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#2319144 - 08/24/14 07:55 AM Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !!
BarryR Offline
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Can anyone suggest a stand for the Yamaha MOXF8..?? So far desks, portable tables and one stand I tried makes it to tall to sit and play...

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#2319159 - 08/24/14 08:49 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
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I own several of these and have been happy with them:
On Stage KS7150
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#2319182 - 08/24/14 10:14 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: Morodiene]
BarryR Offline
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That was one of the first I looked at ..(Online)..Its a foot short on the width, and wont lower enough (for me) to get the keyboard at around 28" from the floor...

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#2319186 - 08/24/14 10:33 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
Morodiene Offline
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Originally Posted By: BarryR
That was one of the first I looked at ..(Online)..Its a foot short on the width, and wont lower enough (for me) to get the keyboard at around 28" from the floor...


I think you may find that this is about standard for most stands. There's been discussion about this on this forum before, but if you need to have the keys lower then you either would have to rig something up yourself or do any further adjustment to key height in relation to your body with an adjustable bench.

I currently have this stand for my MP11: On Stage Z stand which gets from from floor to tops of the keys at 29.5". I didn't recommend this one even though it is very sturdy for two reasons: the height is only adjustable to their preset holes which I had to settle for the higher of the two settings without drilling my own hole, and limited leg room for pedals.

Not huge issues either way, but I prefer the table stand that you can make minute adjustments to account for uneven floors or specific height requirements. I do have an adjustable bench that has accommodated this shortcoming.

Now that I think about it, those rubber extenders are completely removable from the legs, and that would take off an extra inch or so from the height. You could replace them with rubber footings that would go around the leg and not add to the height to protect your floors.
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#2319191 - 08/24/14 10:49 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: Morodiene]
BarryR Offline
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Loc: Tampa Bay, FL
Thanks much for your insight...I will go to Sam Ash/Guitar Center today to see if they have one and try it out...(15% Coupon came in the mail yesterday, for Labor Day)..I am fortunate enough to have both in my area in Bradenton...

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#2319198 - 08/24/14 11:06 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
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http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2273277/X-stand_--_Variable_Height_usi.html

If you don't want to use an X-stand, a hacksaw (or drill) and rubber "furniture feet" are both inexpensive.

There is also the keyboard stand based on drumkit hardware:

http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/?fa=keytree

. Charles

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#2319228 - 08/24/14 12:19 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: Charles Cohen]
BarryR Offline
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Originally Posted By: Charles Cohen
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2273277/X-stand_--_Variable_Height_usi.html

If you don't want to use an X-stand, a hacksaw (or drill) and rubber "furniture feet" are both inexpensive.

There is also the keyboard stand based on drumkit hardware:

http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/?fa=keytree

. Charles



Thanks Charles...The drum kit looks like megabucks and up to 76 Keys...(although Im sure another piece of something would get it out to 88 length)..The rope trick looks like it works, but I wonder if a piece of channel iron across the feet would do the trick...Im gonna go the the stores in a few after a dry off....I hate cutting the grass three times a week !!!!!

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#2319287 - 08/24/14 02:52 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
BarryR Offline
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I stopped at GC and they did not have the KS7150 stand..So I bought the ProLine PL400...Its the right height on the lowest setting, but the keyboard floats freely all over it..Whoda thought it would have been so difficult...Ill return it tomorrow and order the KS7150 via Amazon..Unless someone can suggest a way to make it static without keyboard mods or two sided tape...!!!!

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#2319295 - 08/24/14 03:03 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
Morodiene Offline
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Originally Posted By: BarryR
I stopped at GC and they did not have the KS7150 stand..So I bought the ProLine PL400...Its the right height on the lowest setting, but the keyboard floats freely all over it..Whoda thought it would have been so difficult...Ill return it tomorrow and order the KS7150 via Amazon..Unless someone can suggest a way to make it static without keyboard mods or two sided tape...!!!!


Not two-sided tape, but there are rubber furniture pads that you can stick on the bottom that are grippy. You can get them at any hardware store.
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#2319322 - 08/24/14 04:40 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
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Originally Posted By: BarryR
. . . Unless someone can suggest a way to make it static without keyboard mods or two sided tape...!!!!


I have solved these problems, in the past, with adhesive Velcro tape. The "loop side" placed on the bottom of the keyboard, and the "hook side" placed on the top of the stand.

The keyboard can be pulled off the stand, but the sideways grip of the Velcro is quite strong.

You're making progress . . .

. Charles

PS -- you'd think _somebody_ would have specified a "standard keyboard mounting template" by now, and that all manufacturers would use it. Just some nuts molded into the bottom of the case would be enough. Dreams, dreams . . .

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#2319344 - 08/24/14 06:35 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: Charles Cohen]
BarryR Offline
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Loc: Tampa Bay, FL
Originally Posted By: Charles Cohen
Originally Posted By: BarryR
. . . Unless someone can suggest a way to make it static without keyboard mods or two sided tape...!!!!


I have solved these problems, in the past, with adhesive Velcro tape. The "loop side" placed on the bottom of the keyboard, and the "hook side" placed on the top of the stand.

The keyboard can be pulled off the stand, but the sideways grip of the Velcro is quite strong.

You're making progress . . .

. Charles

PS -- you'd think _somebody_ would have specified a "standard keyboard mounting template" by now, and that all manufacturers would use it. Just some nuts molded into the bottom of the case would be enough. Dreams, dreams . . .


Thats a real good idea, and I have plenty of Velcro around here....That maybe the solution...Ill wait a few days before trying it..Im evaluating the MOXf8 that I got just a few days ago...I was on the fence between this and the P105...This is a LOT of my head...I got it at 15% off, so I had to...

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#2319399 - 08/24/14 10:01 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
Charles Cohen Offline
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Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
Yes -- wait till you're sure that you'll keep it. The Velcro adhesive is pretty strong.

. Charles

PS -- edit -- I understand "I just had to . . . ". And the MOXF8 is a much richer platform than the P105. Have fun!



Edited by Charles Cohen (08/24/14 10:06 PM)

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#2319459 - 08/25/14 12:58 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
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Registered: 07/03/14
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I've been kind of thinking about one of these for myself (MP11) as a non-portable stand, and it could conceivably work for an MOXF8, too: IKEA GALANT Desk (or alternate legs, smaller dimensions).



They've got great minimum heights at 23 5/8 inches (60cm), and plenty of maximum load capacity. The big potential problem is the surface depth (as in front-to-back: 23 5/8 inches [60cm] for the smallest linked model and 31.5 inches [80cm] for the largest); I wouldn't want the keyboard to underhang in the front (such that there would still be flat table surface between the player and the keys), which would mean it would have to sit on an off-center axis, further meaning that it might be potentially less stable/more wobbly. It's probably crazy, but it is intriguing to me in the absence of any "perfect" stand choice for non-moving slab-style keyboards. Everything available seems compromised in some way, and probably for the sake of portability (which is understandable given the intended/typical usages of "slab" keyboards).

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#2319581 - 08/25/14 09:15 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
Morodiene Offline
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Starboard: I agree. I think that it would be great if DP manufacturers would create stands for all of their DPs so that those who want to have a permanent "home" for their stage piano they can do that and have it fit their instrument. Some do have these stands, but not all and I just wonder why. I think lots of people would use them since many end up making their own or making do with a portable stand when they have no real need to transport it all the time.

Someday I'll turn the old upright in my garage into a stand for my MP11. The body is in decent shape but the piano itself is not salvageable. Maybe next summer smile
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#2319785 - 08/25/14 06:54 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: Starboard]
BarryR Offline
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Registered: 12/25/12
Posts: 18
Loc: Tampa Bay, FL
Originally Posted By: Starboard
I've been kind of thinking about one of these for myself (MP11) as a non-portable stand, and it could conceivably work for an MOXF8, too: IKEA GALANT Desk (or alternate legs, smaller dimensions).



They've got great minimum heights at 23 5/8 inches (60cm), and plenty of maximum load capacity. The big potential problem is the surface depth (as in front-to-back: 23 5/8 inches [60cm] for the smallest linked model and 31.5 inches [80cm] for the largest); I wouldn't want the keyboard to underhang in the front (such that there would still be flat table surface between the player and the keys), which would mean it would have to sit on an off-center axis, further meaning that it might be potentially less stable/more wobbly. It's probably crazy, but it is intriguing to me in the absence of any "perfect" stand choice for non-moving slab-style keyboards. Everything available seems compromised in some way, and probably for the sake of portability (which is understandable given the intended/typical usages of "slab" keyboards).



I just ordered the On Stage KS7150 from Amazon and returned the PL400 to GC...

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#2320613 - 08/27/14 11:11 AM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
Abby Pianoman Offline
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Registered: 07/07/14
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Has anyone actually measured the minimum height of the K&M 18950 with a tape measure?.

There are confusing claims as to it's minimum height, with Thomann saying it is 650mm, and the manufacturer saying it is 670mm.
I have ordered one from Thomann, but have yet to authorise payment.

I need to know urgently, as it is not too late to change to the 18953 or the 18810 Omega.

Thanks.

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#2320645 - 08/27/14 12:28 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
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I have 3 of these Gator Platform stand.

You will notice it has a rubber padded base and it is compatible with the 2nd tier of the On stage KS7150. I have a MOX8 on one and its solid and does not slide. It will go from 26 to 40 inches (66cm to 101cm).
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#2320717 - 08/27/14 03:18 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: Abby Pianoman]
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Originally Posted By: Abby Pianoman
Has anyone actually measured the minimum height of the K&M 18950 with a tape measure?.

There are confusing claims as to it's minimum height, with Thomann saying it is 650mm, and the manufacturer saying it is 670mm.


I don't have an answer for you Abby, but I'll back up your assertion about this apparent discrepancy. I never noticed it before myself, but as someone still deliberating stands (and among them the matter of 18810 vs. 18950), I'm just now seeing--as you point out--that K&M's own site and product documentation (German, English) lists the 18950's minimum height at 670mm, whereas every US retailer I've looked at (B&H, Guitar Center, Musician's Friend) lists the minimum height at 650mm. Sure, it's only a 2cm difference, but for a stand that's already higher than ideal it does continue to add up. I too would be interested in any end-user measurements.

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#2320829 - 08/27/14 08:25 PM Re: Stand Suggestion For a Yamaha Moxf8 !! [Re: BarryR]
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In this case I would be more inclined to trust the product specifications on the manufacturer's website, however this can presumably be clarified by contacting K&M and Musician's Friend.

It could be that they are both correct, but measuring 'Minimum Height' differently.

Cheers,
James
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