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#2333268 - Today at 07:10 AM Short tests of numerous digital & acoustic pianos
WaterDweller Offline
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Registered: 08/01/13
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Found this YouTube channel where someone plays a short few notes on a long list of acoustic (both grands and uprights) and digital pianos, recorded using the camera microphone, so you get an idea of how the speaker systems compare. Listening to this, it becomes pretty clear just how big the gulf between digital and acoustic pianos still is.

http://www.youtube.com/user/shimayachiyo/videos

(The video titles are in Japanese, but you can still read the model number in the title of most of the videos, and brand and model in the video annotations on the others.)

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#2333271 - Today at 07:33 AM Re: Short tests of numerous digital & acoustic pianos [Re: WaterDweller]
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It's like the difference between processed cheese and traditionally, hand produced cheese. Or the difference between locally brewed British ale and the stuff produced in factories by continuous fermentation. There are 'off-tastes' in the sound of the real pianos, whereas the digitals come across as processed-sounding - which indeed they are.

But a typical professional recording of a top pianist on a top piano will also have removed most of the off-tastes.

I think the Roland DPs come over less processed-sounding than the others - some off-tastes creeping in with SN sound engine. But perhaps that's just my prejudice.
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#2333325 - 35 minutes 43 seconds ago Re: Short tests of numerous digital & acoustic pianos [Re: WaterDweller]
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Another way to interpret these videos is to notice how much the acoustic uprights differ from each other and how far digital pianos have come over the years even if they have a way to go yet. I noticed in each case of a digital piano that its overall volume seemed to be a lot lower than their acoustic counterparts in the demo. It would be interesting to hear these comparisons with the volume of each digital equivalent to their acoustic counterparts.

I remember going to hear an acoustic piano and then going home and turning up my stereo playing an acoustic piano recording. At the time, I had a very powerful power amplifier and had turning out a few hundred watts per channel before the recording came close to the volume level of the unamplified acoustic piano performance.

The human ear hears "louder" as more full. There are a series of response curves called the Fletcher-Munson Curves that detail this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fletcher%E2%80%93Munson_curves. These are the reason that people tend to want to turn up the bass and treble when playing ther stereos at reasonable volume, and why there used to be a loudness control on stereo preamplifiers to do just that.

In the series of videos comparing digital and acoustic pianos, there was always a volume advantage for the acoustic pianos. I am not denying that is a gap between the sound of the typical digital piano and the typical acoustic piano, but that it is probably not as pronounced as these videos seem to indicate and am giving reasons why I perceive that.

I did notice that a few of the acoustic uprights really sounded full and resonant, while others did not. All the grand pianos seemed to have that full and resonant sound. For those looking to purchase an acoustic upright, these videos would be worth watching while taking note of those uprights that sounded full and resonant and more like a grand piano.

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