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#2307270 - 07/26/14 07:11 AM Kawai MP11 Thread
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Originally Posted By: PatrickBl.

Quote from MP7 thread page 20.

"Anyway, it occurred to me while browsing the "Kawai MP11. Can't get sound right" thread (must look up how to link to threads) that although lots of helpful people were posting lists of their various settings, no-one suggested sharing setup/sound files that had been dumped from their MP11.

Am I missing something? With all the tweaks and changes you can make with the MP7/11, I would have thought there would be a lot of enthusiastic file swapping going on."


Great idea from PatrickBI.



Edited by Abby Pianoman (07/26/14 07:14 AM)

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#2307301 - 07/26/14 09:34 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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BTW. How would one go about dumping,sharing or uploading Setup/Sound files on this site?


Edited by Abby Pianoman (07/26/14 09:37 AM)

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#2307315 - 07/26/14 10:17 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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Use a third party audio file distribution site like Box , Source Audio, Sound Cloud or go on youtube if you have a nice video to go with the music or audio track.

If it's other types of files like set up data, I suppose you can use wetransfer if you're sending to a few people only. If you want files publically available, use a site like MediaFire.


Edited by toddy (07/26/14 10:26 AM)
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#2307786 - 07/27/14 01:10 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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Started this thread in order to hear from other MP11 owners about their personal experiences with the Instrument. I figured that since the Instrument has been in circulation for a few months already, there would many more MP11 owners out there who may want to share their experiences, whether positive or negative.
For example, I was reading the MP7 thread and saw that some owners had trouble with the menu changing parameters by itself. Without being touched.

But there was also positive feedback from others about their overall satisfaction with their board. I feel it would be helpful to other owners, as well as to those considering buying this Instrument.

I for one am getting more satisfied with the MP11 as the days go by. The feel of this keybed is truly phenomenal. I had issues with the sound, but that too has improved very much with tweaking the virtual technician. It took some time but got better as I followed the very helpful tips and suggestions that others contributed on this forum.

So I thought our very own MP11 specific thread would be useful to have for a while.

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#2307795 - 07/27/14 01:49 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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I am seriously considering upgrading to the MP11. I am a still learning to play, so I want the best action going forward. Sound is less important to me (for the most part, I use Pianoteq). I have considered the VPC1, but I think I want the onboard sounds. I keep going back and forth wondering if the extra cost for the MP11 is worth it. In any case, these threads have been helpful to me as a potential buyer. Thanks!
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    #2307820 - 07/27/14 02:43 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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    Scorpio,
    You might want to check out Roland's RD-800 which has a phenomenal action and a lot of versatility. Also, I haven't played Yamaha's CP4, but it seems to get really good reviews in terms of the quality of the action. If you like the yamaha sound it might be an ideal choice. And from kawai, it might be worth checking out the MP7 or ES7. Though the MP11 has the top of the line action, the MP7 and ES7 are reported to have excellent actions as well. Just because the MP11's action is newer and more expensive doesn't mean you'll like it better. From reading reviews my impression is that the MP/ES-7s have lighter actions than the MP11. You might find you just like the feel of that better. The only way to know for sure is to try it out. Try them all if you can. After doing so, you may in fact fall in love with the MP11's action and go for it anyway. But then you'll really know it's the best for you. smile
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    #2307843 - 07/27/14 03:47 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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    Sadly, beginners looking for the best action in a portable form have to choose between emptiness of the VPC1 and 999 knobs of the MP11. (I tend to believe that any wooden action is better than any plastic one.)

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    #2307848 - 07/27/14 04:01 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: rpw]
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    rpw, I completely agree.

    I have had my P155 for 18 months - I truly love it (as my first). But I am ready to move away from the plastic keys. I made great progress last year with a teacher and feel it is time to move up.

    All things equal I would stick with Yamaha (I really prefer the Yamaha sound). I do like the bulkiness of the MP11, and the longer keys. Unfortunately, finding any of these to try (CP4, MP11, RD800) in my area is not easy.
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      #2308043 - 07/28/14 07:57 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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      rpw: I tend to believe that any wooden action is better than any plastic one.

      scorpio: rpw, I completely agree.

      I am on the search for my first real DP and I would like to know if the above statements are true.

      Please advice
      Thanks

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      #2308055 - 07/28/14 08:31 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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      From a point of view of being able to feel better because you know you're playing a wooden key rather than a plastic one, yes definitely. Wooden is better. From a practical point of view, I doubt it makes any difference except that plastic may possibly be more subject to fatigue than wood, in which case wood is better because the plastic could sheer at a weak point.

      Both are simply parts in a lever mechanism and both are always covered in plastic anyway, so I would have thought it's a very minor point indeed in the make up on the piano. Other specifications of the action are much more important. But of course, this opinion might be wrong - I'm not an engineer to be able to really discern the difference.
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      #2308059 - 07/28/14 08:35 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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      LarryMan, the reason Kawai wooden-key actions are so highly regarded is not just the material of the keys. Of course this is important, however the overall action design, including key length, pivot length, movement/motion, hammer placement, counterweight, etc. all contribute to a realistic touch feeling.

      Simply adding wood to a plastic-key action will not automatically improve its realism.

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      #2308080 - 07/28/14 09:39 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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      Kawai James
      True, and in fact I think those things are vastly more important than simply having wooden keys. Although one might argue that if a DP manufacturer is going to the trouble to add wooden keys to the action of a DP, then they are more likely to focus on those things as well for that model. Since DP's that have wooden keys tend to have more thought put into the design of those actions, they probably tend to be better over all. I don't really know if the wooden keys part really makes that much difference to be honest. Most of those DP's have some sort of faux ivory key top so it's not like you're actually getting some tactile benefit from the wood itself. The only feeling that I can see is in the inertia of moving the key itself. I'm not convinced (though I haven't really done any personal testing smile that the wood part really makes a noticeable difference. I suspect wooden keys is more about marketing, it's sort of a broadcast to the world (Hey, we care about the action on this piano!). It might become a sort of "Must Have" for high end digital pianos, more due to marketing than actual considerations.

      Although maybe there is a tangible benefit beyond the psychological (maybe it's hard to match the inertia of the wood to the plastic or whatever). Maybe kawaii did some research and found that it really did matter to players? I know, even if they did you probably couldn't share the results. Those darned corporate secrets! *Grin*
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      #2308146 - 07/28/14 12:54 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Kawai James]
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      Originally Posted By: Kawai James
      The reason Kawai wooden-key actions are so highly regarded is not just the material of the keys. Of course this is important, however the overall action design, including key length, pivot length, movement/motion, hammer placement, counterweight, etc. all contribute to a realistic touch feeling.

      Simply adding wood to a plastic-key action will not automatically improve its realism.

      Kind regards,
      James
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      Like James said, it's not just about adding wood. You have to look at the whole picture. It's about the entire mechanism.

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      #2308163 - 07/28/14 01:43 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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      Maybe I am over exaggerating the plastic key issue. But when I practice at home (P155), sometimes I tend to slip on the keys. I do not experience the same during my lessons on an acoustic. I suppose I could be doing something wrong.
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        #2308196 - 07/28/14 03:23 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: scorpio]
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        Originally Posted By: scorpio
        Maybe I am over exaggerating the plastic key issue. But when I practice at home (P155), sometimes I tend to slip on the keys. I do not experience the same during my lessons on an acoustic. I suppose I could be doing something wrong.


        That has to do with the key surfaces which are always, always plastic, anyway. Whether you're playing an acoustic or a digital, the key surface will be plastic, unless it is so old that real ivory was used, but that's very unlikely, I think.

        However, some plastic is better than other plastic: some acrylics seem to grip better than others and modern pianos - especially digitals (not so much real pianos) tend to have special imitation ivory keys.

        But it's all plastic. You never would actually feel the wood part of a wooden key.....except for the black keys, perhaps, which would have a lighter laminate or painted surface, rather than plastic covering.


        Edited by toddy (07/28/14 03:25 PM)
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        #2308205 - 07/28/14 03:46 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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        It may not be about wood, however there seem to be direct relation between key material and action mechanism. All wooden actions, whether it's kawai or yamaha, share exactly same design - longer keys with hammers above them.

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        #2308222 - 07/28/14 04:37 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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        thank you blush


        Edited by scorpio (07/28/14 04:37 PM)
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          #2308291 - 07/28/14 08:25 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: rpw]
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          Originally Posted By: rpw
          It may not be about wood, however there seem to be direct relation between key material and action mechanism. All wooden actions, whether it's kawai or yamaha, share exactly same design - longer keys with hammers above them.


          rpw, with respect, the design of Kawai's wooden-key action and Yamaha's wooden-key action is very different.

          Kawai 'Grand Feel' action:



          Yamaha 'Natural Wood Stage' action:



          Kind regards,
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          #2308295 - 07/28/14 09:20 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          I apologize. I jumped to conclusions after seeing pictures of the CLP-990.

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          #2308472 - 07/29/14 11:34 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          You slip on basic plastic because it does not absorb sweat from your fingers.
          The likewise porous plastic imitations are pretty decent nowadays, I haven't noticed any issues with my MP11 for example.

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          #2309181 - 07/31/14 03:04 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          My MP11 and K&M Omega stand from Guitar Center arrived today and yesterday, so I unpacked and assembled both--with some unfortunate results.

          The MP11 package exterior showed some minor wear and tear, but nothing beyond an expected and ordinary degree. The interior, however, was a different story with significant damage to the polystyrene supports immediately visible.



          The pedal unit box was the worst off. It was already open and the nearby padding was clearly compromised. That's the left pedal plastic cap on the container floor, somehow jostled off of the pedal itself somewhere in the S&H process. Also visible in these two pictures is some damage to the anti-debris plastic wrap, which was seen in a couple other spots, too.



          There was no moreso critical looking damage, so I finished unpacking and got it on the stand. Keys seem unhurt, electronic functionality seems fine, and despite the turbulence suffered, the pedals also seem to work okay. In general, the F-30 pedals are much adequate than I was anticipating in this post (maybe the old F-20 unit I had tried beforehand was itself not in the best of shape), but I'm a little concerned by the slight squeaking sound made by the sustain pedal alone (no squeak from the other two). I'm guessing it may be an ordinary noise since the sustain pedal has a very different feel from the soft/sostenuto pedals (it feels much heftier and easier to variably press, which I appreciate and presume intentional), but with the package damage I don't know for sure.

          The real bad news, though, is the display screen. I didn't notice immediately but there is significant scratching and marring on it. Notably, there was no protective peel-off plastic film cover on the screen, which seems like a real oddity in consumer electronic displays. Was mine unusual in lacking such a temporary cover (again, can't rule it out under the circumstances), or is it that standard procedure for the MP11?



          There was no other damage to any of the rest of the faceplate, buttons, or knobs, so I'm a little skeptical that this scarring occured during shipping. The only thing loose in the box was the left pedal cover shell which I don't think is a likely culprit for this kind of damage even if it could have gotten into a position to potentially cause it. As a result of the damage to the screen I don't right now expect to be keeping this unit--although it's not an impediment to usage, it is a big harm to future potential resale value since it could not be claimed as undamaged or pristine condition. I take impeccable care of all my gear and if I ever parted with the MP11 it would be in very close condition to the state I received it in, so starting with visible defects is not acceptable. I'll be looking into the available options here.

          Update: As noted in this post a few replies down, there is a protective film on top of the display screen! I think the display will be unblemished when the cover is fully removed. Here it is just starting to peel off after some effort.


          On a more positive note, I'm very happy with the choice to go with a stage piano (deliberated upon in this thread). The K&M Omega (18810) stand fits the MP11 quite nicely, but it is a little bit wobbly (though not at all unbearably), so I may think about trying the K&M 18950 which I'd be confident would eliminate the shaking entirely if I'm able to deal with its 2 inch higher minimum height (it would bring the MP11's floor-to-top-of-white-key height to minimum 29.1 inches--which I believe to be on the high side in comparison to acoustics).


          Edited by Starboard (07/31/14 01:03 PM)

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          #2309187 - 07/31/14 03:43 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          Starboard, thank you for your post.

          If you have any concerns related to shipping damaged/rough handling, I would almost certainly contact Guitar Center for a replacement. You may also wish to contact Kawai America to ensure that the situation is fully logged.

          Regarding the scratched screen, I'm 99.9% certain there should be a protective cover on the LCD, although it may be tricky to remove initially.

          Kind regards,
          James
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          ps. For what it's worth, I agree with your plan to swithc to the K&M 18950.
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          #2309193 - 07/31/14 04:44 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          Starboard,

          I hope you sort the problem soon

          I did some research for the K&M 18950 and according to the http://www.thomann.de/gb/km_18950.htm the dimensions are:
          650-890(H) x 650-1030(W) x 395mm (D). Weight: 10kg

          which allows you to adjust it for less that 29.1 inches (74cm).

          Hope that helps.

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          #2309262 - 07/31/14 09:30 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          Starboard…

          I promise you there is a protective cover on the display. I had the same problem with my MP6, even called for support. It's hard to detect, but that protective cover will come off if you keep at it!

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          #2309348 - 07/31/14 12:53 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: LarryMan]
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          Originally Posted By: Kawai James
          Regarding the scratched screen, I'm 99.9% certain there should be a protective cover on the LCD, although it may be tricky to remove initially.

          Originally Posted By: HisKidd
          I promise you there is a protective cover on the display. I had the same problem with my MP6, even called for support. It's hard to detect, but that protective cover will come off if you keep at it!


          James and HissKid: You are both correct, thank you for confirming that there should be a cover on the screen! I had two other people look at it in person, and we were all sure that there was no film cover--but we were all mistaken, because with some dedicated attempts at peeling on the edge, I was able to just now start to clear it off. I'm not going to peel it all the way back yet, but I'm satisfied that the screen below will be pristine when the cover is eventually removed. Tricky to remove/detect is a bit of an understatement--this thing had me totally convinced that it didn't exist! I updated the previous post with a picture of the cover peeled back a tiny bit.

          Originally Posted By: LarryMan
          Starboard,

          I hope you sort the problem soon

          I did some research for the K&M 18950 and according to the http://www.thomann.de/gb/km_18950.htm the dimensions are:
          650-890(H) x 650-1030(W) x 395mm (D). Weight: 10kg

          which allows you to adjust it for less that 29.1 inches (74cm).

          Larry, thank you for your response--but I was accounting for the height of the MP11 itself in that 29.1 inch floor-to-keytop figure. The MP11's base-to-keys height is right around 3.5 inches, and if it were resting on the four rubber nubs on its underside that would add about another 0.4-0.5 inches (though in the case of the 18950 I don't think it would be sitting on these nubs). With the 18950's minimum height of 650mm/25.6inches and the 3.5 inch MP11 unit itself, the key height would be at about 29.1 inches. High, but possibly workable. I'll try adjusting the Omega to simulate such a height to see if it is suitable for me.

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          #2309437 - 07/31/14 04:58 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Kawai James]
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          Originally Posted By: Kawai James
          ...For what it's worth, I agree with your plan to swithc to the K&M 18950.



          Greetings from Budapest, Hungary!
          I use this one (Gator Cases GFW-UTILITY-TBL Frameworks Heavy Duty Adjustable Table) with my Kawai MP6:
          http://www.spectrumaudio.com/gator-cases-gfw-utility-tbl.html
          Similar design but for less than half price of the K&M 18950


          Edited by paulusz (07/31/14 06:34 PM)
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          #2309490 - 07/31/14 07:05 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Starboard]
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          I fell for the cover on the LCD trick on my MP7 until Kawai James put me straight.

          Patrick
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          #2309498 - 07/31/14 07:36 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Starboard]
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          Originally Posted By: Starboard
          James and HissKid: You are both correct, thank you for confirming that there should be a cover on the screen!


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          #2309516 - 07/31/14 08:47 PM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          Hahah....Slightly OT but this reminds me of a story. My friend got a new dishwasher installed, and then he noticed that it was all scratched up. He called to complain so they gave him a big discount on it. Later, you guessed it, he discovered that it wasn't scuffed up, but had a plastic cover over the part with the controls. when he removed the cover, it was pristine. So he called back to let them know but they had already runt he discount through and refunded the difference to his credit card, they told him not to worry about it. smile
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          #2309616 - Yesterday at 01:58 AM Re: Kawai MP11 Thread [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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          I'm coming across some weird pedal behavior and I'm trying to work out whether it may be related to the shipping damage difficulty I'm dealing with. When the piano section voice is changed away from the bootup default Concert Grand (section 1, category 1, subcategory 1), the left (soft) pedal will no longer produce a change in the piano section sound. It will still affect the other voice sections and it will still transmit MIDI, but even when the piano section voice is returned to Concert Grand the pedal problem will persist. If the MP11 is restarted, the soft pedal functionality returns for the piano voice, but again only until that section voice is changed to a different category or subcategory. I'll detail a couple scenarios/processes where this problem is occuring just to be clear on the order of operations:
          • System startup; Concert Grand voice default; soft pedal works. Piano voice changed to Jazz Grand; soft pedal no longer affects voice. Piano voice changed back to Concert Grand; soft pedal still does not affect voice. Soft pedal MIDI transmits throughout.
          • System startup; Concert Grand voice default; soft pedal works. SUB section turned on; soft pedal affects both piano and string voices. Piano voice changed to Upright Piano; soft pedal affects string voice but not piano voice. MIDI still working.
          • System startup; Concert Grand voice default; soft pedal works. Piano section turned off; E.Piano section turned on; soft pedal affects E.Piano voice. Piano section voice changed to Pop Piano while deactivated; piano section turned on; soft pedal affects E.Piano voice but not piano voice. MIDI working throughout.

          Again, and to summarize: once the piano voice is changed to anything, the soft pedal does not affect the piano voice again until system restart.

          One of my first thoughts was to check the system pedal settings and the controller assignment settings, but they remain properly set (left pedal is always enabled, left pedal is set to soft effect, soft depth is at default 5) even in the non-working state. Just to be very explicit: as far as I can tell, the various pedal settings exhibit no change when the piano voice is switched and the soft pedal stops fully working. My system software version is 1.06US (received as such) which I believe to be the most recent.

          This doesn't seem like a hardware problem that would be caused by shipping trauma; in all cases the pedal is still transmitting a signal to the keyboard and the keyboard is still handling that signal event in most of the expected ways--just not in this one (very important) way. So signs point to software, but reproducible software issues of this nature aren't generally isolated to singular cases. So the question: is anyone else running system version 1.06US and not experiencing this problem? If this appears to be case then I'll probably concede defeat with this unit and aim to get it replaced.

          Edit to add: all this is predicated on the assumption that I'm not missing something more obvious that explains this behavior!


          Edited by Starboard (Yesterday at 02:04 AM)

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