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#2311181 - 08/04/14 08:23 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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I'm the Great American Songbooks/Show tunes kind of person smile

But I'd guess the next one is likely to be classical, so carry on! On the other hand, if 2 show up at once or something I'd do the above.

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#2311183 - 08/04/14 08:32 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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I'd vote for Schumann. His music is so gentle and subtle that it takes a while for the beauty to sink in. He's not at all in your face like Liszt or Chopin. Better for the knowing so to speak.
Also his technique is quite tricky but very pianistic and so well worth taking the time and effort to learn.

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#2311185 - 08/04/14 08:37 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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If it were Schumann, it would be a very simple choice. I would simply dust off this old piece from my teacher's book from 2011 and re-learn it for the recital. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2N7ycBfLzo. I don't know anything else interesting I could possibly manage from Schumann. I am certainly not interested (musically) in the Happy Farmer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKmpQjjQOBA. I'm not sure re-learning The Wild Horseman up to tempo is worth the effort.
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#2311200 - 08/04/14 09:02 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Originally Posted By: 8 Octaves


I could manage these except for Chopin. I'm at least two years away from the easiest Chopin. Don't imagine you guys putting off the recital until 2016....


Not quite true, I thought the same until recently but Chopin is accessible to someone of your level.

Extract from a graded list I have

OrSor Grade Composer Composition
285 -4- Chopin Cantabile in Bb major
288 -4- Chopin Mazurka in F major, op.68. 3
291 -4- Chopin Preludes Op. 28. no. 04
292 -4- Chopin Preludes Op. 28. no. 07
290 -4- Chopin Preludes Op. 28. no. 20
293 -4- Chopin Waltz no. 17 in A minor


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#2311202 - 08/04/14 09:07 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: earlofmar]
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Not sure about the others, but Chopin Op. 28, no. 4 is RCM Level 7. I imagine I should be able to learn it if I push myself a little, but I'm not in any hurry, as my current level is challenging enough for me. smile
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#2311217 - 08/04/14 09:50 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: 8 Octaves]
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Originally Posted By: 8 Octaves
Not sure about the others, but Chopin Op. 28, no. 4 is RCM Level 7. I imagine I should be able to learn it if I push myself a little, but I'm not in any hurry, as my current level is challenging enough.


Actually No 4 might be the easiest of the bunch, I can't understand the RCM rational but have stopped trying to make sense of how grading varies so widely.
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#2311250 - 08/04/14 11:12 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Does it have to be a composer?

How about a theme for a theme?

Springtime or Animals or Nature or ?
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#2311253 - 08/04/14 11:26 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: malkin]
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Originally Posted By: malkin
Does it have to be a composer?

How about a theme for a theme?

Springtime or Animals or Nature or ?
lullabies, nocturnes, dreaming, or night music?
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#2311255 - 08/04/14 11:27 PM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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I need to push myself to learn some more modern music. I vote for Bartok.
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#2311261 - 08/05/14 12:54 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: AZ_Astro]
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Originally Posted By: AZ_Astro

Schumann
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok



Chopin is the only one on this list that I have never had any interest to play (except for Bach, but there are other reasons for me to avoid him). But I don't think it's good to choose Chopin. His music tends to set one up for a bunch of bad habits unless one is ready for it and studying with a teacher. We can't all do the e minor prelude...

I guess I could open the Prokofiev book that has been sitting on my shelf for a long time and actually try to study something from it, although I never understood what people hear in his music... So I vote for him if these are the final choices.

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#2311268 - 08/05/14 01:32 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@Morodiene, what about Op. 18 Arabesque? To me it is quite musical? Or something from Kinderszenen? That's about kids, not for kids smile
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#2311272 - 08/05/14 01:40 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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Originally Posted By: wimpiano
what about Op. 18 Arabesque? To me it is quite musical? Or something from Kinderszenen? That's about kids, not for kids smile


I wouldn't say Schumann lacks musicality. Mainly there are 3 reasons why I don't like to play him:
I do not care for "program music"
I don't like music that is overly dramatic, sentimental or too literal
He's music is often very awkward to play, at least for my hands.

He was a fine composer, just not someone for my taste.

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#2311277 - 08/05/14 01:57 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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It's ironic because it took me an entire month to learn Schumann's easiest piece, Melody - I couldn't memorize it for the life of me, and my reading was too slow. And sometimes harder pieces seem to stick more easily, it's all so subjective.

As for Chopin, I still don't understand how some beginners can learn some of his pieces and play them quite well too... I've only managed to learn the first page of Waltz in A minor on my third attempt in a year and now I'm stuck in the middle and have to put it aside for a few more months. And the preludes... not easy either. Also, although I love almost all of Chopin's work, I find many pieces upsetting, unbearably deep and emotional.
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#2311278 - 08/05/14 01:57 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Haydn?
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#2311282 - 08/05/14 02:14 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Chiming in again -----I don't like Bartok and Beethoven somehow throws me for a loop every time I try him......I'd love to do Chopin if I were able smile

I've still got Schumann at the top of my list, out of the new ones that have cropped up Haydn caught my eye.

What about Schubert? I don't know much about his music (but then I knew little about Other composers chosen for themed recitals)

I'd vote no to a themed recital of all one type of music - meaning all lullabies or all nocturnes amd so on.....It is hard to listen to a lot of music that is so similar. (The Joplin recital was wonderful but speaking for myself, it was a bit too much of a good think in one dose.)

On the other hand, a theme of Nature, water, animals --- that could be amusing and might bring up a lot of obscure music that could be really interesting.


But ....Schumann..... smile


Edited by casinitaly (08/05/14 06:26 AM)
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#2311284 - 08/05/14 02:43 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: casinitaly]
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Originally Posted By: peterws
Haydn?


Originally Posted By: casinitaly


What about Schubert?




Now what's the obsession with all these Germans? I must admit I am less inclined to like German composers in general...

If we will expand the list I think Scarlatti is still a great choice for such various skill and taste levels.


Edited by outo (08/05/14 02:46 AM)

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#2311288 - 08/05/14 03:19 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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John Field?

Many of his nocturnes and rondos are really nice. Also, I've never played a piece of his.


Edited by noobpianist90 (08/05/14 03:19 AM)

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#2311289 - 08/05/14 03:22 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Haydn has some beginner stuff but Schubert?
I only know him from the most complex (but o so beautiful) pieces..

I think that (in alphabetic order)
-Bach
-Bartok
-Beethoven
-Prokofiev
-Scarlatti
-Schumann

Have the most accessible repertoire.

For me out of these Schumann is a favourite. His music is so human. Every piece seems to tell a story.

@outo, I don't think there is an obsession with the Germans, there are just so much brilliant German (and Austrian) composers (And even with accessible repertoire).

I would love to try something different though. I just don't know very much composers with easy repertoire.

@Noobpianist, not too much (available) repertoire I'm afraid?



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#2311293 - 08/05/14 03:32 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: timmyab]
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I'd vote for Schumann. His music is so gentle and subtle that it takes a while for the beauty to sink in. He's not at all in your face like Liszt or Chopin. Better for the knowing so to speak.
Also his technique is quite tricky but very pianistic and so well worth taking the time and effort to learn.

Very well said!

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#2311296 - 08/05/14 03:34 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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Originally Posted By: wimpiano

@outo, I don't think there is an obsession with the Germans, there are just so much brilliant German (and Austrian) composers (And even with accessible repertoire).




There are many brilliant non-German/Austrian composers as well and also with accessible repertoire. I think the German tradition is just often over represented in classical piano when it comes to choosing teaching literature, so the others are undeservingly left in the shadows smile

More names with lovely music and accessible pieces:

Purcell
Handel (maybe he was already mentioned?)
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella

Hey, I even got a German and an Austrian in there!


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#2311297 - 08/05/14 03:36 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: noobpianist90]
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Originally Posted By: noobpianist90
John Field?

Many of his nocturnes and rondos are really nice. Also, I've never played a piece of his.


I really like his Nocturnes (and I am in fact working on one now) but I don't think there's enough variation and easy pieces there...

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#2311298 - 08/05/14 03:37 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: casinitaly]
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smile


Edited by outo (08/05/14 06:39 AM)

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#2311299 - 08/05/14 03:38 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Satie was already done - his Gnossiennes and Gymnopedies at least.

And personally, if it had to be a Baroque composer I would choose Bach over all the others. Tons of material for every level - maybe even too much!
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#2311300 - 08/05/14 03:42 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: sinophilia]
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Satie was already done - his Gnossiennes and Gymnopedies at least.


OK

Originally Posted By: sinophilia

And personally, if it had to be a Baroque composer I would choose Bach over all the others. Tons of material for every level - maybe even too much!


And I very respectfully disagree and vote for Scarlatti! More variation in musical style there. Bach is always so...Bach grin

There is one Bach piece I will definitely want to learn, just not sure if it's too early...

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#2311301 - 08/05/14 03:43 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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I think Handel is a great suggestion..
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#2311302 - 08/05/14 03:44 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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How about a self composition themed recital?

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#2311308 - 08/05/14 04:55 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: noobpianist90]
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I can see us having multiple recitals going on at once. . mind you, it's hard to motivate myself without them. . . I've been going over some old Beethoven, and I find it boring (shrug).

Guess the recital is next best to playing in public. . . I suppose it IS playing in public really. It's been good.


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#2311309 - 08/05/14 05:04 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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So many interesting comments on the various composers. Maybe we can have a poll to decide what the next themed recital will be?
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#2311310 - 08/05/14 05:08 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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My vote goes to:
-Scarlatti (more than 500 sonatas!!)
-John Field (beautiful nocturnes)
-Schumann
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#2311311 - 08/05/14 05:16 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Ok, let's vote smile Please add your vote to the below (only one vote per person wink ):

Schumann - I
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella


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