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#2311318 - 08/05/14 05:40 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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Originally Posted By: wimpiano
Ok, let's vote smile Please add your vote to the below (only one vote per person wink ):

Schumann - I
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
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#2311322 - 08/05/14 05:46 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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Isn't there a poll function on this forum? We cannot edit your post (and quoting will soon become a mess if several people post at the same time), so someone should just be counting the votes as they come in, do you volunteer? smile

My vote:

Scarlatti


Edited by outo (08/05/14 05:48 AM)

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#2311325 - 08/05/14 05:58 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@outo unfortunately there isn't..
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#2311326 - 08/05/14 06:00 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@outo, I added your vote.
Let's not quote but copy, like in the previous themed recital thread.

Schumann - I
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti - I
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella
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#2311332 - 08/05/14 06:12 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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Originally Posted By: wimpiano
@outo, I added your vote.


Thanks!

We'd need to watch out for people copying different versions of the list then...

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#2311334 - 08/05/14 06:18 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Indeed, I'll try to keep an eye on it (Cheaters have won't stand a chance wink ).


Edited by wimpiano (08/05/14 06:18 AM)
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#2311341 - 08/05/14 07:16 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: jotur]
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Originally Posted By: jotur
I'm the Great American Songbooks/Show tunes kind of person smile

Cathy


Me too - there's a veritable wealth of great music - short and sweet or upbeat and exciting - in that incredibly extensive and delightful Songbook, the easiest arrangements of which are obtainable by even the earliest, fumble-fingered beginner...

Why not go non-Classical for a very welcome change?

After all, this is the Adult Beginner's Forum (genre unspecified), and not the Adult Beginner's Classical Music Forum...



Edited by TrapperJohn (08/05/14 07:20 AM)
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#2311342 - 08/05/14 07:21 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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If it is Schumann that we're picking, I'd probably only choose the arabesque. I haven't listened to all his pieces, but the huge works and the very small ones (Album for the Young) are not for me. And I'm sure other people would do a better job with kinderzennen.

So basically, if it's schumann, the arabesque is probably my only choice, kinda.
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#2311343 - 08/05/14 07:25 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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voting is the only diplomatic solution

Schumann - II
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti - I
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella


Edited by earlofmar (08/05/14 07:26 AM)
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#2311345 - 08/05/14 07:27 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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My vote goes to Scarlatti. Good thing about the Scarlatti sonatas is that they range from the very technically simple to those that contain virtuosic display of fireworks. smile

Schumann - II
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti - II
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella


Edited by PikaPianist (08/05/14 07:28 AM)
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#2311346 - 08/05/14 07:28 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@Pover, there's more to Schumann than that!!
Have you looked over Bunte Blatter, Album Blatter, Waldszenen?

And, btw, is that a vote?


edit: pikapianist, saw you aligned it. thanks!


Edited by wimpiano (08/05/14 07:31 AM)
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#2311347 - 08/05/14 07:31 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Hmmm not yet, don't count that. I'm interested in Haydn, Schubert, and bach/scarlatti since I haven't done much of any except bach. But still don't put in a vote for me, this is going to need some thinking :P
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#2311348 - 08/05/14 07:31 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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I prefer Schumann but could go with Scarlatti or Bach

please copy the list and add your vote

Schumann - III
Bach I
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti - III
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella
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#2311349 - 08/05/14 07:33 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@casinitaly, did you vote for two composers? Not saying you can't, I am not in charge, just want to give people equal chances. It might be easier to track the voting if we vote for one composer?


Edited by wimpiano (08/05/14 07:38 AM)
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#2311350 - 08/05/14 07:37 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Prokofiev!

please copy the list and add your vote

Schumann - III
Bach I
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev - I
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti - III
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella
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#2311355 - 08/05/14 07:58 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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I'm not in favour of the democratic option here; surely whoever organises this should call the shots. I'll abstain and go with the flow unless it's Chopin (had enough of him) . .cos my fingers aren't too clever right now!

Come to think of it, who'd vote for tvhaikovsky? Darned glad we did it.


Edited by peterws (08/05/14 08:07 AM)
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#2311366 - 08/05/14 08:51 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: peterws]
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From the current list I would vote for either Great American Songbook, or Scarlatti.

Themed recital idea - The Great Polyrythmn Recital
(all composers,genres...as long as there is a least one measure of polyrythmns)
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#2311375 - 08/05/14 09:08 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@JimF, I have incorporated both your votes is that ok?:

please copy the list and add your vote

Schumann - III
Bach I
Beethoven
Chopin
Clementi
Schubert
Heller
Prokofiev - I
Bartok - I
Handel
Kabalevsky
Kachaturian
Shostakovich
Mozart
Ravel
Debussy
Great American Song Book - I
Bartok
Scriabin
Haydn
Scarlatti - IIII
John Field
Purcell
Franck
Diabelli
Hummel
Satie
Casella

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#2311377 - 08/05/14 09:13 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: AZ_Astro]
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Originally Posted By: AZ_Astro
A broad selection of pieces at different levels is appealing for many. And Schumann qualifies. I extracted Schumann's pieces that are included in the "graded pieces" repertoire (can be found on this forum by searching) and then came up with the following. I didn't research any of this and did not attempt to edit anything below.

Opus 68 (Album for the Very Young) has 40 pieces, not listed here.
And, of course, Opus 15 is the delightful Kinderszenen series.

Difficulty levels are from 1 (easy) to 8 (advanced)

1 Melody, Op 68 No. 01
2 Stckchen, Op 68 No. 05
2 The Poor Orphan, Op 68 No.06
2 Doll's Cradle Song, Op 68/?
3 The Wild Horseman, (Wilder Reiter), Op 68 No.08
4 Sonata in G, Op 118 No. 01 Allegro, 2nd mvt
4 Reaper's Song, Op 68 No. 18
4 About Strange Lands and People , Op 15 No 1
5 A Strange Story
5 Glckes genug, Op 15 No. 05
5 Kind im Einschlummern, from 'Kinderscenen', Op 15
5 Reiterstck, from 'Album for the Young' Op 68 No. 23
5 Lento, from 'Album for the Young' Op 68/?
5 Abendlied, Op 118, no 2/3
5 Slumber Song, Op 124 No. 16
6 Arabesque Op. 18 Beautiful haunting melody
6 (Untitled piece) Op 68/30
6 Catch Me if You Can, Kinderscenen, Op 15 No. 03
6 Dreaming
6 Einsame Blumen (Lonely Flowers), from Waldscenen, Op 82
6 The Entreating Child, Kinderscenen, Op 15 No. 04
6 Waltz, Op 124 No. 15
6 The Wayside Inn, Waldscenen, Op 82 No. 06
7 Romance in F#, Op 28 No. 02
7 Charming Landscape, Op 82 No. 05
7 Canon, from Sonata, Op 118 No. 02
7 Davidsbundlert nz, Op 6, no 2
7 Novelette in B minor, Op 99 No. 09
7 Impromptu, Op 124 No. 01
7 Sonata in D, Op.118 No.2 2nd mvt, Canon
7 Albumblter III, Op 99 No. 06
7 Novelette in D, Op 21 No. 04
8 Abschied no 9 from Waldscenen, Op 82
8 Eintritt no 1 from Waldscenen, Op 82
8 Vogel als Prophet no 7 from Waldscenen, Op 82
unrated Bunte Blatter Op. 99 (I particularly like nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, and 10) No. 9
unrated Album Blatter Op. 124 "(I particularly like nos. 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 16, 17)"

Also:
Level 4 but varies widely: Album for the young op. 68
There are over 40 exceptional pieces in this set, but only the first ten or so are really for beginners. The cycle is a totally shattering profile of spiritual development, beginning with the innocently naive and childish nos. 1 & 5, where no shadows are yet to be found. With no. 6 comes the first small cloud (The poor orphan)[?] with nos 12 and 13 the cycle leaves behind the child's world. In the second section, the tone changes, with a contrast between the friendly A major of nos. 20, 22, 24, and 28 and the intervening pieces like the sad no. 19, the magnificently inspired nos. 21 and 26 the sinister no. 23 the excited no. 25. The last ten numbers are wonderful examples of the uniquely introverted worlds of late Schumann.


Great post! I also enjoy reading about his life and putting his style of composing in context. An example,

Quote:
It has been related that Schumann, as a child, possessed rare taste and talent for portraying feelings and characteristic traits in melody,—ay, he could sketch the different dispositions of his intimate friends by certain figures and passages on the piano so exactly and comically that everyone burst into loud laughter at the similitude of the portrait.


I think Schumann is an acquired taste and I'm still developing an appreciation for his music.

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#2311378 - 08/05/14 09:16 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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@Pathbreaker, can we note that as a vote for Schumann? wink
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#2311380 - 08/05/14 09:24 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Lots of great ideas here, but it seems like many have been OK with Schumann even though not everyone officially voted. I'm not terribly fond of what I've heard, I just find him too repetitive, but after a lot of listening I like his fugues and maybe one or two of the Novelettes, maybe the Carnival from Vienna (which would be quite a challenge).

So let's say we will do Schumann, and what are we thinking, March 15th, 2015 as the recital date?
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#2311383 - 08/05/14 09:34 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Wimpiano - I did actually vote for two ---- I didn't think it would be a problem....and actually Morodiene has just called in with the decision so... my second vote is a moot point now smile

Schumann March 15th it is !

So...anything by Schumann?
Same rules as usual? Meaning that we can sign up for one piece to start off with and then add a second that is not a copy later on once folks have settled on their choices (not that I'm terribly likely to sign up for 2, but I know others are!)
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#2311385 - 08/05/14 09:41 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Perhaps we should have gone with a Russian composer?

But really, Schumann is fine, and I would like to participate. Will start listening to his music tomorrow and hopefully find a nice one that I could learn to play.
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#2311386 - 08/05/14 09:42 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: casinitaly]
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Originally Posted By: casinitaly
Wimpiano - I did actually vote for two ---- I didn't think it would be a problem....and actually Morodiene has just called in with the decision so... my second vote is a moot point now smile

Schumann March 15th it is !

So...anything by Schumann?
Same rules as usual? Meaning that we can sign up for one piece to start off with and then add a second that is not a copy later on once folks have settled on their choices (not that I'm terribly likely to sign up for 2, but I know others are!)


Yes, I'll start a new thread for signing up. Would you be able to assist me (or anyone else who has done these recitals)? There is a format that is used for submissions, right?
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#2311389 - 08/05/14 09:46 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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I will help with whatever I can --- Andy Platt and Greener , or obviously Monica K! would know about the software. I just helped with the ones that had to be launched in order where the software wasn't helpful because submissions come in any which way, rather than per opus or chronological history.

Start the new thread and then I will lock this one up with a forward to the new thread so that the conversations stay where they need to be!
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#2311391 - 08/05/14 09:50 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Arabesque for me then :P haha when do we get to pick what pieces we play?
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#2311393 - 08/05/14 09:54 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Pover]
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Can we already make reservations? Since it's Schumann I must find something short and not too difficult (and pleasing to my ears) and I think I found it:
Romance, op. 124-11


Edited by outo (08/05/14 09:55 AM)

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#2311406 - 08/05/14 10:11 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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March 15th? So much time? Then it's Kinderszene no. 1 for me! Pretty please?

Ok let's wait for the specific thread smile
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#2311407 - 08/05/14 10:12 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: Morodiene]
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Hey in March 2015... that was unexpected. But Schumann! Great!!
The date that far in the future makes me consider not to "claim" a piece yet since that leaves (in theory) quite some time for practice and "progress" wink.

I guess Kreisleriana or Humoresque will do just fine. grin crazy
Right now I'm working on Op 68. No 14 and for the ABF Quarterly I was intending to submit 1,3,4 and 5 but I suppose I'll do just one in order not to ruin the Schumann Recital.
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#2311412 - 08/05/14 10:24 AM Re: New Themed Recital suggestions [Re: wimpiano]
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Guess I'd better get listening to Schumann! I don't know his work at all, although I have a vague idea that I learned something of his as a teenager. I'll have to have a rummage through my old sheet music and see if I can find it.

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