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#2322183 - 08/31/14 09:34 AM Re: Beginners, see how good you are at tuning A4 aurally. [Re: Mark Cerisano, RPT]
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Well, my guess is your ET device has no stretch. Look for my video on tuning a good octave aurally coming soon. Also, try my suggestions above. Also, load Audacity and have some fun with it.

BTW, you can make the thread more concise by going to the profile of any user who is hijacking a thread (click their name) and selecting Ignore User.

Edited by Mark Cerisano, RPT (08/31/14 09:37 AM)
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#2322344 - 08/31/14 06:03 PM Re: Beginners, see how good you are at tuning A4 aurally. [Re: Gadzar]
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Originally Posted By: Gadzar
Mark R.,

Each time I try to speak of piano technology, I am disqualified by Mark Cerisano.

If you want I can give you examples of that.

Examples not required. Since you seem to have taken it upon yourself to comment and/or refute every post Mark C. has made in every thread he's participated in and taken offense where none was offered let me suggest you use the ignore feature so you won't be troubled by his posts.

If you're unable to do that and find yourself otherwise unable to refrain and thereby derailing every thread Mark C. participates in, I'll help you.

I hope this is clear.

#2324139 - 09/04/14 06:55 PM Re: Beginners, see how good you are at tuning A4 aurally. [Re: Mark Cerisano, RPT]
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For those who found the A4 test interesting, I will be creating a similar set of pages for tuning an A3A4 octave.

Before I start, I'd like a little feedback please. Not the "how good am I doing" feedback, but more like "this is what we would like the next test to be like".

If you don't care about the next test, if you think the approach is flawed, if you think the idea of setting precise octaves is overrated, or if you have any other negative things to say about what I am doing, please do not respond. This post is not for you.

I have received sufficient feedback to confirm it is something a certain segment of beginning piano tuners finds interesting and educational. I won't be changing the approach, so any negative comments about the method will be ignored, especially if they are confrontational.

What I would like to know is:
1) Do you think the range of pitches for A4 is too high? According to quasi RPT test standards, the 9 pages (A4's) marked out approximately as -640%, -300%, -120%, -48%, 100%, -48%, -120%, -300% and -640%.
Mark Cerisano, RPT

#2324258 - 09/05/14 03:09 AM Re: Beginners, see how good you are at tuning A4 aurally. [Re: Mark Cerisano, RPT]
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For me, the range was indeed too wide. I could pick out the flattest and the sharpest examples immediately, simply by relative pitch, without actually comparing the beat speeds. Even the second-flattest and second-sharpest examples were, I think, quite obvious (although I can't be sure, because one never knows exactly on which page one is). So in my opinion, the test would have been better, and probably more difficult, using a smaller pitch band.

Concerning octaves: it would be nice to hear the relevant octave test(s) and listen to the resulting octave (but I suppose that's your plan anyway?).
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