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#2305553 - 07/22/14 06:26 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: rov]
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How about you take this [endless, meaningless and annoying] discussion to the PMs so we can forget about this thread.

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#2305556 - 07/22/14 06:41 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: rov]
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I hope a moderator comes along to lock the thread sometime in the (very) near future, and hopefully it will then slip down (literally and figuratively) into obscurity.
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#2305560 - 07/22/14 06:53 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: Atrys]
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Originally Posted By: Atrys

This article confirms my point of view. There is no objective truth.

The first used example is already a bad one. "What day of the week is it today?" has as many answers as calendars with different week systems. 220 years ago, the answers in France and England would have been different.

Other easily to debunk sentences:
"Gravity is the same no matter what the historical context or what your religion is."
But not necessarily in a time-space anomaly while travelling at the speed of light.

"2+2=4".
Only if assuming a counting system of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5...
If it was 1, 2, 3, 5, 4, 6, ..., then 2+2=5.

"Communication relies on there being an objective truth.".
Nope, it relies on convention. Like the used language.

Not to be misunderstood: Seeking truth is worthwile. But it will never be an absolute or objective truth. It will be truth relative to those who find it, and to their living conditions, and their field of research.

Even the other example you provided, about the speed of light, is not an absolute/objective truth. It's what we believe to be true; but only as long as no physicist finds out stuff Einstein didn't know about. Maybe under some particular time/space conditions, light travels at a different speed.

And to go back to the subject of piano playing: It involves the pianist, the instrument, the room (including listeners), and the music to play. These components need to work together in order to produce fine art. And I don't think there is one universal way to do it.
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#2305562 - 07/22/14 06:55 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
I hope a moderator comes along to lock the thread sometime in the (very) near future, and hopefully it will then slip down (literally and figuratively) into obscurity.

I hope not. I find it entertaining. Those who don't like it don't have to read it.
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#2305563 - 07/22/14 06:57 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: rov]
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Yeah, but I have to keep seeing the thread in bold every time someone posts. There should be an 'ignore thread' option.

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#2305566 - 07/22/14 07:03 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: patH]
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Originally Posted By: patH

This article confirms my point of view. There is no objective truth.

Haha no it doesn't, and yes there is.

It honestly sounds like your brain is structured in such a way that you're incapable of understanding this without formal instruction. We talk about people like you on other forums, but this is a digression.

Take some courses (e-campus works too) on philosophy; general science courses are also an excellent introduction to objective thinking and critical analysis (yes, you need to work on both).

You obviously don't understand what an inertial frame is, which I already addressed. Truth is not "always relative" which is a stupid relativist notion that has been tossed aside since the Enlightenment.

Anyways, yes, some formal education on these topics is what you need.
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#2305567 - 07/22/14 07:05 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
I hope a moderator comes along to lock the thread sometime in the (very) near future...
If you want a moderator to lock a thread the most efficient way is to use the notify button.
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#2305568 - 07/22/14 07:11 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: currawong]
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Originally Posted By: currawong
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
I hope a moderator comes along to lock the thread sometime in the (very) near future...
If you want a moderator to lock a thread the most efficient way is to use the notify button.


WHERE'S THAT DOGGONE BUTTON???

FOUND IT !!!!!!!!! grin grin

Thanks Currawong !!



Edited by carey (07/22/14 07:17 PM)
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#2305571 - 07/22/14 07:20 PM Re: Play chopin étude op 10 no 1 at 104 bpm in a week [Re: rov]
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Hard to believe a thread where the signal to noise ratio is so badly out of whack could have gone on for so long.

Now fixed.

Thread closed.
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