2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
65 members (bcalvanese, 36251, brdwyguy, amc252, akse0435, 20/20 Vision, Burkhard, benkeys, 17 invisible), 2,108 guests, and 332 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,854
D
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,854
Originally Posted by Derulux
My best advice: never go more than 80% when practicing on inferior equipment. You'll sacrifice technique to try and get that extra 20%, and it isn't worth it. (This is from trial and experience..) wink
That is a very interesting observation! Thank you.

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,352
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,352
Originally Posted by doctor S
Michaelangeli's personal piano was supposedly an old Petrof. Could wrestling with a bear of a practice piano have contributed to his preternatural accuracy in performance?

My piano here in Sweden is a pre-Soviet Petrof. It has a very warm sound though the tone is a bit boxed in.

Practicing on lower grade pianos might be a good thing vs. pianos that do too much of the work for the pianist. Going from a lower grade piano in practicing to a higher grade one in performing is easier than the other way around, just as going from a piano with a heavier action in practice to a piano with a lighter action in performance is far more comfortable than the other way around. In a performance the piano used might be anything. At a Bach Festival in 1999 the piano I played was an upright, and that was at a big church too and just outside of N.Y.C.

Maybe Michelangeli just was very much of a perfectionist in the repertoire he played? Perhaps the Petrof had some issues which required him to always really concentrate for accuracy, and then with a fine piano in a performance he hardly had to focus on that aspect.

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,352
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 2,352
Originally Posted by Derulux
Quote
Frustrating, because now I'm a bit irked that I can't practice all the time with such a setup so I can learn to exploit it to the maximum

I know this feeling very well. I spent the better part of 6 years on a 9' Steinway grand, and made leaps and bounds during that time. For the last 8 years, I've had a keyboard, and I can count on one hand the number of real pianos I've had the opportunity to touch in those 8 years. It can be very frustrating. My best advice: never go more than 80% when practicing on inferior equipment. You'll sacrifice technique to try and get that extra 20%, and it isn't worth it. (This is from trial and experience..) wink

Hi Derulux, I know someone in the U.S. who lost much of his hearing and had to start practicing on a digital with headphones. Suddenly his playing on a real piano became much more expressive, maybe from trying to get the digital to "work". So perhaps, though frustrating, there is that benefit?

I have a Roland F-110 here and when I go from it to the Petrof, it seems like a lot of the intensity of concentration in playing expressively suddenly has been taken care of.

Maybe when us pianists have to do such things, whether to accommodate neighbors during some hours as I do or for other reasons, it is a blessing in disguise?

Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Brendan, platuser 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
New DP for a 10 year old
by peelaaa - 04/16/24 02:47 PM
Estonia 1990
by Iberia - 04/16/24 11:01 AM
Very Cheap Piano?
by Tweedpipe - 04/16/24 10:13 AM
Practical Meaning of SMP
by rneedle - 04/16/24 09:57 AM
Country style lessons
by Stephen_James - 04/16/24 06:04 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,391
Posts3,349,273
Members111,634
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.