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#2328268 - Yesterday at 11:57 PM Pianoteq vs Digital Piano vs Acoustic Piano
wildpig Offline
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Registered: 09/06/14
Posts: 16
So I have been using pianoteq with my casio px120 for a few days now. And I haven't listened to the px120 built in sound since. Seems like pianoteq sound is much fuller and more alive. What does everyone think how it compares to a really good DP (roland v-piano) or a real acoustic?

I have been practiceing canon actually using the grimaldi harpsichord on pianoteq and i am hooked on it. Even this harpsichord on pianoteq sounds better than the one in the px-120. I actually haven't practice with piano sound for a few days. The sound from my laptop sounds excellent on a $70 Sony mdr-v6. I don't have any high quality monitor speakers so the headphone will have to it for now.

My px120 must 've hate me now for reducing it to just a midi controller
Current work in progress: Canon in D (John Galloway ver)
where: slightly past half way. cant quite do LH at 16th notes frown.
Piece done: Minuet G major (w/o trills.. will have to work on that)

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#2328275 - Today at 12:17 AM Re: Pianoteq vs Digital Piano vs Acoustic Piano [Re: wildpig]
peterws Offline
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Registered: 07/21/12
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Loc: Northern England.
From what I've heard on recitals over at ABF the Casio's make excellent midi contr'''ollers. Now my own piano is the DGX650 (not a lot o people know that) which I find better than Pianoteq which lacks bass IMO. But P has its strength in recording from midi previously played on the Yamaha. its fun trying out all the sounds. I may well change my opinion before too long if and when I find the right combination . . .
"I'm playing all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order." Eric Morecambe


#2328282 - 37 minutes 12 seconds ago Re: Pianoteq vs Digital Piano vs Acoustic Piano [Re: wildpig]
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Registered: 04/07/14
Posts: 27
In terms of sound, everybody will have their own preference. Pianoteq is a bit light on bass which is why I have a subwoofer set to max.

In terms of reproducing all the behaviors of an acoustic piano, Pianoteq and V-Piano are the only two "digital piano products" that get close. (See the DPBSD thread where they're the only 2 that passes all the technical tests.) Example -- you press a combination of keys, half-pedal, press some other combination, full pedal/de-pedal -- the strings of an acoustic piano will interact with each other to make some really neat sounds.

Pianoteq is also harder to play well. With the internal PX150 sounds, my son (8) playing seems perfect. With Pianoteq, you can hear all the imperfections -- hitting the keys too hard, pedalling too soon, the miss-hit notes are more jarring, etc. But when you do play well, Pianoteq's dynamics really show up. My daughter (6) has pretty fine control but without a wide dynamic range, you couldn't hear the difference.

#2328283 - 29 minutes 41 seconds ago Re: Pianoteq vs Digital Piano vs Acoustic Piano [Re: wildpig]
Charles Cohen Online   content
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Registered: 12/26/12
Posts: 1304
Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
I'm using the Pianoteq "Bluthner". I've _never_ complained about "weak bass" -- it's massive, IMHO.

Maybe my ears are faulty?

Maybe I've forgotten what an acoustic piano sounds like?

. Charles

#2328284 - 23 minutes 29 seconds ago Re: Pianoteq vs Digital Piano vs Acoustic Piano [Re: wildpig]
Charles Cohen Online   content
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Registered: 12/26/12
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It would be interesting to do a "head-to-head" comparison of Pianoteq against (for example) a high-end Kawai or Roland.

The problem would be doing a "fair" comparison. Do we try to make the pianos sound identical, using the "sound designer" features of each one? Do we try to get Pianoteq to match the "default sound" of the Kawai (based on a sample from one acoustic piano, I think), or the Roland default "Supernatural" grand-piano (which is based on a mix of several underlying samples) ?

It's not simple.

I'll be watching to see whether Pianoteq users (with whatever physical keyboard) migrate to other DP's with built-in sound generators as an "upgrade path", or whether they switch keyboards to improve the feel, and keep Pianoteq.

. . . I don't think we have enough data, yet.

. Charles


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