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#2304897 - 07/21/14 03:03 PM Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2)
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My previous piece (Impromtu in D minor): http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2166034.html#Post2166034

Here is my newest composition. Actually, it is about 4 months old. I started composing this at last Christmas holiday and wrote some every once in a while, having a lot of school work and stress. Who knows if that has had some influence to the piece? It was roughly ready those 4 months ago, but after that I made some improvements and changes. I made a computer listening version before I learned to play it myself. I would have published this earlier but I was already learning it and I wanted to make a recording rather than giving just that computer played version. I haven't mastered this piece yet so the recording is not perfect. Also the difficulty of this is already verging my skill level.

The piece itself... well, there's a lot of different things in there, and what is even more special, this "Impromptu in majors and minors" has no main key at all! While my uncle was listening to this, he commented things like "that's Bach... that's Rachmaninoff... that could be Chopin".

I'd say that at least Rachmaninoff (probably my favourite composer) has influenced my works. I like the big chords, difficult paths and the epicness of his music, and that's the kind of music I want to compose. However, my next goal is to make a more peaceful piece for a change, if I'm able to do that (but they just BECOME like this!).

There , have sheet music, a recording (Thanks to my JiaYu G4S china phone with great stereo microphones!) and a computer played version. At some point I'm probably going to make different kind of sheet music that show how I play it (hands and fingering). SoundCloud link

Enjoy!



Edited by Skinkken (07/21/14 03:10 PM)

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#2310342 - 08/02/14 07:01 PM Re: Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2) [Re: Skinkken]
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What do you think?

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#2312520 - 08/07/14 04:09 PM Re: Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2) [Re: Skinkken]
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Some improvements to the score.

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#2312574 - 08/07/14 06:16 PM Re: Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2) [Re: Skinkken]
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I would prefer links in this thread directly to the score rather than linking to another forum. It's a nice piece and it's got some nice drama to it. While I hear the references to Rachmaninov I wouldn't mention that in your discussion, I hear far less of Chopin or Bach. This is your piece not Rachmaninov's. If he's an influence that's fine but you want to develop your own voice.

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#2314196 - 08/11/14 12:56 PM Re: Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2) [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Chandler
I would prefer links in this thread directly to the score rather than linking to another forum. It's a nice piece and it's got some nice drama to it. While I hear the references to Rachmaninov I wouldn't mention that in your discussion, I hear far less of Chopin or Bach. This is your piece not Rachmaninov's. If he's an influence that's fine but you want to develop your own voice.

I use the piano society because it's simple and easy to upload there while actually posting the piece there too. Many upload sites have restrictions or policy of removing files after some time. And actually that is 2 clicks away from the file, like it would be at many free upload sites.

That Rachmaninov-thing: I'm not trying to mimic Rachmaninov nor take his honor. I just wanted to tell about the piece and because I listen to Rachmaninov a lot, it inevitably has some influence to my pieces. It's not Rachmaninov's piece, but he has had influence to it. I write my own way.

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#2437798 - 07/02/15 10:30 AM Re: Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2) [Re: Skinkken]
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I have to bump thread because I can't edit posts: Pianosociety links are dead. New links here:

Sheet music: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3J4hi2EEiX9MXRSc1BHbW1yeWs
MP3: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3J4hi2EEiX9RGZQaTdXNUt6MG8
Same on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vT18IiziiU

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#2438112 - 07/03/15 07:04 AM Re: Impromptu in majors and minors (Impromptu 2) [Re: Skinkken]
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Registered: 12/06/14
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Loc: Hawaii
It was a treat to hear such lovely playing. I no longer listen to piano clips which are computerized renderings because I believe the composer MUST have a working knowledge of his instrument. And you do. This piece is clearly written by a pianist FOR the piano.

But my suggestion would be to do what I did recently ( and wished I had forced myself to do much much earlier). Write one or two pieces ... they can be fairly short ... using the standard ABA "Sonata" format ... adhering to the classical rules for the keys.

Here's a good basic article .. http://www.britannica.com/art/sonata-form

This guideline is a powerful tool, which facilitates composing and ensures a "unity" which is pleasing to the ear, even if one isn't sitting with score on one's lap.

Recently I've wrestled with a short student's piece which simply refused to conform to any sort of standard classical form. It was a misery ... but I hauled myself out of the black hole by using the standard key transpositions ... and finally it fell into place. I can't define exactly when a section suddenly "makes sense" and pulls everything together. But it is intuitive and it happens.

While it might seem at first constricting ... there is a reason this form has dominated so much music for so long ... having it as a "tool" can be invaluable.

Now this piece ... to my mind actually could be broken up into three or more pieces. Up to about 1.40 it was consistant and I was waiting for the "development" ... but it seemed as if a second piece of music was suddenly tacked on.

My suggestion is try a "sonata" form ... strictly adhering to the traditional key relationships and simple format. Then try a contrasting second movement, perhaps in a minor key. And return to the tonic for the final movement. Get comfortable with the rules.

And THEN go and break them if you like. Gleefully! laugh

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