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I've been taking for several years now.

At the moment I am learning Bach's Invention 13, and Brahm's Intermezzo Op. 118, no. 2. My piano teacher would also like me to learn a "loud" piece, or something with a little more umph. It does not necessarily have to be fast, though I wouldn't mind if it was. Loud is not necessarily an attractive word for describing a piano piece, but English is not his first language (Russian) so I understand his meaning.

Any suggestions?

The major pieces in my repertoire includes:
Beethoven - Pathetique 2nd mvmt
Chopin - Prelude op.28 no.15 (Raindrop prelude)
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3

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Your repertoire list looks somewhat odd to me, because the Liszt is quite a few levels harder than the rest - it's way harder than the outer movements of Beethoven's Pathetique, which you haven't played (and which are 'loud'). Is it a simplified version? The original has plenty of oomph.....

Anyway, how about something completely different, as they say - like Bartók's Romanian Folk Dances? http://youtu.be/mg7gkUD3DkI (It's really not as difficult as it looks on the video).

Or try Paderewski's Minuet in G http://youtu.be/-hK3XoVdO-8






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Originally Posted by Tides
I've been taking for several years now.
Time to start putting back! laugh

Pieces with a bit of bravura, or a bit more than the two pieces you're doing, and avoiding Bach and Brahms, obviously:

Baroque:
Scarlatti, K. 141 (D Minor), K. 13 (G Major) or K. 46 (E Major)

Classical First Movements:
Haydn Hob XVI/37 (D Major) or 50 (C Major, "English")
Mozart K. 309 (C Major) or 311 (D Major)
Clementi Op. 24/2 (Bb Major) or Op. 40/3 (D Major) (might be tough)
Beethoven Op. 2/3 (V Major) or Op. 22 (Bb Major)

Romantics:
Chopin: Mazurka in Bb, Op. 17/1 or Polonaise in A, Op. 40/1
Schumann: Humoreske Op. 20/6 Mit einigem pomp or Carnaval Op. 9 No. 7 Coquette
Mendelssohn: Funeral March Op. 62/ No. 3 or Op. 38 No. 5 Agitato



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zrtf90: I think the Mozart D major and the Beethoven 2/3 are probably too hard. It's hard to tell from the short list given, but I have to assume the OP hasn't worked on a first movement of a sonata before if they didn't list it. So good starters for Mozart IMO would be G major K 283 or for Beethoven, Op 2/1 or 49, or even Op 79. Haydn might be a bit beyond too, but it's hard to say with the limited information we have.

Scarlatti is a great suggestion. Bach Prelude in B-flat from WTC I is nice too because there are some opportunities for "bravura" in the cadenza-like passages.


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Since Liebestraume goes from pp to ff, I would think it would be OK! wink At least, I play the middle section louder than any other piece I've played!

I second Bartok's Romanian dances, they are fun and a good change from what you've done. Without using the word "loud" this is why my teacher wanted me to take that piece.


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Hmm, a nice loud piece since your teacher is Russian, you could do the first Promenade form Pictures at an Exhibition. It also happens to not be fast smile.


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Hmm, a nice loud piece since your teacher is Russian, you could do the first Promenade form Pictures at an Exhibition. It also happens to not be fast smile.


Cop a load o` this . . . a band from the prog. rock era. You might like the second movement . . .!



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There is such an ocean of different between the repertoire listed, I'm not sure where to start. How does your teacher feel about Rachmaninoff? 23-5 is probably in line with the concept, but I have no familiarity with your abilities.

Why not do the 1st mvt of the Pathetique, since you have the 2nd?


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Thanks for the responses so far.

To clarify my murky repertoire:

I learned the 2nd mvmt of the Pathetique and the raindrop prelude in 2011-2012, but I've never been the best and most diligent student. My practice hours are inconsistent and occasionally lazy. I picked up Liebestraum No. 3 around Fall 2013, and played it in full and with some aptitude by March 2014. I've played other pieces in the time between 2010-2014, but those are the ones that seem to stand out.

I am a much more diligent student now. I think my teacher also wants me to pick a piece I can learn in the course of 3 months. This is at a university so I need to play one or two pieces with some decency by the end of the semester.

I'd love to play the 1st mvmt of the Pathetique, I'll ask him about.

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Chopin - Prelude op.28 no.15 (Raindrop prelude)

Has the drama and elevates to "loud" appropriately.








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Schumann -Important Event from Kinderscenen
Bartok- With Drums and Pipes from Out of Doors Suite
Brahms - Rhapsody in G minor
Debussy-Prelude from Pour le piano, Minstrels
Gershwin-Preludes Nos. 1 and 3
Grainger-Country Gardens
Greig-Prelude from Holberg Suite
Rachmaninov-Prelude in C# minor
Schumann- Soaring from Op. 12, Intermezzo from Carnival Jest in Vienna

Listen to all of these on YouTube and decide which you like.


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Hmm, a nice loud piece since your teacher is Russian, you could do the first Promenade form Pictures at an Exhibition. It also happens to not be fast smile.


Cop a load o` this . . . a band from the prog. rock era. You might like the second movement . . .!

LOL! That's some psychadelic gnome!


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Originally Posted by Tides
Thanks for the responses so far.

To clarify my murky repertoire:

I learned the 2nd mvmt of the Pathetique and the raindrop prelude in 2011-2012, but I've never been the best and most diligent student. My practice hours are inconsistent and occasionally lazy. I picked up Liebestraum No. 3 around Fall 2013, and played it in full and with some aptitude by March 2014. I've played other pieces in the time between 2010-2014, but those are the ones that seem to stand out.

I am a much more diligent student now. I think my teacher also wants me to pick a piece I can learn in the course of 3 months. This is at a university so I need to play one or two pieces with some decency by the end of the semester.

I'd love to play the 1st mvmt of the Pathetique, I'll ask him about.


Given this information, I think 1st mvt Pathetique might be too much at this point. How are your scales and arpeggios?


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Consider "Allegro Furioso" by W.T.Skye

Fast, loud, fun to play. It isn't difficult but sounds impressive.


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Dance in Bulgarian Rhythm no 4 by Bartok
Sonata no 3 in F major op 46 by Kabalevsky
Russian Rag by Elena Kats-Chernin
Moments of Plastic Jubilation by Matthew Hindson (definitely the most "loud" piano piece I know of! Watch this video...crashing loudness starts from the 29s mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzVtwSa2nek )

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Scriabin Prelude Op. 13 No. 1.


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