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#2309550 - 07/31/14 10:17 PM Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions
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Recital #35 is now open for submissions!

Believe it or not, it’s time for the 35th quarterly “Beginners and Beyond” recital hosted by the Piano World Adult Beginners Forum! smile The recital will be posted some time on the 15th of August, which means that the submissions must be in by 9:00 pm Eastern Daylight Savings Time, August 14. Please note this deadline is very firm; I cannot start working on the recital until it is closed, and once it is closed, no new entries can be added.

While any and all styles of music are welcome, we do ask that it be piano related. Only one recording may be submitted per forum member (although that recording may consist of a medley of two or more very short related pieces).

If you are fairly new to the piano, please do not be intimidated by some of the talent here in the ABF. We all consider ourselves to be beginners even though we may have been playing for some time. And, we LOVE to hear recordings from folks new to the keyboard. So even if you’re on your first Alfred’s method book, we would *really* enjoy hearing from you. heart

Recital submissions must be in MP3 format. The maximum size of the file is 20 MB. We recommend encoding the recording at 192 kbs with a constant bitrate, as that works best with the online streaming player. At that bitrate, a 20 MB file works out to be about 7-9 minutes in length. Your recording will be normalized when placed in the consolidated zip files, but your original link will still be available for those who want it.

If you are new to recording your music, there are several threads in the forum archives that address the ways and means. See the "Important Topics in the AB Forum" thread stickied at the top of the AB forum page. Audacity is an excellent free recording application that can be used.

If you’re new to the forum and the recitals, I encourage you to browse through a few of the past recitals to see what they’re like. An easy way to find past recitals is to use Sam S.’s extremely helpful recital index, located here:

http://recitals.pianoworld.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page


Submitting Your Recording:

We will be using again the absolutely marvelous automatic web-based recital program that mahlzeit wrote for us. You will upload your mp3 file to the recital server as part of the recital submission process.

When you have your mp3 file ready, go to:

http://recitals.pianoworld.com/


and follow the instructions there. Please note that this URL reflects our new permanent home for all the recital files. Once you have uploaded your info to the automated recital software, you will receive a confirmation e-mail. You will have the opportunity to revise your submission any time up until the deadline. If you have any problems at all using the new website, or if you do not receive a confirmation e-mail within a few hours, just PM me. If you have not participated in past recitals using this software, I strongly encourage you to submit your recital piece at least a day in advance in case you run into any problems with it.

The recital website uses the following submission template to be filled out along with your attached music file. You may want to have your responses to these fields prepared in advance so all you have to do is cut and paste:

Performer's Name: {forum ID and real name if you’d like}
Where you are located: {optional}
Avatar image link: {optional}
Experience: {Yrs/Mos of piano playing experience}
Link to YouTube or other video: {optional}
Home page link: {optional}
Title of piece/composer:
Source of music: {sheet music, improvised score, play-by-ear, etc}
Instrument used: {Piano make, keyboard model, etc.}
Recording method: {audacity, Zoom, digital to PC, etc.}
Constructive technical feedback wanted: {Yes/No}
Additional Info: {Your thoughts on the piece, what you had for lunch, etc.}


The due date for all submissions is 9:00 pm US EASTERN TIME on August 14, 2014.


Did I mention that the 9:00 pm deadline was firm?

Think "consistency of concrete." smokin

By submitting a piece to the recital, you are certifying that it is a recording of your own performance.

Again, the recital order will be presented in the order the pieces were received, so the sooner you send in your piece, the higher you will be on the list! You can revise your entries on the template (e.g., thoughts about your piece, adding YouTube links, and the like) any time and not lose your place in the recital queue, but if you resubmit your recording at any time, for any reason, you will be bumped to the end of the list.

Should anyone have any questions at all on what to do or how to do it, this is the place to ask. Remember, there are NO stupid questions, as we have a steady flow of new members in AB Forum for whom this is their first recital, so your questions will probably help to eliminate other members’ problems. Please ask away! smile

Let's all go out and brave that Red Dot and share a lot of beautiful music! thumb

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#2309572 - 07/31/14 11:12 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I've come down with a very bad dose of "overpreparedness" and got myself in at No 2.
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#2309578 - 07/31/14 11:22 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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So I was just standing around minding my own business and the no. 3 spot opened up with no takers so I grabbed it.

I'm not going to play the game of trying to get a better and better take only to realize that I should have just kept the original one to begin with.

Of course, as always, my best performance is the one just after the one I submitted. It never fails!

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#2309604 - 08/01/14 01:22 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I'm in!

It's really been delightful seeing the variety, and I have found several pieces that have made their way into my Must Learn queue! It's a nice way of getting exposure to a wider scope of piano music than I would otherwise bump into.


Edited by AZ_Astro (08/01/14 01:23 AM)
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#2309608 - 08/01/14 01:38 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
sinophilia Offline

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In at number 6 smile

earlofmar, can't wait to hear your Chopin, I want to learn that too!
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#2309624 - 08/01/14 02:18 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: sinophilia]
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Originally Posted By: sinophilia
In at number 6 smile

earlofmar, can't wait to hear your Chopin, I want to learn that too!


I would say it is an excellent introduction to Chopin. I always look forward to hearing what you present as well as you are a bit in front of me time wise so I get a little glimpse of the future. Plus we both have exquisite taste in music lol.
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#2309625 - 08/01/14 02:27 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I recorded a few weeks ago, highest spot for me so far at no 7. Looking forward to the recital.
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#2309628 - 08/01/14 02:31 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: earlofmar]
sinophilia Offline

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Originally Posted By: earlofmar
Plus we both have exquisite taste in music lol.


So true grin

I may be in front of you time wise but not in terms of playing ability. And I rarely tackle challenging pieces, although I'm making more forays into the intermediate realm now. How about Schumann's Kinderszene no. 1? wink
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#2309636 - 08/01/14 03:24 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: sinophilia]
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Originally Posted By: sinophilia
How about Schumann's Kinderszene no. 1? wink

YES PLEASE!! My favourite piece of the Kinderszenen. I am so much looking forward to the moment I will be able to play it..
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#2309642 - 08/01/14 03:48 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Ok, I'm in! #8
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#2309643 - 08/01/14 04:03 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I'm trying to submit Saturday or Sunday. I was recording yesterday but it's not yet at the level I'm aiming for, however realistic that is..
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#2309644 - 08/01/14 04:07 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: sinophilia]
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Originally Posted By: sinophilia
Originally Posted By: earlofmar
Plus we both have exquisite taste in music lol.


So true grin

I may be in front of you time wise but not in terms of playing ability. And I rarely tackle challenging pieces, although I'm making more forays into the intermediate realm now. How about Schumann's Kinderszene no. 1? wink


A beautiful piece but I am trapped within a Debussy phase and don't quite know when he is going to let me go. Though I may get the boot soon enough as it's all very hard.
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#2309653 - 08/01/14 04:26 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Well done all you organised people with your submissions in already!
Planning to record this weekend and submit the best I get...

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#2309654 - 08/01/14 04:26 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Mr Super-Hunky]
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Originally Posted By: Mr Super-Hunky
So I was just standing around minding my own business and the no. 3 spot opened up with no takers so I grabbed it.

I'm not going to play the game of trying to get a better and better take only to realize that I should have just kept the original one to begin with.

Of course, as always, my best performance is the one just after the one I submitted. It never fails!


Oh, then it's really easy: submit a crap version, start the recorder and record your final submission smile
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#2309655 - 08/01/14 04:28 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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In at 9! I'm on summer holidays so my connection is not so sharp
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#2309656 - 08/01/14 04:30 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: sinophilia]
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Originally Posted By: sinophilia
Originally Posted By: earlofmar
Plus we both have exquisite taste in music lol.


So true grin

I may be in front of you time wise but not in terms of playing ability. And I rarely tackle challenging pieces, although I'm making more forays into the intermediate realm now. How about Schumann's Kinderszene no. 1? wink


Highly recommended. How about adding no. 7 to it for a bit of challenge ;-)
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#2309661 - 08/01/14 04:47 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I'm trying for a one shot record, so I'll be recording Saturday night and submitting whatever I end up recording grin

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#2309754 - 08/01/14 10:08 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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Just to let y'all know: I'm leaving in a couple of hours for Chicago to help my hubby out at the biggest coin show of the year. Most of the time I will be in the convention center with no internet access. If you have trouble uploading your recording and email it to me instead, I may not be able to upload it from my end until we return on the 9th. If you have other questions/problems, you may get quicker resolution just posting your question here in the thread.
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#2309838 - 08/01/14 03:28 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: wouter79]
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No Wouter, that's not it at all. And who said said anything about submitting a 'crap' version and just kicking back?

In reality, it goes like this...

Start practicing your next recital piece 2-3 months ahead of time. Practice it everyday, numerous times per day. After a few months, you will not only have worked out the bugs but you will be so familiar with the piece that you will start getting a little tired of it. This is a bit of a problem actually because it is right about this time that you need to make a good recording of all the practicing you have been doing but at the same time you may become a little jaded with the piece and this lackluster attitude could possibly end up in your recording. It has in mine!

Anyway, after making a decent recording, I always 'think' I can do better [because I have...but not with the recorder on] I get into this self imposed stressful cycle of trying to get just a little bit better of a recording [in which nobody else will tell the difference!].

So this time, I'm not going to do that. If I can't make it sound any better after working a piece every day for several months, then I'm not going to be able to make any dramatic results in the eleventh hour. So in the next two weeks while many others will be squirming stressing out over a 'better' recording, I'm going to start working on my next recital submission.

Of course, in two months I'll be sick of that piece and we can have this discussion all over again but after many years now I've observed that this is how it actually works.

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#2309845 - 08/01/14 03:41 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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I'm in at 16. I agonized over whether to record 'In Church' by Tchaikovsky since it's my latest assignment from my teacher and she said it will be my last level 5 etude. Yay! Well, I decided not to record that since sinophilia already played it for the last recital, so I ended up submitting my exam piece by Beethoven. I might do 'In Church' for the piano bar next month. Didn't spent any time to prepare for the recording because I'm too busy with RCM 5 exam in 7 days! Ah, I'm going crazy. Wish me luck! You'll hear a spot where my mind just went blank for a moment. I didn't re-record. It is what it is.
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#2309878 - 08/01/14 04:48 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Looks like I'm in at 17, a record for me. Can't drive my poor wife crazy with this any more...even the dogs are losing patience.


Edited by JimF (08/01/14 04:58 PM)
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#2309892 - 08/01/14 05:27 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Originally Posted By: 8 Octaves
I'm in at 16. I agonized over whether to record 'In Church' by Tchaikovsky since it's my latest assignment from my teacher and she said it will be my last level 5 etude. Yay! Well, I decided not to record that since Sinophilia already played it for the last recital, so I ended up with my exam piece from Beethoven. I might do 'In Church' for the piano bar next month. Didn't spent any time to prepare for the recording because I'm been too busy with RCM 5 exam in 7 days! Ah, I'm going crazy. Wish me luck! You'll hear a spot where my mind just went blank for a moment. I didn't re-record. It is what it is.


good luck with the exam and hope to hear how you got on
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#2309905 - 08/01/14 05:51 PM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: Mr Super-Hunky]
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Originally Posted By: Mr Super-Hunky

...

Anyway, after making a decent recording, I always 'think' I can do better [because I have...but not with the recorder on] I get into this self imposed stressful cycle of trying to get just a little bit better of a recording [in which nobody else will tell the difference!].

So this time, I'm not going to do that.


Ah, when you wrote "Of course, as always, my best performance is the one just after the one I submitted. It never fails! " you mean that you THINK that performance is better when you play it, but actually it's just like the one you just recorded.

I agree that you are not going to make major improvements in the last seconds.

But clearly you think you can do better. What is it that should be better, and why can't you make it better ?
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#2310048 - 08/02/14 12:35 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: wouter79]
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I have two pieces that are both kind of ready for recording...but I have trouble making one. Both pieces require a bit of a "slow mood" for me to play them well and again I seem to be unable to forget about the recording device and just can't help hurrying... I think I'd need a tranqualizer shot...

I decided not to play both pieces since although they are short and both are romantic, I don't think they actually make a good combination musically. So now I just have to decide...Franck or Sibelius? confused

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#2310055 - 08/02/14 01:47 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: outo]
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Originally Posted By: outo
I think I'd need a tranqualizer shot...


A stiff drink is more accessible. laugh
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#2310062 - 08/02/14 02:15 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Originally Posted By: 8 Octaves
Originally Posted By: outo
I think I'd need a tranqualizer shot...


A stiff drink is more accessible. laugh


I wísh... I am sure a glass of red would do it as well, but I've had to give up alcohol altogether for health reasons frown

I usually play best late at night, but there's no way I could play the acoustic then for the recording...I have neighbours...


Edited by outo (08/02/14 02:17 AM)

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#2310063 - 08/02/14 02:26 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: wouter79]
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Originally Posted By: wouter79

But clearly you think you can do better. What is it that should be better, and why can't you make it better ?


What should be better is the confidence in the recording. Something about playing a piece that already has a flub or two in it actually relieves some stress, not increase it.

It relieves stress because as you are playing it you know you already screwed up enough not to make this any kind of a submitted recording so then it allows you to play at ease for the rest of the piece. When the recorder is on and you already have made it 3/4 of the way through without any hiccups, you now have a huge incentive not to screw up because you are so close to making it all the way. Because of this, you tend to be cautious. This applies to me anyway.

Again, when the recorder is off, it just allows for more freedom without recorded consequences. The rpm's go down a notch.

As far as why can't I make it better? It involves the combination of what I mentioned above along with the law of diminishing returns. At first, I love a new piece. Especially the part where you actually start to grab it without messing up constantly. But after many repetitions, the initial overwhelming reaction fades a bit. The more you play it, the more ordinary it becomes to you.

This combined with the fact that at a certain point it seems to take an enormous effort just to get a tiny crumb better, I don't want to break the balance point.

I'm sure I could get better, but I'm not sure I'd want to if it involves crossing the line of having fun enjoying myself vs. living a life of constant, ongoing stress.

I don't mind living near or on that line, but I don't want to cross it.

I hope this makes sense to you as it's the best I can describe it.

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#2310085 - 08/02/14 04:00 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Originally Posted By: 8 Octaves
I'm in at 16. I agonized over whether to record 'In Church' by Tchaikovsky since it's my latest assignment from my teacher and she said it will be my last level 5 etude. Yay! Well, I decided not to record that since sinophilia already played it for the last recital, so I ended up submitting my exam piece by Beethoven. I might do 'In Church' for the piano bar next month. Didn't spent any time to prepare for the recording because I'm too busy with RCM 5 exam in 7 days! Ah, I'm going crazy. Wish me luck! You'll hear a spot where my mind just went blank for a moment. I didn't re-record. It is what it is.


Good luck! Break a leg, in bocca al lupo, whatever you prefer smile

Sorry for the Tchaikovsky, but you could have submitted it anyway, I'm sure you play it much better than I. Love Beethoven though.
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#2310098 - 08/02/14 05:19 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: JimF]
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Originally Posted By: JimF
Looks like I'm in at 17, a record for me. Can't drive my poor wife crazy with this any more...even the dogs are losing patience.


Really like that Jarrett piece, look forward to hearing your performance.
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#2310117 - 08/02/14 07:29 AM Re: Recital 35 --- Call For Submissions [Re: AB Forum Recital]
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@outo, I vote Franck smile
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