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#2300264 - 07/09/14 01:37 PM Kawai ES100 vs Casio Privia PX-350 MIDI Connections
Giancarlo Robles Offline
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I'm about to make a decision on my first piano and I'm torn between these two. However, I'm pretty confused on how the MIDI works. I'd like to use my piano using a DAW and some piano VSTs but I noticed that the Privia has both USB and MIDI IN/OUT connections while the Kawai only has MIDI IN/OUT. My question is: are the MIDI connections slower than USB transmitting data? And does getting a MIDI to USB adapter to connect to a pc change anything?

Also, any opinions on these two pianos? I'd like to know what you guys think in general. I will be using the piano mostly at home but I will be going back and forth to church as well once I become better at the piano. Thanks a lot!
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#2300278 - 07/09/14 02:01 PM Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio Privia PX-350 MIDI Connections [Re: Giancarlo Robles]
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Hello Grobles, I must confess that I don't know the relation between speeds between the two options you mention, but anyway the latencies associated to midi are neglectable.
In my opinion Casio's DP have, in the same price range, more sounds and functionality but Kawai's have better feel. By the way I prefer Kawai sound.

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#2300293 - 07/09/14 02:56 PM Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio Privia PX-350 MIDI Connections [Re: Giancarlo Robles]
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As an aside, if your focus is on DAW/VST use, I would look at the PX-5S over the PX-350, because you can set its knobs, sliders, and buttons to control your software instruments. And on the other hand, if you don't care about that, you could save money by getting the PX-150 instead of the 350, since as a VST controller, there is little advantage to the 350, except maybe being able to feed the VST piano into the on-board speakers.

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#2300311 - 07/09/14 03:36 PM Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio Privia PX-350 MIDI Connections [Re: Giancarlo Robles]
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Registered: 02/04/14
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There is no difference except that with UBS you don't have to buy a USB midi interface and with midi in/out you can control another instrument, such as a second keyboard, or plug directly into an audio interface to save a UBS port on your pc in case you use an external audio interface. I like to have both options so that I can connect to 2 things without disconnecting and reconnecting (such as ipad and pc/interface at the same time).
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#2301123 - 07/11/14 01:21 PM Re: Kawai ES100 vs Casio Privia PX-350 MIDI Connections [Re: Giancarlo Robles]
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USB use higher speed, but the MIDI speed is high enough.

The MIDI ports needs MIDI-USB adapter, but some are quite cheap (5-30 euros depending of no-brand/brand). Price difference between keyboards are likely to be higher.

One interesting thing about real MIDI ports is the optical isolation, it could be usefull if the PC audio is also plugged in a piano audio input (a USB connection could create ground loop causing noise).
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