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#2309746 - 08/01/14 09:40 AM August Piano Bar, drinks on the house
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Mmmm, don't think I have ever opened the bar before. Just wanted to share this Philip Glass piece. I posted a thread with a fellow playing this on Marimba a while back and was so impressed with his playing went and learned it. As with most Glass pieces it's fairly simple and repetitious but I find it very meditative to play. It's fun to change the tempo and to play around stressing different notes.

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#2309763 - 08/01/14 10:47 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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I have no headphones handy so can't listen yet (I'm in work), but I have also been working on this - inspired by the marimba version you posted. Mine is far from ready to post, but as you say it is very meditative to play. As excellent 3 against 2 exercise for me too.

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#2309800 - 08/01/14 12:17 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Peyton - that doesn't actually sound too easy to me , keeping it going for 4+ minutes and controlling the dynamics seems plenty difficult to me. Well done.


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#2309818 - 08/01/14 01:52 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Last month I was able to visit my sister ladypayne in Alaska. We didn't have much time to play duets so this isn't the greatest, but enjoy!:)
Amazing Grace Piano Duet
https://app.box.com/s/wvzqwa1afdhlak1rkxx8
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#2309919 - 08/01/14 06:12 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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peyton: doesn't sound easy to me either but well done. Sounds pretty

here is a submission from me. I found a nice little tune by Martha Mier called Springtime in my heart.

https://app.box.com/s/w9a97x7spo01lqk3pqxh
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#2309953 - 08/01/14 07:28 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Nice one Peyton, what a great touch and sound you have
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#2309976 - 08/01/14 08:15 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Hey all, thanks for the feed back. When I said Philip Glass was simple I should have been more explicit. I meant a simple construction. I didn't mean simple to play (Although, let's face it... A Chopin nocturne is miles away tougher).
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#2309982 - 08/01/14 08:29 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Augustina, what a lovely duet. I love the way you both start off with a straight version and head off to a jazzier vibe. Were you both reading sheet music or ad libbing?

Ladypayne- a sweet happy piece! I'm sitting out on my patio, a frozen margaritta in hand a nice cigar with my speaker sitting out on the table... your playing is perfect!
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#2310027 - 08/01/14 11:22 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Here is my take on the hard-bop classic Minority by Gigi Gryce. This has earned me the dreaded sucking-on-a-lemon face from the teacher. And deservedly so. The complaint is not the beginning/ending/melody/block chords/arrangement or any of that stuff. The complaint is just with the linear solos at this speed, which are largely awful. So I am in the penalty box with remedial things to work on at different tempos. But the good news is that they are fun!



Box link to Minority

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#2310064 - 08/02/14 02:33 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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I can clearly see how playing this can be so relaxing. Great job Peyton and really great moving pic video too.

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#2310073 - 08/02/14 03:26 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Originally Posted By: Peyton
Mmmm, don't think I have ever opened the bar before. Just wanted to share this Philip Glass piece. I posted a thread with a fellow playing this on Marimba a while back and was so impressed with his playing went and learned it. As with most Glass pieces it's fairly simple and repetitious but I find it very meditative to play. It's fun to change the tempo and to play around stressing different notes.


Peyton: Mesmerizing.. Very well played. smile I'll have a spritzer. grin

Well, here's my arrangement of another old/classic movie tune smile Dealing with sticky keys again but had fun anyway.

Till There Was You (The Music Man)






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#2310101 - 08/02/14 05:50 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Augustina & Ladypayne - these two pieces are so far from what I normally listen to, but hey what great uplifting happy music, thanks for sharing.

KenJazz - no lemon sucking face required, great arrangment as usual. The recording evokes a feeling of being in a jazz club in the late 50's and what could be better than that.
So in places your technique is a little behind your ideas, so what, it doesn't distract from the performance you have put together (love those descending glisssandos too). Lets face it , playing jazz aint easy and when you add a fast tempo, well, it really, really aint' easy.
I read your blog on this ,you put a lot of research in and it shows in the end product, kudos for that. (Also from your blog you mentioned Paula Shocron,never heard of her before but what a great jazz player she is - YouTube is my friend). Well done mate.

Elssa - one of your best I think, this tune and your style fit like a glove.
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#2310102 - 08/02/14 06:01 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Here is one from me. My version and improvisation on My Funny Valentine, written by Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart in 1937.

https://app.box.com/s/ie949yonuicjfj76i37l
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#2310106 - 08/02/14 06:36 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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Originally Posted By: jazztpt
Here is one from me. My version and improvisation on My Funny Valentine, written by Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart in 1937.

https://app.box.com/s/ie949yonuicjfj76i37l



Jazztpt - Gorgeous tone and phrasing on this treatment of Funny Valentine! You've done two of my favorites in a row. I didn't get a chance to comment on That's All in July, but I really loved it. I have several recordings of that one in different styles (mostly latin), and always thought of it as a latin-influenced number. But you've given me some new ideas for it!

Thanks for the comments on Minority. This is definitely not a straight-line learning experience, and there are setbacks along the way that hopefully can lead to some breakthroughs.

I'm off to the Newport Jazz festival this morning! I should come back with a head full of ideas to try out...
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#2310130 - 08/02/14 08:03 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Not a piano piece, I'm singing with the choir here. It was an amazing experience. My roommate is conducting this and I'm the guy in the back on the right side.




Our choir teacher is so good that she managed to teach us to sing like this for only 2 years. When we started most of us couldn't even sing moderately well in choir. It's still not professional singing but it's certainly a beautiful sounding choir smile


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#2310140 - 08/02/14 08:36 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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Jazztpt,

Delightful rendition of Valentine. The little figure and chords around 1:47 or so took my breath away for a second and elicited a "oh my, how sweet is that!" moment.
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#2310155 - 08/02/14 09:21 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Ken- sucking on a lemon face be damned! Sounded pretty darned good to me.

Ellsa- I have always been a sucker for that song. Love those crossovers at the beginning.
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#2310163 - 08/02/14 09:37 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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I may or may not have been working on this piece for the last nine months.






Ok ok I haven't. It just sat on my iPad for that long.
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#2310195 - 08/02/14 11:18 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Peyton, nice mood, beautifully done! I always look forward to Glass stuff, and his music always works for me in movies. Watching you play, it strikes me that this must really be effective at strengthening your fingers too (not that I think you need it), an added bonus!

Augustina, Ladypayne, interesting reharmonizations on Amazing Grace! Nice teamwork! Family music making is one of the joys of life!

Ladypayne, very spirited rendition, fits the piece well. Good work!

Ken, that's a fascinating song. I have seen it in fakebooks but I don't remember hearing it before. I really enjoyed your performance. Fast tempos are tough! I found your blog very interesting - reminds me of how I have struggled with difficult songs, going through similar processes of listening to many recordings, finding ways to simplify, etc, - and after all that - the "sucking-on-a-lemon face from the teacher" that we all know so well. Oh well, I suppose that is what teachers are for, to keep prodding us to do better. Wish I were going to Newport - I understand Peter Martin is performing there. I have been working through some of his canned lessons online.

Elssa, lovely arrangement of a great old tune, complete with one of your patented endings! Good music!

Jazztpt, that was simply beautiful! You make it sound so easy, so relaxed, flowing so smoothly, but there is a lot going on harmonically and melodically. Wonderful playing!

Teodor, that was gorgeous singing, very moving. Is there an English translation?

Allard, OK, I don't know how long you worked on it, but you've mastered it. Nice piece, well played!

My piece this month is Close Enough for Love. This is a truly beautiful ballad written by Johnny Mandel (who also composed The Shadow Of Your Smile, Emily, the MASH song, etc). It is from a musical called Agatha, a romantic story about the love life of Agatha Christie. I only came across this song recently, and immediately became obsessed by its unusual harmonies. There is a wonderful video on YouTube of a vocal performance by Fleurine Mehldau, accompanied (ever so tastefully) on piano by her (genius) husband Brad. Tony Bennett also has an excellent recording.

Close Enough For Love


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#2310298 - 08/02/14 04:33 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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jazzpt, that is absolutely lovely! What a great feel you have for the piece.


Edited by Peyton (08/02/14 04:36 PM)
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#2310316 - 08/02/14 05:18 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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OK, I really wasn't planning on posting in the Bar this month till after the recital, if at all, but you guys moved me so much and it made me so happy to see the Bar still flourishing even during a QR month that I just gotta, so I'll start small (one recording at a time, that is):

Peyton Amazing playing as usually. I really like this Phillip Glass piece and I can't imagine it gets any better than this. I think Coldplay totally ripped off part of it for his accompaniment on Viva La Vida, or at least this guy did in his cover. Check it out, starting at around 145 seconds or so.



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#2310357 - 08/02/14 07:47 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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Riddler - Heard Howard Alden play your Ellington Reflections in D, solo on the guitar(!) at the Newport Jazz festival. Mesmerizing. He makes incredible use of the open D string while weaving myriad different voicings around it.

More notes from the front to come...
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#2310366 - 08/02/14 08:24 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Congratulations everyone. I like listening in. I enjoy it. As usual, don't have anything individual to say. Just that I enjoy it.

Don't have anything to contribute.
Am just laying low here. The Rally officially starts on Monday. So it's going full swing now.
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#2310518 - 08/03/14 06:55 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Peyton: It sounds good. Not easy to play this piece.
Augustina: So beautiful. The Amazing Grace is such an amazing piece. Every pianist has different rendition.
Ladypayne: Springtime in my heart, touching. It touches my heart.
Kenjazz: Very nice jazz sound. I hope I could play like this one day.
Elssa: Very nice rendition.
Jazztpt: Your Funny Valentine is so special.
Teodor: The choir is so special.
Allard: Very good.
Riddler: Close enough for love, so touching. I feel the love. Sometime sweet sometime tear.
StarrKeys: You are professional singer

This is my submission:
Stream of Praise piano cover.
https://app.box.com/s/v9q9q1tm96d8rfvq61e2
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#2310555 - 08/03/14 09:31 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Allard- Nice. A very lively waltz and you are playing it well.
riddler- Beautiful! I can hear hints of "The Shadow of your Smile" in there.
Starkeys- Very cool! But not sure I agree about the Glass notes in there. But I still know what you mean. It has that mesmerizing repetitious kind of feel. Nice playing all around!
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#2310605 - 08/03/14 12:33 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Lady Payne and Augustina Both of your submissions were charming this month. You are so equally prolific in your contributions, in sync in your tastes, and play so well together, if I believed in reincarnation, I'd say that you girls both once lived in 18th century England where you inhabited an Austenian world and played the piano forte for small social groups like this and duets were popular. I can hear echoes of the period in your style and names and see you practicing in front of windows revealing landscapes that echoed the country charm of your Georgian ditties, like this one:



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#2310664 - 08/03/14 03:45 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Peyton

Enjoyed this piece. Modern and rhythmic, very 'in' at the moment with television stuff and that. Impressive visuals too.

Kenjazz

Always good stuff and damn nice sound you get there man. Great drums too. Appreciate.

Elssa

The Beatles did this too. But not in your inimitable style!

Teodor

Fine stuff; loved the atmosphere and Russian writing accompanying this. Very impressive!

Allard

Short and sweet man. Lovely. 9 months? smile Great looking piano too.

Starrkeys

That had a real Cold play feel to it. Well done. Excellent vocals too.

Just trying out Box on a tablet (can't use the computer for some time) so I'll get back Asap.

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#2310695 - 08/03/14 04:43 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: peterws]
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This is for the Box stuff. Had to register to use it on a tablet.

Augustina

Excellent work from the pair of you. So many ways to play this, there were interesting variations here.

Lady Payne

Very springy indeed with lovely fiddly bits for embellishment. A breath o' fresh air . .

Jazztpt

So smooth and laid back, l need a drink...

Riddler

Love this semi jazz style that would IMO be popular in most venues.

Weiyan

Nicely rendered piece of music which I've never heard before.

Good to see this flurry of activity here. Well done all!
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#2311007 - 08/04/14 01:58 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Originally Posted By: Peterws
Starrkeys
That had a real Cold play feel to it. Well done. Excellent vocals too.

Originally Posted By: Weiyan
StarrKeys: You are professional singer


Hey, you guys, I know drinks are on the house this month, but did you have to drink the entire barrel? Or do you really think I look and sound like a 6'1 Asian man with a pronounced adam's apple?

I did actually try to transcribe his arrangement in the video and got about half way through it before my Tendonitus kicked in. It was about that time I decided it was time to find a teacher. If I ever do finish it, I'll film myself singing it side by side with his video so I make sure you know the difference. [lol!]

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#2311444 - 08/05/14 11:29 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Here is another Duet me and LadyPayne recorded while I was visiting her in Alaska last month. smile
We didn't have much time to practice as we were busy sight seeing, but we sure had fun playing duets:)

What a Friend We have in Jesus piano duet
https://app.box.com/s/btl2aw9invbe5h569wz5
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#2311458 - 08/05/14 12:03 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: kenjazz]
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Kenjazz The fact that you can improvise such beautiful melodies and play such gorgeous chords and solo and comp with such ease after only a few years at the piano made me seriously question if I had the mind and disposition for improvisation.

I had the same reaction to hearing your Minority I had to this hearing this guy, who has been playing for only two years and improvises off classical scores (in a classical style). But I felt much better when I looked both of you up on the weekend and discovered that prior to learning piano you each had many years playing guitar, you jazz and he classical.



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#2311580 - 08/05/14 04:34 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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Interesting you mention this, l had pal who played guitar, left handed. He took up organ in the 80's and was earning money within a year.
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#2311921 - 08/06/14 12:09 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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An Alkan prelude


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#2312207 - 08/07/14 02:07 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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Originally Posted By: Riddler


[b]Elssa,
lovely arrangement of a great old tune, complete with one of your patented endings! Good music!



Close Enough For Love


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Riddler: Gorgeous jazzy song with both melody/chords! I need to learn this one sometime.

Thanks for your kind comments. Well, I usually have a fuzzy idea about what arrangement I'm going to play with a song I'm recording, but then with the ending I pretty much just leave it up to whatever I feel like doing at the moment - makes it more exciting for me



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#2312218 - 08/07/14 03:32 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Loved the singing Teodor, very impressive
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#2312354 - 08/07/14 09:39 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Another nice one Augustina. That is so cool that you two can get together and share music like that.
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#2312402 - 08/07/14 11:47 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Elssa]
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Elssa Another homerun! I'm trying to learn Jazz but I don't like a lot of jazz because it obscures or messes too much with melody with technical gymnastics. This song is an example of how your own heavy lifting always embellishes and highlights the melody. Having a limited range and ability to use even what I have very well while I'm playing, I sometimes use the flexibility of jazz harmony to alter the melody so it is easier to sing and play at the same time. The best jazz vocals like Ella's can make a old song sound fresher this way, but I've listened to many jazz singers do this song on youtube, and for me none of them top this version of the song which is 100% true to the melody.







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#2312405 - 08/07/14 11:49 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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The Newport Jazz festival was awesome, although it was pouring rain for almost the entire time frown Gregory Porter was there, and was just soaring. I posted his version of Skylark recently. He wasn't going to do any ballads on such a rainy day though! For us piano fans, Dick Hyman was there. He literally does not need to look at the piano while playing incredible lines interspersed with the guitarist and bass player (no drummer). Wynton Marsalis was there with the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra. This has got to be the top 1/10 of 1% of musicians in the world to make into that band. Great stuff
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#2312417 - 08/07/14 12:11 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Thank you Peyton, Riddler, Starr Keys, and Weiyan for your comments on Minority. Starr keys, that guy seems like he was just built for the piano. It is an extension of his body!

Peyton - I marvel at the total control that you are able to perform with for that length of time. I'm pleased if I can do it for two measures, and you are doing it for four minutes, and sounding good the whole time!

Augustina/LP - Amazing Grace just calls for jazzy/bluesy/gospelly types of treatments sometimes, and you two deliver on that by the time the song is over. Nice

Ladypayne - Springtime In My Heart was very uplifting and played with a light touch. Nicely done.

Elssa - Till There Was You is another one of my absolute favorites. Now this has to go on my learn-it list too.

Riddler - Close Enough To Love was beautiful. It shows your depth as a musician that this kind of genre-busting song spoke to you, and then you performed it with such subtlety and nuance. Really nice.

Starr Keys - LOL! I knew that wasn't you, unless there was something really wrong with my computer

Allard - Beautifully played no matter what the actual length of time was :-)

Weiyan - Stream of Praise is really sounding good! I can hear so much work going into your recordings
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#2312421 - 08/07/14 12:19 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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My first assignment to try to deal with the soloing at faster tempos issue is Blue Bossa. This guy is "only" 160 bpm



Blue Bossa Box link

Blue Bossa blog post
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#2312475 - 08/07/14 02:41 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Kenjazz - you should be happy with this assignment, you have created a very cohesive solo and as usual a really good feel.

I saw the line up for the Newport Festival , looked fantastic, pity about the rain.
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#2312482 - 08/07/14 02:56 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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Originally Posted By: Starr Keys
Elssa Another homerun! I'm trying to learn Jazz but I don't like a lot of jazz because it obscures or messes too much with melody with technical gymnastics.


Thanks for posting that, Starr Keys. I love Kristen's version as much as Shirley Jones' in the movie. smile Would also love to hear your singing/playing version of this song sometime. I think you'd enjoy playing the beautiful and interesting chords/harmony along with singing the melody, and you have the skill to do both IMO. thumb Just to give you an idea, I'm playing it in key of Eb (my favorite key), so the opening chords/progression along with the melody that I am playing are:

Ebmaj7, Edim7, Fm7...So you have a half-step ascending chromatic bass/chord progression.

Till There Was You:

There were bells (Ebmaj9), on the hill (Edim7), but I never (Fm7) heard them ringing (Abm7)....

There are other places you can use those nice jazzy chromatic chord progressions in this song. smile


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#2312494 - 08/07/14 03:17 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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Kenjazz - you should be happy with this assignment, you have created a very cohesive solo and as usual a really good feel.

I saw the line up for the Newport Festival , looked fantastic, pity about the rain.



Thank you Jazztpt. It was funny that they are all such superb musicians that they were able to adjust their set lists on the fly to include some "rainy day" kind of number. Dick Hyman also went for Sunny Side of the Street when it was coming down in buckets to get people laughing.

The founder of the event ( can't remember his name) told an interesting story. He said that the very first Newport Jazz Festival also featured pouring rain. The photos of crazy jazz fans sitting in the deluge to hear their favorite performers went world-wide, and that is how Newport became this big yearly jazz event.
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#2312635 - 08/07/14 07:58 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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I got notified by Google/YouTube that someone "shared" my video. Of course, I'm always flattered when someone likes or comments. I can't believe I did this in my "rookie year" as an adult beginner. This was the 2nd Joplin piece that I learned and it was the height of my piano obsession when I was practicing 3-4 hours a day. smile
FIVE YEARS later, there's nothing I'd really change in my interpretation either aside from getting rid of some of the flubs.


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#2312696 - 08/07/14 11:11 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: kenjazz]
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I'm almost embarrassed to post this as a reply to Kenjazz after his masterful recording, but here's my attempt at Blue Bossa anyway. This is my first music post and only my third post overall since joining the forum a couple days ago. Still shaky, but making progress.

https://soundcloud.com/wfeiereisen/blue-bossa-8-7-14-take-1

I've been back at the piano for about two years after having been away for more than 40 years. I took lessons as a child, and again while in college, but never progressed very far. These last two years have been great fun. I only regret that I was away for so long.

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#2312710 - 08/08/14 12:06 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: wjf]
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I'm almost embarrassed to post this as a reply to Kenjazz after his masterful recording, but here's my attempt at Blue Bossa anyway. This is my first music post and only my third post overall since joining the forum a couple days ago. Still shaky, but making progress.



WJF, I think this sounds great! I'm only playing it fast because of the exercise, but I'm much more drawn to the smoother sound and tempo in yours. You have very nice melodic lines and accent chords to end the phrases. Keep it going!
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#2312932 - 08/08/14 11:46 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Elssa]
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[Till There Was You] Would also love to hear your singing/playing version of this song sometime. I think you'd enjoy playing the beautiful and interesting chords/harmony along with singing the melody: Just to give you an idea, I'm playing it in key of Eb (my favorite key), so the opening chords/progression along with the melody that I am playing are:

Ebmaj7, Edim7, Fm7...So you have a half-step ascending chromatic bass/chord progression.

There are other places you can use those nice jazzy chromatic chord progressions in this song. smile


Thanks for the vote of confidence, Elssa. I'd love to try to tackle this sometime as a cocktail piano/vocal with some of the runs from your tutorial. smile

Also, thanks for pointing out the chromatic progression, and the fact that you can use it in more than one place--always on the lookout for songs that have this because they are generally easier to play and sing. I use them more than once in my accompaniment arrangement of Emily. But I'm afraid if I sung this it would have to be a smoky jazzy interpretation. No way I'm going to be able to sing it like Kristen or Shirley. frown

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#2312988 - 08/08/14 01:49 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Riddler - Close enough for love - another one new to me, though it's now wormed its way into my head and I have been going round the house humming it. Certainly a haunting theme with changes that twist and turn. Your version beautifully played and paced.
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#2312991 - 08/08/14 01:53 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: kenjazz]
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Originally Posted By: wjf
I'm almost embarrassed to post this as a reply to Kenjazz after his masterful recording, but here's my attempt at Blue Bossa anyway. This is my first music post and only my third post overall since joining the forum a couple days ago. Still shaky, but making progress.



WJF, I think this sounds great! I'm only playing it fast because of the exercise, but I'm much more drawn to the smoother sound and tempo in yours. You have very nice melodic lines and accent chords to end the phrases. Keep it going!


I agree with the above and would add you have great time, look forward to hearing more, well done.
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#2313259 - 08/09/14 02:10 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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Originally Posted By: Elssa
[Till There Was You] Would also love to hear your singing/playing version of this song sometime. I think you'd enjoy playing the beautiful and interesting chords/harmony along with singing the melody: Just to give you an idea, I'm playing it in key of Eb (my favorite key), so the opening chords/progression along with the melody that I am playing are:

Ebmaj7, Edim7, Fm7...So you have a half-step ascending chromatic bass/chord progression.

There are other places you can use those nice jazzy chromatic chord progressions in this song. smile


Thanks for the vote of confidence, Elssa. I'd love to try to tackle this sometime as a cocktail piano/vocal with some of the runs from your tutorial. smile

Also, thanks for pointing out the chromatic progression, and the fact that you can use it in more than one place--always on the lookout for songs that have this because they are generally easier to play and sing. I use them more than once in my accompaniment arrangement of Emily. But I'm afraid if I sung this it would have to be a smoky jazzy interpretation. No way I'm going to be able to sing it like Kristen or Shirley. frown


Thanks again - I can send you a PM about those other chromatic chord progressions if interested. I'm so frustrated with my Roland keyboard, can't do all the frills and trills that I want to because of the sticky keys.. Still looking for someone that doesn't charge an arm and a leg to fix it. Oh, well..

I think your "smoky jazzy" version would be great. I might even try to sing it myself sometime, but I have a very soft voice, so I don't know how it would come out on a recording - probably need to get a mike. lol

I really think with a beautiful song like this, any style would fit.. I especially love the Beatles' version with the Latin rhythm. Might try it with some kind of bossa nova rhythm sometime. smile

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#2313406 - 08/09/14 12:25 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Elssa - Thanks. I PMd re the PDF. Nice bossa on the McCartney version but a strange take on the lyric, sounds like someone's delivering a box of roses to him in a meadow. LOL! Maybe you have to be British. smile

Ed This is a lovely arrangement of one of my favorite composer's best songs. Gorgeous harmonies really compliment the melody without overwhelming its simplicity, and especially liked the bluesy part. Also listened to the Mehldaus' version and I agree, Brad's playing is brilliant, but overall my favorite version is by a singer-accompanist, the great Shirley Horn:






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#2313489 - 08/09/14 03:58 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Kenjazz, great job on Blue Bossa, my favorite bossa tune. Your lines are very lyrical and satisfying, the way they weave between major and minor. It makes for wonderful listening! BTW, I am surprised and flattered to see that you associate me with Reflections in D! Glad you had a good time at Newport, rain or no!

Weiyan, well done. I think it has been a while since you participated – please continue!

Augustina, Ladypayne, a spirited rendition with lots of energy! Well done.

Lean to tail, Youtube says this is a private video now???

Starrkeys, interesting how Kristen Chenoweth starts out in the key of B (Yikes!!!), then modulates to Eb near the end for dramatic effect. Works for me. Also, I must say, I have no words to express how great that Shirley Horn version of Close Enough For Love is! Thanks so much for the link.

Cebukid, a tune that really grabs me, has a good Joplin feel to it. Like you, I can' t think of anything to change. Great job for rookie year!

WJF, another excellent rendition of Blue Bossa! You play with great rhythmic precision, which is so important for bossa. I am envious. Wonderful melodic solo, I really liked the lines. BTW, welcome to the crowd of people here who have restarted after a long hiatus - we all wish we had restarted earlier.

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#2313703 - 08/10/14 03:42 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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Here are a couple of great old tunes from the Great American Songbook:

Someone To Watch Over Me (Gershwin)



Our Love Is Here To Stay (Gershwin)




My favorite singer/player: Michael Feinstein











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#2313829 - 08/10/14 01:44 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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Here is one from me. My version and improvisation on My Funny Valentine, written by Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart in 1937.
https://app.box.com/s/ie949yonuicjfj76i37l

Jazztpt - I just have to say I really love this "great standards" phase you've been going through lately. I think you're doing a great service to the young aspiring pianists and singers on the site keeping "the Great American Songbook" alive and helping a new generation to fall in love with it all over again. And speaking of falling in love again, I know you will with this:





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#2314195 - 08/11/14 12:55 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Teodor]
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Teodor I think you sound amazing. What an experience it must be to create a sound like this with others. Preparing for piano performance can be such lonely work. I read your thread about your doubts over your choice of career and piano pedagogy program and thought of Veda in Mildred Pearce who in this scene tells the story of how after working for years to pursue a career as a concert pianist, discovered quite by accident that her real gift and vocation is for singing. Interestingly, the author of Mildred Pearce, James Cain, prepared for a career as an opera singer, only to discover through fat e that his real vocation was for writing. This was lucky for him in more ways than one, since he loved to drink and alcoholism suits a writer much better than it does an opera singer. smile




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#2314232 - 08/11/14 03:15 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: kenjazz]
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Thank you, Kenjazz. I am locked on tempo by the computer-generated accompaniment and that has helped my sense of tempo greatly. It's almost like playing with a band. I'm forced to keep going through mistakes and I'm forced to find my way back to the right place in the form, on its tempo and not mine. So much more pleasant that practicing with a metronome. :-)
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#2314359 - 08/12/14 01:49 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: wjf]
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jazztpt: (My Funny Valentine) That was a very creative and charming arrangement. smile Care to share what jazzy chord changes you were using here?

Here's another chromatic chord progression type of song from the Great American Song Book (sorry for the poor sound quality).

DEEP PURPLE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Purple_(song)



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#2314568 - 08/12/14 02:43 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Elssa]
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jazztpt: Care to share what jazzy chord changes you were using here?


Not at all here's the chord chart from the iReal app.

https://app.box.com/s/io54ct1vle2kpd7i7rad

I usually make a few changes to these as below:

I play the decending bass line option
Bar 16 I play Bbsus b9 ( actualy I think of it as Bmajor b5 with a Bb root - and voice it that way )
2nd Bar of section B instead of Gm7 I play Eb/G , same in bar 4.
5th bar of section B I play |Ebmaj7 / D7b9 G7b9|
One other thing I do is on the turn arounds at the end of each section I tend to play G7sus b9 instead of G7b9 - ( again I think of this as AbMajor 7 b5 with a G root - and voice it that way)

I do the 7sus b9 thing a lot ( maybe too much ) but I really like the sound, Kenjazz had it sussed a while back , though as I say above I don't really think of it that way but that's just me. ie for G7sus 9b ( Abmaj7 b5 with a G root , I would use an Ab lydian type scale - starting on G of course )
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#2314574 - 08/12/14 02:50 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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Starr Keys- thanks for the YouTube link , I must watch that film again , great film and the piano playing is nothing less than superb.


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#2314665 - 08/12/14 06:15 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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Jazzpt, It's good to find another iRealPro user and thanks for chord chart. In return I'd be happy to post a couple of my charts. What is this app.box.com? Is it like dropbox? Are you able to post the actual .html file? Or is it restricted to .png of the chart?
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#2314675 - 08/12/14 06:57 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: wjf]
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I figured out app.box.com and signed up. Looks useful. 10GB of public file storage.

Here is a link to the iRealPro .html chord chart that I used for the accompaniment on Blue Bossa for my submission to the quarterly recital.

https://app.box.com/s/h0ce3wp2gtu2n244ap19


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#2314699 - 08/12/14 08:24 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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Thanks so much jazztpt: I always play this tune with the descending bass, too, but you've given me some good ideas for chord subs throughout the song. smile

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#2314930 - 08/13/14 10:17 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: wjf]
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I figured out app.box.com and signed up. Looks useful. 10GB of public file storage.

Here is a link to the iRealPro .html chord chart that I used for the accompaniment on Blue Bossa for my submission to the quarterly recital.

https://app.box.com/s/h0ce3wp2gtu2n244ap19


Hi wjf - this opens in the iReal app on my iPad but doesn't doesn't work on my PC.

I have this chart as part of the 1300 standards collection.

Cheers



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#2314949 - 08/13/14 10:48 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Lean to tail, thanks for fixing the Youtube video. That was a very exciting, spirited performance. Impressive that you can maintain the fast tempo with such complex stuff going on in both hands. Well done!

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#2314975 - 08/13/14 11:36 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: jazztpt]
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this opens in the iReal app on my iPad but doesn't doesn't work on my PC.



Jazzpt,

Interesting, thanks. I'll have to look into the incompatibility, because it will surely come up again This version comes from my Macintosh and I trade versions with my iPad regularly, but I don't have a PC to check.


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#2320592 - 08/27/14 10:27 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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...interesting how Kristen Chenoweth starts out in the key of B (Yikes!!!), then modulates to Eb near the end for dramatic effect.


Here is another comment I intended to make: The modulation in this song is so smooth, it slipped right by me on first listening. Thinking about that later, I realized it occurs at the transition between two sections, when the chord is a V+. The thing that is interesting (to those who are interested in these things) is that a V+ chord in a key is also a V+ in a key a major third above, so the key change seems seamless, if you'll pardon my syntax. Seems (that word again?) like a good trick to know.

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#2320603 - 08/27/14 10:49 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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Hi Riddler,

I just finished a Basic Harmony course earlier this summer, so I am very curious. I don't quite understand the V+ of the key a major third above. This is not clear in my mind.

If I put this in simple context, the V+ in the key of C is G7. If we take the key which is a major third above, that would make it a E major key, but the G7 does not fit in this key, so I guess I don't understand your statement.

I would really be grateful if you went over this with me.

I have the feeling I am on to something important and useful.

Thanks very much.
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#2320621 - 08/27/14 11:26 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Dennis,

Sorry if that was confusing. I was using the "+" to indicate the augmented triad, i.e, triad with raised 5th:

C+ = (C E G#).

So in the key of F, V+ = C+ = (C E G#), and in the key of A, which is a major third up, V+ = E+ = (E G# C), which is just an inversion of the same chord.

Right?

I'm a bit off-topic here, but this caught my attention and I thought I would mention it.

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#2320624 - 08/27/14 11:39 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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Ed, thank you so much for taking the time.

I understand perfectly. Everything I learned in the harmony course is still settling in my mind. I will add this to my arsenal of modulation techniques.

This is another exciting moment in the life of a musician.

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#2320708 - 08/27/14 02:38 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Originally Posted By: Riddler
The modulation in this [Chenoweth]song is so smooth, it slipped right by me on first listening. Thinking about that later, I realized it occurs at the transition between two sections, when the chord is a V+. The thing that is interesting (to those who are interested in these things) is that a V+ chord in a key is also a V+ in a key a major third above, so the key change seems seamless

In the vocal version of Emily I've been working on, I go back and forth between the Key of A and the key of C more than once. I use a C# altered chord which is a third above A to modulate from A to C and vice versa. (Note: I deleted my former post because I realized I was thinking about the relation between the I chord and the Altered chord a third above it and not about the V+. So Here's the real relationship for modulation)

I (in A) = A C# E

a major third above A: C#Alt = C# E F A B

C6 (minor 3rd above A) = C E A

Uses the common tone C# between the tonic in A and the root of the chord a third above as a leading tone to the new tonic C. Your first augmented chord in F uses the sharp 5 in the V+, the the 3rd in the V+ of the key of A--and then the root of this chord (E+) as the leading tone for modulation into Eb--is that correct?

Phew, hope I got it right this time! smile

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#2320770 - 08/27/14 06:02 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Starr Keys]
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Isn't harmony absolutely awesome !!! I am discovering a whole new universe and I find it fascinating. smile
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#2320804 - 08/27/14 07:28 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Dennis in Canada]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis in Canada
Isn't harmony absolutely awesome !!! I am discovering a whole new universe and I find it fascinating. smile


Yeah, and studying it helps to keep your brain young. Mine needs all the workouts it can get. smile

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#2320849 - 08/27/14 09:28 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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Well, besides the video I first posted here in this thread of this song, about 8 years ago I made an mp3.. I just imported it into my Studio 12 video editing program. I started in key of C and modulated to key of Eb. In key of C, the melody note of the song ends on C, so I held the C note with the R.H. pinky and below that played a Bb9 chord to modulate into the Eb key (V-I progression). (The modulation from key of C to Eb is at around 1:50-2:00).

TILL THERE WAS YOU



Edited by Elssa (08/27/14 09:37 PM)

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#2321058 - 08/28/14 10:40 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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There is a modulation in Emily from C to A (one found on the lead sheet, not one I did to adjust the key for my vocal) that uses a Bb7 chord. I play Bb in the bass, D in the melody and D Ab and F below it. This is a very smooth modulation because Bb works as the leading tone in the bass and all the other tones are found in the A major scale, except for F which is a half step (leading tone) from E, the root of V in A. Bb7 is a tritone substitution for the V of A.

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#2321577 - 08/29/14 02:53 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Beautiful playing there Elssa!
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#2321592 - 08/29/14 03:22 PM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: LarryShone]
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Elssa, smooth as silk the way you pulled off that modulation! Another instance of switching keys in a natural way with little fanfare. Sounds good!

Starrkeys, yes, I can see that you can use an alt7 chord too for the same modulation, and it also includes the 5+ (b13). BTW, I play Emily too, and I see now that the lead sheet in my fakebook (Just Jazz Real Book, which has a lot of alternative chords as options) has a Bb13 as an option for the transition. Sounds very smooth. I used to play everything by ear in the key of C, and only gradually branched out (kicking and screaming) into other keys. I guess singing has forced you to play in many keys which are comfortable for your voice, even though difficult on the piano. You should look at this as an opportunity to become an expert on modulating!

I am still playing around with the idea of modulating up a third using the V+ chord. I think the thing that fascinates me is that you can use the same chord to perform the same function in both keys, so when you listen, there is no sense of being set up for a modulation, it just occurs.

Here are two very brief recordings I made to illustrate it to myself. I am playing the bridge and final A section of Bewitched, with a G+ chord in the transition to the final A section. In the first recording, I stay in the key of C. In the second, I use the same transition chord ( G+) but modulate to E, and to my ear, it sounds just as natural.


The Chenoweth Modulation


Bar talk has never been so nerdy! Like Dennis says, harmony is fascinating. But I'm afraid nobody is ever going to write a great song called Fascinatin' Harmony. smile

Ed



Edited by Riddler (08/29/14 03:28 PM)
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#2321852 - 08/30/14 10:46 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Peyton]
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Originally Posted By: Riddler
Starrkeys, yes, I can see that you can use an alt7 chord too for the same modulation, and it also includes the 5+ (b13). BTW, I play Emily too, and I see now that the lead sheet in my fakebook (Just Jazz Real Book, which has a lot of alternative chords as options) has a Bb13 as an option for the transition. Sounds very smooth. I used to play everything by ear in the key of C, and only gradually branched out (kicking and screaming) into other keys. I guess singing has forced you to play in many keys which are comfortable for your voice, even though difficult on the piano. You should look at this as an opportunity to become an expert on modulating!

Yes, it's forced me to focus more on playing in different keys and modulating than I would have otherwise, but doing so has opened up a whole new world of songs I thought I couldn't sing because I didn't have the range. Sometimes there is only one key that is a sweet spot for your voice, other times you can sound good in part of the song in one key but need to modulate to be effective in the rest of it. And sometime you have the option of more than one key and can make the decision based on an aesthetic choice or how difficult the key is to play.

For instance, I'm just starting "My Romance" and needed to chose a key to create a leadsheet. F# is perfect, but a tough key to play in. E is definitely too low, F has one note I can barely hit, and G makes me go into my head voice at the end and ruins the smoky jazz effect of the rest of the song. In F, I only have to hit the problematic low note once, so I choose to fudge it rather than play in a much more difficult key. I really don't have the option for modulating in this song except if I do it in my piano solo, but I'll get lots of practice transposing. smile

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I am still playing around with the idea of modulating up a third using the V+ chord. I think the thing that fascinates me is that you can use the same chord to perform the same function in both keys, so when you listen, there is no sense of being set up for a modulation, it just occurs. ....Here are two very brief recordings I made to illustrate it to myself. I am playing the bridge and final A section of Bewitched, with a G+ chord in the transition to the final A section. In the first recording, I stay in the key of C. In the second, I use the same transition chord ( G+) but modulate to E, and to my ear, it sounds just as natural.
The Chenoweth Modulation


Well of course, I can hear the difference, because I was listening for it (I wasn't and didn't on the Chenoweth video), but yes I know what you mean. I like the smoothness of it for a vocal transition. Thanks for pointing it out. smile



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#2323897 - 09/04/14 01:47 AM Re: August Piano Bar, drinks on the house [Re: Riddler]
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Originally Posted By: Riddler
Elssa, smooth as silk the way you pulled off that modulation! Another instance of switching keys in a natural way with little fanfare. Sounds good!

Ed


Ed, thanks for your kind comments. smile Well, the smooth transition was helped by the old
"fat thumb" technique (play 2 adjacent white notes with thumb).. Modulating from the key of C to Eb, I played the R.H. C melody note along with the Bb9 chord's C&D with the thumb. thumb So, I put pinkie on C, then below Ab, F, and C&D with thumb.. Left hand arpeggiated the chord from root.


Edited by Elssa (09/04/14 02:04 AM)

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