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#2303543 - 07/17/14 11:05 PM An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music
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It's been many, many years now, but I feel the need to apologize to Rich G. Years ago, I was working as a Concert & Artists rep at one of Cunningham's.... let's just say... competitors. It seems as though they were going through a back & forth battle dealing with restorations of a certain name brand of piano, and I was duped into going to Cunningham and trying to gather some dirt. I was young, naive, and needing that paycheck, so I did what I was told.

I was also told that everyone and everything at Cunningham's was pure evil. I have been on this forum long enough to see what good Rich does for everyone here, and all his customers. I now know that was I was being fed was a load of rubbish, and for believing that, and doing what I did, I'm sorry.

I shortly left that place of employment, and went into the field of music education, where I am still today. I enjoy reading through these postings every day or two, and just felt like, after all these years, I needed to get this off my chest.

I feel much better now.... Cheers!
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#2303555 - 07/18/14 12:12 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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I was also told that everyone and everything at Cunningham's was pure evil.

I was about to take a bite of ice cream when I read this and nearly spit it out. He is such a friendly and nice guy it seems impossible that opinion could come from a personal acquaintance.

I'm glad you could get that off your chest, and I hope we can all get along! We all love pianos, after all.
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#2303618 - 07/18/14 06:55 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Wow, it's rare to see/hear a statement like this these days of "dog-eat-dog" economics/politics and the survival of the fittest, or strongest; especially in the piano business. My hat is off to you, mahermusic. smile

All the best,

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#2303639 - 07/18/14 08:47 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Wow,

Thank you for that mahermusic. It is totally unnecessary and totally appreciated!

Originally Posted By: mahermusic
Years ago, I was working as a Concert & Artists rep at one of Cunningham's.... let's just say... competitors. It seems as though they were going through a back & forth battle dealing with restorations of a certain name brand of piano...


Ah yes, it is clear to me now. I think the local dealer for that brand liked to "educate" their staff with "facts".
- we could not rebuild a piano
- anything we touched was somehow tainted
- etc.

The fact was that we scared him. I get that.

Mahermusic, if you are still in the Philadelphia area, I invite you to stop by, take another tour, and see what's cooking here these days. I think you might be impressed.

Thank you again for the post.
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#2303655 - 07/18/14 09:47 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Friends:

Well, it doesn't take much to "fill in the blank."

When I was a young and oh so innocent student at the Curtis ('68-'71), the local S&S dealer, whose name will live in infamy, specialised in selling new, virtually unplayable Astoria-made pianos and in displaying rebuilt instruments, all sizes from S through D, including the occasional C, that were total horror-shows. They had some concert dept. Ds that set the standard for ugly and unplayable. Sadly, there is a truly wonderful recording of the Rach 3 with Ashkenazy and Ormandy that was made on one of those pianos. The performance is world-class but the piano tone disappoints at every turn.

Is it any wonder they were afraid of Cunningham's ? Rich, your hard work and devotion to an ideal have reaped well-earned rewards, not least of which is the admiration of many, many pianists.

Karl Watson,
Staten Island, NY

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#2303715 - 07/18/14 01:25 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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It's funny because in the UK, there is the brand that reigns supreme on the concert platform (guess which one), and they do say in their London showroom that pianos rebuilt by their factory are the only 100 percent authentic rebuilds. They have said however, that it's not that other rebuilders do BAD work, it's just no longer 'authentic'.

They also say some things like, the only pianos worth spending money on rebuilding is their brand, and I've even heard one of them say quite seriously, that they are the only manufacturer making 9' concert grands. When I challenged that, it was changed to 'making 9' concert grands that regularly appear on concert stages throughout the world'.

But in the UK it would actually be illegal for them to say 'We do good work, but X shop does bad work' and they could find themselves in bother if anyone bothered to take them to task on it (which used to be unlikely but the UK is starting to get a bit trigger happy with litigation....)

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#2303735 - 07/18/14 02:26 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Wow, I spit out my ice-cream too......and I wasn't eating any! What guts, bravo and well done. In my line of work, seemingly nobody ever wants to take responsibility for their actions. It's always someone else who should shoulder the blame for their problems and issues.

Equally impressive were the warm words from Rich. Again, well done guys, shows real character. Totally unexpected and refreshing to witness......blob.
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#2303739 - 07/18/14 02:30 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Karl Watson]
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Originally Posted By: Karl Watson
Friends:

Well, it doesn't take much to "fill in the blank."

When I was a young and oh so innocent student at the Curtis ('68-'71), the local S&S dealer, whose name will live in infamy, specialised in selling new, virtually unplayable Astoria-made pianos and in displaying rebuilt instruments, all sizes from S through D, including the occasional C, that were total horror-shows. They had some concert dept. Ds that set the standard for ugly and unplayable. Sadly, there is a truly wonderful recording of the Rach 3 with Ashkenazy and Ormandy that was made on one of those pianos. The performance is world-class but the piano tone disappoints at every turn.

Is it any wonder they were afraid of Cunningham's ? Rich, your hard work and devotion to an ideal have reaped well-earned rewards, not least of which is the admiration of many, many pianists.

Karl Watson,
Staten Island, NY



YEGADS! If anything, this is an understatement, Karl!

Ghastly sound from that piano. I only had to listen to the first 60 seconds or so of the first movement.

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#2303767 - 07/18/14 04:05 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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I'll say it again, and every chance I get:

"Cunningham Pianos - the NEW American Standard"
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#2303771 - 07/18/14 04:19 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Music Me]
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I'll say it again, and every chance I get:

"Cunningham Pianos - the NEW American Standard"



They sell pianos, not plumbing fixtures!
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#2303776 - 07/18/14 04:43 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Does Rich sell Kohler of Kohler?
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#2303809 - 07/18/14 06:29 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Rich -

So sorry a few spoiled what I was trying to say. You personally know my feelings regarding Cunningham Pianos AND Cunningham Piano as as a rebuilder and retailer. I personally think it stinks (refraining from using a more derogatory phrase - I'm better than that) when others try to erase positive sentiments or compliments with their attempt at humor. Its one of the reasons I really shy away from posting anything on these blogs. I DO have a sense of humor - but, I was attempting to give you props in my own terms.

See you soon,
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#2303834 - 07/18/14 08:04 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Originally Posted By: mahermusic
It's been many, many years now, but I feel the need to apologize to Rich G. Years ago, I was working as a Concert & Artists rep at one of Cunningham's.... let's just say... competitors. It seems as though they were going through a back & forth battle dealing with restorations of a certain name brand of piano, and I was duped into going to Cunningham and trying to gather some dirt. I was young, naive, and needing that paycheck, so I did what I was told.


Would you mind sharing the location (even the state) of the competitor? I may have a piano rebuilt and I am a piano teacher as well. You can PM me if you'd like. Thanks!

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#2303835 - 07/18/14 08:05 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Barbara - Relax!

I don't think that anyone thought your post was anything but positive. However, Rich has a sense of humor and I trust he didn't take the good nature interjections as other than light banter.

And, if his head swells too much, you might notice a little gray!

laugh
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#2303836 - 07/18/14 08:10 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: chasingrainbows]
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Would you mind sharing the location (even the state) of the competitor? I may have a piano rebuilt and I am a piano teacher as well. You can PM me if you'd like. Thanks!

Um Chopin Fantasie,

Do you really want to know about the competitor? I think most would agree that a visit to see Rich, co-owner of Cunningham Piano Company in Philadelphia, would be well worth your time if you are in that area. They have one of the finest rebuilding shops in the USA.
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#2304512 - 07/20/14 06:46 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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They also sell wonderful new pianos, as I well know based on my own experience.

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#2304539 - 07/20/14 08:25 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rank Piano Amateur]
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Originally Posted By: Rank Piano Amateur
They also sell wonderful new pianos, as I well know based on my own experience.


Ditto!
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#2304546 - 07/20/14 08:39 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rickster]
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Originally Posted By: Rickster
Wow, it's rare to see/hear a statement like this these days of "dog-eat-dog" economics/politics and the survival of the fittest, or strongest; especially in the piano business. My hat is off to you, mahermusic. smile


Cup half full … cup half empty. Although the confession is cathartic, the offense points to an industry rife with serious ethical issues. And this is, of course, not the first example.
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#2304651 - 07/21/14 02:22 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Piano*Dad]
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It's been many years now, but I too feel the need to apologize to Rich G.

Years ago, I was on holiday...let's just say... somewhere in Spain. I was eating lunch at a third-rate sidewalk cafe when I snatched the Cinzno ashtray off the table and pocketed it. Then I left inconspicuously without paying for my meal. The next morning I stole the bathmat from my hotel room and checked out hurriedly with the bathmat wrapped around my head to disguise my identity.

I know now that those actions were very wrong and I am so-o-o bummed out about the whole thing. But at that time I was young, naive, and hungry. I hadn't eaten in 3 weeks. I desperately needed that mat for my bathroom and I needed the ashtray too. I smoked like a chimney in those days and my crushed butts were all over the floor. I was down on my luck and just couldn't afford to pay for those items.

Shortly thereafter I left the city where I was staying and took up residence in a Benedictine Abbey where I spent the next 36 years cleaning the latrines and cleansing my soul.

Rich,

I am so-o-o sorry for any harm my actions night have done to you personally or to your business interests.

Auntie T

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#2304657 - 07/21/14 02:41 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: turandot]
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Originally Posted By: turandot
Years ago, I was on holiday...let's just say... somewhere in Spain. I was eating lunch at a third-rate sidewalk cafe when I snatched the Cinzno ashtray off the table and pocketed it. Then I left inconspicuously without paying for my meal. The next morning I stole the bathmat from my hotel room and checked out hurriedly with the bathmat wrapped around my head to disguise my identity.

I know now that those actions were very wrong and I am so-o-o bummed out about the whole thing. But at that time I was young, naive, and hungry. I hadn't eaten in 3 weeks. I desperately needed that mat for my bathroom and I needed the ashtray too. I smoked like a chimney in those days and my crushed butts were all over the floor. I was down on my luck and just couldn't afford to pay for those items.

Shortly thereafter I left the city where I was staying and took up residence in a Benedictine Abbey where I spent the next 36 years cleaning the latrines and cleansing my soul.

TMI
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#2304724 - 07/21/14 08:26 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: turandot]
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Originally Posted By: turandot
It's been many years now, but I too feel the need to apologize to Rich G.

Years ago, I was on holiday...let's just say... somewhere in Spain. I was eating lunch at a third-rate sidewalk cafe when I snatched the Cinzno ashtray off the table and pocketed it. Then I left inconspicuously without paying for my meal. The next morning I stole the bathmat from my hotel room and checked out hurriedly with the bathmat wrapped around my head to disguise my identity.

I know now that those actions were very wrong and I am so-o-o bummed out about the whole thing. But at that time I was young, naive, and hungry. I hadn't eaten in 3 weeks. I desperately needed that mat for my bathroom and I needed the ashtray too. I smoked like a chimney in those days and my crushed butts were all over the floor. I was down on my luck and just couldn't afford to pay for those items.

Shortly thereafter I left the city where I was staying and took up residence in a Benedictine Abbey where I spent the next 36 years cleaning the latrines and cleansing my soul.

Rich,

I am so-o-o sorry for any harm my actions night have done to you personally or to your business interests.

Auntie T



I know your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek with this post Auntie T. I am missing your point, but... I accept your apology?

Also, Mahermusic (the OP here), you are not accepting PMs and I would like to get in touch with you.

Please feel free to use the contact info. in my sig.
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#2305080 - 07/21/14 09:04 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: turandot]
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Originally Posted By: turandot
It's been many years now, but I too feel the need to apologize to Rich G.

Years ago, I was on holiday...let's just say... somewhere in Spain. I was eating lunch at a third-rate sidewalk cafe when I snatched the Cinzno ashtray off the table and pocketed it. Then I left inconspicuously without paying for my meal. The next morning I stole the bathmat from my hotel room and checked out hurriedly with the bathmat wrapped around my head to disguise my identity.

I know now that those actions were very wrong and I am so-o-o bummed out about the whole thing. But at that time I was young, naive, and hungry. I hadn't eaten in 3 weeks. I desperately needed that mat for my bathroom and I needed the ashtray too. I smoked like a chimney in those days and my crushed butts were all over the floor. I was down on my luck and just couldn't afford to pay for those items.

Shortly thereafter I left the city where I was staying and took up residence in a Benedictine Abbey where I spent the next 36 years cleaning the latrines and cleansing my soul.

Rich,

I am so-o-o sorry for any harm my actions night have done to you personally or to your business interests.

Auntie T



Man...this is cryptic. Is this like one of those things that describe where a hidden treasure is buried if we are able to decipher just what you are talking about?
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#2305083 - 07/21/14 09:07 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini

Also, Mahermusic (the OP here), you are not accepting PMs


Huh! I never knew that... Should be fixed now.
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#2305094 - 07/21/14 09:40 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini

Also, Mahermusic ... I would like to get in touch with you.


You see, we need to know who 'Guido' should pay a visit to...
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#2305101 - 07/21/14 10:06 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: phacke]
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Originally Posted By: phacke
Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini

Also, Mahermusic ... I would like to get in touch with you.


You see, we need to know who 'Guido' should pay a visit to...


Keep your eyes peeled for this guy-> smokin cursing
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#2305105 - 07/21/14 10:17 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Retsacnal]
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Originally Posted By: Retsacnal
Originally Posted By: phacke
Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini

Also, Mahermusic ... I would like to get in touch with you.


You see, we need to know who 'Guido' should pay a visit to...


Keep your eyes peeled for this guy-> smokin cursing


I don't know how, but somehow everybody here knows my Uncle Guido. And yet they play piano and they can type, so they most likely still have most of their fingers.

Interesting...
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#2305128 - 07/21/14 10:59 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Is that Uncle Guido who is always carrying a violin case?
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#2305137 - 07/21/14 11:16 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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That's odd....I keep getting PM's from someone in the "cement" business....




(had to say it...)
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#2305141 - 07/21/14 11:24 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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Originally Posted By: mahermusic

Man...this is cryptic. Is this like one of those things that describe where a hidden treasure is buried if we are able to decipher just what you are talking about?


Sorry, no treasure Maher.

I was looking through the list of threads here late Sunday to see if there was anything of interest. Your thread caught my eve because of the unusual title.

Reading you opening post, I couldn't understand why you would feel a necessity to apologize, especially many years later in such a public style. Cross-shopping -- sending an unknown face to the competitor's place -- is kind of a fact of life in the industry. I don't know what kind of dirt can reasonably be gathered though because if the mole is identified, he'll get nothing. If he's not identified, he'll be perceived as a consumer. It's not easy to gather dirt that way either.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but in my opinion carrying guilt around for years for the breach of ethics you described is about as necessary as Jean Valjean seeking out Inspector Javert to confess that he stole the frig'n bread and asking to be executed.

The comment about Rich being pure evil cracked me up. In my experience no piano dealer is pure evil and no piano dealer is pure gold either, even Saint Rich.

Anyway, congratulations for having such a worthwhile career after you exited the biz.

Keep the faith
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#2305278 - 07/22/14 10:17 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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ca·thar·sis

/ke'THärsis/

noun

1. the process of releasing, and thereby providing relief from, strong or repressed emotions.

synonyms: emotional release, relief, release, venting
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#2305732 - 07/23/14 02:06 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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di·dac·tic adjective \dī-ˈdak-tik, də-\ adj.
: designed or intended to teach people something

—used to describe someone or something that tries to teach something (such as proper or moral behavior) in a way that is annoying or unwanted


Synonyms
pedantic, preachy, donnish, pedagogic.
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#2305856 - 07/23/14 10:24 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
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KurtZ,

That sounds like a description for some of my... not so subtle poetry... you know, the ones in didactic pentameter?

Hey Turandot...nice to see you, man. I'm back at Blossom Festival with Cleveland Orchestra in four weeks! (the previous sentence was a stellar example of unsaintly and blatant self-promotion grin)

BC


Edited by Beacon Chris (07/23/14 10:24 AM)
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#2306476 - 07/24/14 01:54 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: turandot]
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Originally Posted By: turandot

Cross-shopping -- sending an unknown face to the competitor's place -- is kind of a fact of life in the industry. I don't know what kind of dirt can reasonably be gathered though because if the mole is identified, he'll get nothing. If he's not identified, he'll be perceived as a consumer. It's not easy to gather dirt that way either.


I am not speaking for Mahermusic, but I think I know where he is coming from. This competing dealer, like some, trains his salespeople and checks his facts later... if at all. They usually spend more time talking about others than themselves in a typical presentation.

Today his salespeople tell customers that the Matchless Cunningham is a terrible piano that we order from the cheapest supplier with no name and then put a decal with our name on it.

Yes it is ridiculous and yes I feel that most do not believe it. But some do.
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#2306486 - 07/24/14 02:19 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rich Galassini]
taeykwak Offline
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Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini


I am not speaking for Mahermusic, but I think I know where he is coming from. This competing dealer, like some, trains his salespeople and checks his facts later... if at all. They usually spend more time talking about others than themselves in a typical presentation.

Today his salespeople tell customers that the Matchless Cunningham is a terrible piano that we order from the cheapest supplier with no name and then put a decal with our name on it.

Yes it is ridiculous and yes I feel that most do not believe it. But some do.


When I visited the store, which it will remain nameless, I heard the same thing. When the comparison was brought up when I was shopping for a piano, I politely corrected the sales person at that store that what he/she was telling me was not true. I told them repeatedly, I personally tried the Cunningham Piano, their sound rivals or if not better than more than 75% of the piano they have in stock.

Once they realized that I am speaking the truth and my arguments had some meat in them, they backed down. I wish I can play them again.

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#2306614 - 07/24/14 04:59 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: taeykwak]
Karl Watson Offline
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Friends:

For those of you who have NOT played one of the new Cunningham grands, I can attest that during a brief visit to the shop and showrooms some ten months ago, I played a new 5'11" grand that bore no resemblance to any other Asian piano of my acquaintance. It had beauty, authority, colour and a touching, lyric quality. Like so many other modern pianos it was a feast for the eye. However, the real difference came in the playing and the hearing. The new Matchless Cunningham has its own distinctive and very artistic tone.

There are other, much more experienced and able hands/ears amongst this forum who have had the same experience.

Karl Watson,
Staten Island, NY

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#2306729 - 07/24/14 09:57 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
Music Me Offline
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Ditto, Karl!

I OWN a Matchless Cunningham Parlour Grand.

And I absolutely love it! It sings!
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#2306768 - 07/25/14 12:04 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Rich Galassini]
turandot Offline
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Loc: torrance, CA
Originally Posted By: Rich Galassini

I am not speaking for Mahermusic,


Nor do you need to.

Various opinions of the Matchless Cunningham have nothing to do with Mahler's public apology. My point was simply that the guy shouldn't be beating himself up for acquiescing to participate in a common industry practice "many many year"s ago. .

Mahler didn't introduce Matchless Cunningham pianos into his topic. The were irrelevant since the incident he referred to happened "many many years" ago when there were no new Matchless Cunninghams on the market..

I suppose I should congratulate you for keeping a spent thread alive by inserting your house brand of piano into it and bringing the horrible practices of your competitor up to date.

But I won't.



Edited by turandot (07/25/14 02:20 AM)

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#2306850 - 07/25/14 08:21 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: turandot]
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Originally Posted By: turandot


Mahler didn't introduce Matchless Cunningham pianos into his topic.


Hahaha.... why THANK YOU!!!
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#2306851 - 07/25/14 08:26 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: turandot]
Minnesota Marty Offline

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Originally Posted By: turandot
Mahler's public apology.

Did Mahler finally apologize for the length of his symphonies?

Just maybe he is decomposing his symphonies as well as himself.

wink
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#2306896 - 07/25/14 09:59 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
Dara Offline
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I wondered 'mahermusic' in reading your initial posting, why you didn't send it as a PM to Rich. It seems well intentioned, though what's with the need to apologize anonymously worldwide publicly ?

Rich, receives a lot of attention and accolades here, perhaps more than any other person in the piano business here on PW.
He well may deserve ongoing praise for his pianos and commitment to music and piano , but continual threads that keep linking to his business, here on PW, get rather redundant, obsessive and advertising orientated.


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#2308428 - 07/29/14 09:27 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Dara]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Registered: 05/28/01
Posts: 9284
Loc: Philadelphia/South Jersey
Originally Posted By: Dara
I wondered 'mahermusic' in reading your initial posting, why you didn't send it as a PM to Rich. It seems well intentioned, though what's with the need to apologize anonymously worldwide publicly ?


Dara,

Frankly I wondered the same thing. Since then I have had some pm exchanges with 'mahermusic' and I understand a little more about where he is coming from.

Now that I know who he is and his work (in real life) I am even more impressed. If he wants to share that, I will leave it up to him.
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Rich Galassini
Cunningham Piano Co.
Phila, Pa.
Dir. Line (215) 991-0834
rich@cunninghampiano.com
www.cunninghampiano.com

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#2310813 - 08/03/14 11:50 PM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: mahermusic]
Corvus Offline
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Registered: 09/28/13
Posts: 51
I, for one, am glad for the public apology, because I have enjoyed reading the ensuing thread.

There is also a certain sense in publicly apologizing for actions that may have abetted public defamation.

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#2310845 - 08/04/14 01:57 AM Re: An Apology to Rich Galassini & Cunningham Music [Re: Corvus]
OperaTenor Offline
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Registered: 04/13/06
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Loc: Sandy Eggo, California
Originally Posted By: Corvus
I, for one, am glad for the public apology, because I have enjoyed reading the ensuing thread.

There is also a certain sense in publicly apologizing for actions that may have abetted public defamation.


Precisely, and I agree. Very upstanding of mahermusic to make a public statement.

As for others who seem to be using this thread to take out some snark, be it on Rich, mahermusic, or whoever: Really? Is it necessary?
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