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#2327712 - 09/15/14 01:23 PM easy to move keyboard
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Registered: 01/25/13
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Hi,

Iím going to buy a keyboard soon. Iím planning to move it quite a bit (to rehearse and play gigs). Iím moving to London, and though the city has good public transport, I will have to use the underground, walk a lotÖ (I donít have a car).
Could you give some advice so that moving around with the keyboard isnít too tiring? Do you know what people usually do in this situation (if they buy keyboards that arenít heavy even if the keyboards arenít that good, or what do they do)?

Cheers!

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#2327730 - 09/15/14 02:25 PM Re: easy to move keyboard [Re: analarana]
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There's a lot of factors. Budget? Your overall strength and agility? What kind of weight are comfortable lifting? Will there be speakers at the venues? Are you going to be busking? Do you need 88 keys or is 61 keys enough?

The lighter units with 88 weighted keys include the Casio PX5S stage piano and Casio PX150 family. There are about 25 pounds in weight (12 kg). Some might use a rolling case, but that adds to the weight when it does have to be lifted.

A separate question is if you have to bring speakers or will they be provided? Speakers loud enough for a noisy venue such as a pub, will add considerably to your load. Do you need to bring a keyboard stand, and a chair? Or will they be provided? Again, more weight, more bulk if you need to carry them.

Are you concerned about security at the venues (especially busking) and to and from the venues? A person with an expensive keyboard traveling alone is a relatively easy and high value target for three thieves working as a team.

If security is an issue, you might want something much cheaper and lighter such as a Yamaha NP11. It only has 61-keys. If there is a chance that you will get mugged, it doesn't cost much, and won't paint a target on your back during your travels.

If the budget is near unlimited, and security not an issue, Nords are popular for gigging, and come in various sizes, but will cost you.


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#2327740 - 09/15/14 02:57 PM Re: easy to move keyboard [Re: analarana]
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If budget is less of a constraint, you might have a look at the Nord Electros or the Nord Piano 2 HP. Very portable, but not exactly cheap. You can get a very convenient and practical soft bag from Clavia for carrying them.

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#2327834 - 09/15/14 08:35 PM Re: easy to move keyboard [Re: analarana]
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If portability is your main concern, you have several options available to you. You just need to decide on the price/features. Sand tiger has already made some excellent suggestions about the things you should consider.

At the high end of the spectrum would be the 73 (semi-weighted) key Nord Stage 2. It weighs 21 lbs. It's about as fully featured a keyboard as you can get. It also costs about $3600 USD.

The Nord Electro is significantly cheaper, but still very expensive. It gives you access to the sounds of the Nord Piano Library, and Nord Sample library, and nord's best in class organ emulations. It lacks the nord stage's synth engine, and lacks that ability to do splits and layers (for many that would be a deal breaker). (The nord stage has a very robust system for setting up splits and layers, you can have up to 6 sounds going at once and split across various zones.)

If you just want something portable but are looking for something much more reasonably priced, the aforementioned casio's would be a great option.

At 27 lbs the korg kross 88 might be a contender if you need the full 88 keys. And at less than 10 lbs, the Semi weighted 61 key korg kross is probably the most portable fully featured keyboard you'll find.

The Numa stage might also be a contender for an 88 key keyboard. It's not as feature rich as some of the other choices, but it's under 30 lbs, and if you just need a good piano sound you might like it.

You'll probably get some other suggestions, as I said there are lots of options.

Bottom line: If money were no object, I'd get the nord stage. If money were a concern, I'd look at the casio px5s and the korg kross) If you're o.k. with the electro's limitations, it might be a good choice too.
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#2327836 - 09/15/14 08:37 PM Re: easy to move keyboard [Re: analarana]
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I, too, would be concerned with getting mugged with something like that. Especially with a Nord - that would really suck to lose one of those! Might be better if you have a regular gig to see if you can just leave it there (in a locked closet) along with your stand and/or speakers.
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#2328491 - Today at 06:40 PM Re: easy to move keyboard [Re: analarana]
analarana Online   content
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Thank you so much! I've never played a gig, so I'm lost here. That was really informative and helpful.

I hadn't thought about a lot of those factors. Do you really have to take your own stand and speakers? That's crazy, isn't it?

I'm basicaly short and weak. I'll be living in one of the most dangerous neighborhood in London (so might get mugged) and I don't have much money (when I put it like that it sounds pretty sad...). I won't be busking, but playing in pubs, etc.
The Yamaha np11 and the Korg kross sound like very good options (specially if I could use the np11 as master keyboard).

Can I ask what you guys usually do to move your keyboard, if that's no too personal?

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#2328506 - 36 minutes 11 seconds ago Re: easy to move keyboard [Re: analarana]
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Originally Posted By: analarana
I hadn't thought about a lot of those factors. Do you really have to take your own stand and speakers? That's crazy, isn't it?

It will depend on the venue. You'll probably need a stand at least.

Are you going to be playing solo or as part of a band?

Originally Posted By: analarana
The Yamaha np11 and the Korg kross sound like very good options

Very different boards. Assuming you're looking at the 61-key version of the Kross, I would say that the Yamaha will sound better for piano, and also the action is better for piano (not good mind you, but better than Kross) -- but the Yamaha really doesn't do anything except piano. The Kross is a worse piano, but it has a lot of other capabilities. If you like the Yamaha but wish it had more sounds and features, you could look at the MX61. Another light, well-priced, versatile board would be the Roland VR-09.

(and if you were considering the 88 key version of the Kross, the Casio PX5S is smaller and lighter.)

Originally Posted By: analarana
if I could use the np11 as master keyboard).

For what purpose? Are you looking to drive sounds that might be in a laptop or iPad or iPhone? Would you be doing this at the gigs, or only at home (relying only on internal sounds for gigs)?

At any rate, the Kross has more MIDI controller functionality than the NP11, which basically has none beyond the fact that it has keys.

Another board that might interest you is the Numa Compact. It's probably the lightest board with 88 keys, and while it's not a weighted action, and certainly not as good for playing piano as the PX-5S, I find it among the most playable of the non/semi-weighted actions for piano. It has decent MIDI controller functionality, too.

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