James Online   content
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Interesting stuff, thank you for sharing chaps. How about some recorded examples? wink

By the way, are you applying the Autopan EFX to acoustic piano sounds?

Cheers,
James
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#2312675 - 08/07/14 09:41 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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It would be very worthwhile for other MP11 owners to try out the individual 88 note volume adjustment in SYSTEM/ UserEdit/ KeyVolume settings. It is easy and balances the volume wonderfully by reducing the volume in the lower section of the keyboard, and raising the mid and high notes.
Without messing about too much with the EQ.

Then there's the Touch Curve in : SYSTEM/ UserEdit/ TouchCurve.
Which lets you play while it senses your touch dynamics.
Which you can save as Sys.User 1 to 5.

Great stuff.

I've done all that and now this MP11 is a meaner, leaner,gigging machine.

I'm pretty , pretty, pretty pleased right now with this board.

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#2312685 - 08/07/14 10:00 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Kawai James]
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I'm applying the Autopan with a Depth of 12 and low EQ at 2 and high EQ at 1.

Speed is at 1.03Hz

It is a discreet Autopan which works wonderfully on the Concert Grand for me.

It accentuates the string vibration/resonance and gives a better overall Acoustic Piano sound. Especially with the lid closed or open on 1.
The closed lid or slightly opened gives a richer sound.

I find that opening the lid wider creates a bit of a harsh sound.

I'm still editing the sound every day, but I now name the edits and save them to USB before starting on a new edit.

They're getting to be quite a collection.

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#2312695 - 08/07/14 10:58 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
Kawai James Online   content
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Originally Posted By: Abby Pianoman
I'm applying the Autopan with a Depth of 12 and low EQ at 2 and high EQ at 1.

Speed is at 1.03Hz

It is a discreet Autopan which works wonderfully on the Concert Grand for me.

It accentuates the string vibration/resonance and gives a better overall Acoustic Piano sound. Especially with the lid closed or open on 1.
The closed lid or slightly opened gives a richer sound.


Interesting...I'll have to give that a try!

Cheers,
James
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#2312833 - 08/08/14 08:02 AM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Bill Jacobs]
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Funny thing. Before having read your post I had also lowered the low EQ to 5, High to 2, Mid 1 to 1, Mid 2 to1.

I play around with the Low EQ a bit, depending on whether I play in a room or if I do an outdoor concert.
Playing outdoors requires a higher low EQ setting.

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#2313079 - 08/08/14 04:37 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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Registered: 04/18/14
Posts: 80
Loc: deep in the woods
Originally Posted By: Abby Pianoman
I'm applying the Autopan with a Depth of 12 and low EQ at 2 and high EQ at 1.

Speed is at 1.03Hz

It is a discreet Autopan which works wonderfully on the Concert Grand for me.

It accentuates the string vibration/resonance and gives a better overall Acoustic Piano sound. Especially with the lid closed or open on 1.
The closed lid or slightly opened gives a richer sound.

I find that opening the lid wider creates a bit of a harsh sound.

I'm still editing the sound every day, but I now name the edits and save them to USB before starting on a new edit.

They're getting to be quite a collection.


I have tried Abby's piano settings and found them to be quite workable...after I turned off the Autopan. To me, the Autopan made the piano sound out of tune and just a bit weird altogether. As soon as I turned off the Autopan, the piano tuned itself up and sounded good!

So, to each his own.

Abby, when I sent you my settings, I forgot to mention that there is a custom 88-key volume curve selected, which definitely impacts bass response (to which you said you had made some adjustments).

The problem is that although the user 88-key volume curve will show as being selected, it won't really be active on your instrument because it's drawing on settings that are set in the System menu. The System Menu settings are not included in a single Setup file, which is what we exchanged. If you also had my custom 88-key individual note volume curve active, your need to make adjustments to the bass would probably have been different.

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#2313237 - 08/08/14 11:54 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Savante]
Abby Pianoman Online   content
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Thanks Savante.

I love your settings and do not feel any need to change anything. They sound great on my rig. Great work.

I make subtle adjustments of Bass or Treble on my mixer.
But they are mainly to do with the acoustics of the different venues I play at.

The Autopan in the settings I sent you was on depth 20 or 24.
Which I later found was a bit too much. A depth of 10 or 12 is what I use now.
Please feel free to suggest any other useful Effect.

I think the default effect was Enhacer. But I'm not sure.

Regards.

Abby.

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#2323084 - Today at 11:12 AM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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Registered: 11/22/06
Posts: 104
Loc: Lagos, Portugal
Just got the mp11, the keuboard is excelent but so far cant get a satisfatory sound, can you guys send me a couple of your user settings? Would make my life easier!

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#2323104 - Today at 12:06 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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Registered: 11/30/12
Posts: 512
Loc: Connecticut, USA
And my MP11 arrives tomorrow. Yipee!

I too would like to get started on the right foot with settings. I will start off working with Abby's settings that were kindly shared. I wish there was an MP11 user group, even a facebook group, where settings can be easily shared.

I am very excited.
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    #2323118 - Today at 12:44 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
    Abby Pianoman Online   content
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    Registered: 07/07/14
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    Loc: Ibiza, Balearic Islands, Spain
    Scorpio, I tried to start a thread dedicated to MP11 owners and potential buyers, similar to the thriving MP7 thread I see on this forum, but it ended up as a thread about humidifiers. I will upload my old and current piano settings as well as setups to you when you receive your MP11.

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    #2323156 - Today at 02:17 PM Re: Kawai MP11. My EQ And Other Virtual Technician Settings [Re: Abby Pianoman]
    The Emperor Offline
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    Registered: 11/22/06
    Posts: 104
    Loc: Lagos, Portugal
    I was extremely disappointed with the default sound but messing with the settings really brought it to life.
    Really sounding nice in the headphones. Dont know if was the autopan that did it, but the sound is perfect for my jazz jams.


    Edited by The Emperor (Today at 02:17 PM)

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