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#2304853 - Yesterday at 01:57 PM Playing Grands then playing The New Roland
StrangeCat Offline
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Registered: 09/17/08
Posts: 14
Loc: Minnesota
After playing a few Grand Pianos I went into the room with the digital pianos and sat down at a Roland HP508.

I had never played one of these before and I really didn't know what to expect. WOW! I was really surprised it felt like a Grand Piano. I had no idea that the new digital pianos would feel this close to a Grand Piano, I really could barely tell the difference, and I even went back to a few Steinway Grands and played then played HP 508 again. Once Again I was surprised. I put the HP508 through it's paces.

The Digital Piano I was after was the Roland DP-90se which uses the same keyboard and piano sound as the Roland HP508. Yes these feel the same! (I bought the Roland DP-90se)

The Deal is this...The DP-90se can only be bought online it is not sold in stores like SchmittMusic. If you play a Roland HP508 you are getting the DP-90se.

I really don't recall the HP507 feeling as great as the HP508.

Really impressed! Hope this helps a few that are looking at the Roland DP-90se.
Later.

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#2304886 - Yesterday at 02:49 PM Re: Playing Grands then playing The New Roland [Re: StrangeCat]
toddy Online   content
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Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 1559
Loc: Portugal
Originally Posted By: StrangeCat

The Digital Piano I was after was the Roland DP-90se which uses the same keyboard and piano sound as the Roland HP508. Yes these feel the same! (I bought the Roland DP-90se)

The Deal is this...The DP-90se can only be bought online it is not sold in stores like SchmittMusic. If you play a Roland HP508 you are getting the DP-90se.


Although it's true that the HP508 and DP-90se have similar keyboard and have the same SN Piano, it may be misleading to potential buyers to say that 'if you play an HP508 you are getting the DP-90se.

There are big differences between them. The HP508 is very superior in terms of sound reproduction, with 60 + 15 x 2 Watts speaker output compared to 12 x 2 watts on the DP90se. The HP508 apparently has advanced spacial sound projection system taken from the V- Grand, which the DP90 does not.

Also the sound adjustment and piano designer controls are more extensive on the HP508.

Since the HP508 is approaching double the weight of the DP90se, it's going to be a more substantial instrument. This is worth considering with the difference between the two pianos being about 20%.
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#2305274 - Today at 10:04 AM Re: Playing Grands then playing The New Roland [Re: StrangeCat]
EssBrace Offline
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Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 2392
Loc: Suffolk, United Kingdom
Originally Posted By: StrangeCat
I had no idea that the new digital pianos would feel this close to a Grand Piano, I really could barely tell the difference....


I'm sorry but I just can't take posts like this seriously.
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#2305557 - Today at 06:44 PM Re: Playing Grands then playing The New Roland [Re: EssBrace]
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Registered: 12/26/12
Posts: 1159
Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Originally Posted By: StrangeCat
I had no idea that the new digital pianos would feel this close to a Grand Piano, I really could barely tell the difference....


I'm sorry but I just can't take posts like this seriously.


Partly, it's a matter of expectations.

In the late 1950's / early 1960's, one of the hi-fi makers (I think it was Acoustic Research) did "blind" A/B testing of its loudspeakers (and a good stereo playback chain) against a live string quartet. And reported the results:

. . . People couldn't tell the difference.

I think, in the early days of recording (pre-electronic), similar tests were done, comparing played-back recordings to live speakers:

. . . People couldn't tell the difference.

So, the OP may just be suffering from the shock of finding out that a digital piano can sound _reasonably close_ to a acoustic grand piano.

That shock will probably wear off, if he/she keeps listening critically, both to acoustic pianos and different DP's. And he/she will become as critical as the rest of us.<g>

But that initial sense of:

. . . "This is _much_ better than I expected!"

is one that I've felt myself, more than once.

. Charles

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#2305585 - 29 minutes 14 seconds ago Re: Playing Grands then playing The New Roland [Re: Charles Cohen]
Delphian2001 Online   content
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Registered: 08/01/13
Posts: 65
Loc: Lovely So Cal
I think the OP referred to the feel/action of DP compared to the grands, not the sound.

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#2305598 - 5 minutes 29 seconds ago Re: Playing Grands then playing The New Roland [Re: EssBrace]
toddy Online   content
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/30/11
Posts: 1559
Loc: Portugal
Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Originally Posted By: StrangeCat
I had no idea that the new digital pianos would feel this close to a Grand Piano, I really could barely tell the difference....


I'm sorry but I just can't take posts like this seriously.


Well, Simone Dinnerstein said the same thing - with greater force, if anything - about the N2 in this video.

The N2, as I understand it has a more rudimentary sound engine and interface system (re resolution) than the HP508. I think she is talking seriously, against her preconceived ideas. There may be an element of the promotional, but I don't think her actual words are falsely meant.
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Mics: SP B1 & MXL V67g/ Alesis MicTube Preamp/ Xenyx302/ Yamaha HS7s .

"Only a fool is fooled" pv88, All Fools' Day 2014.

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