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OK, folks, here's where we can all flog to death those subjects that come up over and over again at the ABF. Digital vs. acoustic? This is the spot. Method books versus literature....self-taught vs teachers? Yes, even the great recital editing debate. Grab a stick and start whacking away. No rules here, but you get extra credit if you use only quotes from previous lively discussions to illustrate your points.....no reason to reinvent any of these wheels.
Liebestraum 3, Liszt Standchen-Schubert/Liszt arr Sonata Pathetique-Adagio LVB Estonia L190 #7284
So multiple editing of your recital piece (without telling anyone) is super OK?
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I think you've come up with Piano World's version of group therapy!
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I like plastic action parts and plywood case parts, MDF board too. Also midi files, nothing like the mechanical PRECISION of a well sequenced performance, lets get the human factors (mostly ERRORS) OUT of all musical performances.
Have at it Guys 'n Gals.
Flame retardant clothing ON.
PS Case resonances ? Yeah, could we just GET RID OF that annoying wooden box that physical pianos have ? I'm too old to dance on the lid now anyway and the rattles annoy me.
I love digital piano's with an un-weighted action and a midi input port. It's such a great tool for editing my Chopin pieces based on notes picked from Rubinsteins recordings.
I have been studying piano for three weeks and have learned "Happy Birthday" and "Brother John" by memory. I can't read music sheets, don't understand music theory and don't want to learn either one. Also I can't afford a teacher. However, I love Chopin's Polonaise in Ab, Opus 53 and wonder if it's too difficult to tackle next. I can practice eight to ten hours daily if needed... how long will it take me to learn to play this?
P.S. I want to do this for a recital next month.
Ragdoll
At first, she only flew when she thought no one was watching.
Can we do WNG action parts again and again and again and again ? Can we ?, can we ?, can we ? - - Oh PLEEEEEEAZE !!!!!
For the 100th times, people, please post your piano (instrument) questions and comments on the Piano Forum. This is the ABF Forum where we discuss playing the piano, and beating dead horse, apparently.
I like plastic action parts and plywood case parts, MDF board too. Also midi files, nothing like the mechanical PRECISION of a well sequenced performance, lets get the human factors (mostly ERRORS) OUT of all musical performances.
Have at it Guys 'n Gals.
Flame retardant clothing ON.
PS Case resonances ? Yeah, could we just GET RID OF that annoying wooden box that physical pianos have ? I'm too old to dance on the lid now anyway and the rattles annoy me.
See my previous post, for the 101th time, redirect you comments and questions about the piano (instrument) to the Piano Forum. Thanks!
Hey I'm liking this beating dead horse thing.
Oh, while I'm at it. People quit asking so many questions. Just SEARCH for all your answers. EVERY SINGLE QUESTIONS have been answered in the last 10 years and the posts are there forever. JUST do a SEARCH. Oh, wait a minute, that's what they say in the Pianist Corner. Not here. Nevermind.
I have been studying piano for three weeks and have learned "Happy Birthday" and "Brother John" by memory. I can't read music sheets, don't understand music theory and don't want to learn either one. Also I can't afford a teacher. However, I love Chopin's Polonaise in Ab, Opus 53 and wonder if it's too difficult to tackle next. I can practice eight to ten hours daily if needed... how long will it take me to learn to play this?
P.S. I want to do this for a recital next month.
Ragdoll,
Perhaps you are a bit too ambitious with your choice of music. Besides Chopin is for the weak. You need to get back to basics, and learn the Liszt Transcendental Etudes. You may also try to play some Hanon, at the fastest tempo possible. For next month's recital, try something easier like some Rachmaninoff.
Not too late. Better get cracking though and practice 24x7. I was told old people don't need much sleep anyway. You would do better if you have a weight 88-key keyboard, but learning on a 61-key keyboard from Amazon is fine for Einaudi at the Carnegie Hall, for the most part.
I have been studying piano for three weeks and have learned "Happy Birthday" and "Brother John" by memory. I can't read music sheets, don't understand music theory and don't want to learn either one. Also I can't afford a teacher. However, I love Chopin's Polonaise in Ab, Opus 53 and wonder if it's too difficult to tackle next. I can practice eight to ten hours daily if needed... how long will it take me to learn to play this?
P.S. I want to do this for a recital next month.
Ragdoll,
Perhaps you are a bit too ambitious with your choice of music. Besides Chopin is for the weak. You need to get back to basics, and learn the Liszt Transcendental Etudes. You may also try to play some Hanon, at the fastest tempo possible. For next month's recital, try something easier like some Rachmaninoff.
Welcome to the ABF (queue Twilight Zone music...)
Thats the spirit, 8 Octaves, but you are missing easy opportunities for extra points......for example.....
Originally Posted by LoPresti
Hey, db727, welcome to the Forums -- or should I write welcome BACK to the Forums?
I see this is your first post, so you can not be related to the user dbush2765, who was also new here a couple of months ago. I was helping that individual --
Apparently everyone who has the intitals db, plus a number, wants to be a composer, can not afford a teacher, and has hit the creative wall. Quite a coincidence!
Ed
Liebestraum 3, Liszt Standchen-Schubert/Liszt arr Sonata Pathetique-Adagio LVB Estonia L190 #7284
I have been studying piano for three weeks and have learned "Happy Birthday" and "Brother John" by memory. I can't read music sheets, don't understand music theory and don't want to learn either one. Also I can't afford a teacher. However, I love Chopin's Polonaise in Ab, Opus 53 and wonder if it's too difficult to tackle next. I can practice eight to ten hours daily if needed... how long will it take me to learn to play this?
P.S. I want to do this for a recital next month.
Not a problem!!! You can do it!!! Watch "The Music Man" and use that "Think Method". Can't wait to hear it!!!
I'm thinking of recording the Goldberg Variations for next months recital but never played Bach before. I just don't know what to do. Should I pedal Bach or not? ...and maybe use a metronome?
And how do you play those ornaments? They are kind of confusing.
Need advice. What's the best digital piano for under $100? Or do you think I should wait and save up for a grand? What's the best grand piano for under $500?
and I intend to prove that a teacher is not required to play Liszt's Transcendental Etudes. This is my personal thread to provide an experiential guide to becoming a virtuoso simply by practicing the
Technische Studien, S.146 (Liszt, Franz)
on a $500 digital piano and posting an audio recording every Sunday of my progress.
Bang on, teacher's are just physiological crutches anyway and expensive digital pianos are overrated.
and I intend to prove that a teacher is not required to play Liszt's Transcendental Etudes. This is my personal thread to provide an experiential guide to becoming a virtuoso simply by practicing the
Technische Studien, S.146 (Liszt, Franz)
on a $500 digital piano and posting an audio recording every Sunday of my progress.
Bang on, teacher's are just physiological crutches anyway and expensive digital pianos are overrated.
DING gold star extra point for earlofmar
Liebestraum 3, Liszt Standchen-Schubert/Liszt arr Sonata Pathetique-Adagio LVB Estonia L190 #7284
how many months of lessons do I need before I get really good?
I don't know... does it depend on your age?
Is it too late for me to start? I'm over 50. What do you think?
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
Anyone who would beat a dead horse is a sadistic, hippophilic necrophile ...
Well played That's a big list of crimes and misdemeanors !!
But I have been having weekly lessons with a teacher for 5 years on an acoustic grand piano. I need to play Happy Birthday by ear this evening for a party on a digital piano. Can someone send a youtube link or PM me ASAP ?
Are the keyboards with built in lessons and LEDs above each key that flash until you play the lesson's note really as good as the ads claim ?
I mean, like, could I avoid the cost of a teacher if I buy one of those ? I would like to play all of Back's (or is it Bache ?) music before the holiday season and a few holiday songs.
We'd have a lot less flaming and trolling if everyone posted under their own names. 8 Octaves, wimppiano, Peyton - why hide behind screen names? Particularly such generalities and derogatory names as these. And what has football got to do with playing piano?
Everyone in real life has to use their real name, and see how much more civil it is than online forums? I, for one, always use my real name.
Cruella de Vil
Cathy Perhaps "more music" is always the answer, no matter what the question might be! - Qwerty53
We'd have a lot less flaming and trolling if everyone posted under their own names. 8 Octaves, wimppiano, Peyton - why hide behind screen names? Particularly such generalities and derogatory names as these.
Hang on a minute, I can't help it if a mountain (Ben Nevis, 4409ft/1344m, Scotland, UK - still, for now) names himself (itself?) after me.
We'd have a lot less flaming and trolling if everyone posted under their own names. 8 Octaves, wimppiano, Peyton - why hide behind screen names? Particularly such generalities and derogatory names as these. And what has football got to do with playing piano?
Everyone in real life has to use their real name, and see how much more civil it is than online forums? I, for one, always use my real name.
Cruella de Vil
OK OK... so I like the name... from here on I'll go by my REAL name..."Brady".
And speaking of piano... Do I really have to play all this Hannon stuff to get good? How about I just spend about an hour's worth of my pay and buy a Steinway concert Grand? I can't help but be good of I play that, right?
It's about time someone came along to post this topic. Ok, so here we go........
Would everyone post how much they paid for their piano?
I'll start, I paid the full MSRP and was glad to do it! However, I'm starting to think some of you didn't. Oh and I moved it myself. That really saved some money....... I think.
I'm one of these guys who covers his piano. Saved there too, burlap is a very economical choice by the way.
I'm learning to tune my own piano. I bought "piano tuning for dummies", it's VERY thorough. I didn't buy one of those expensive tuning hammers either, crescent wrench and pliers work just fine.
I'm learning the Revolutionary Etude by Chopin Liszt or is it Shopping list? Either way, do you have to know the Bass Cleff?
Piano's are to beautiful too cover. Do not get a cover, your going to regret it. If you have wasted youre money and have boughten a cover allready, you should throw it out.
Ok, you've shamed me into giving up the anonymity of JimF...henceforth the real me...
BretF
If you're BretF I'm Joe Montana. I don't believe a word of it.
Cruella
Of course he isn't BretF--- -He's GiacomoF, we all know that!
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
Hi Blob, I think the bass clef could be useful on occasion. I don't have much use for it myself. Bass is so over rated. That's why I bought a 3'2" (100 cm) German-Guangzhou micro-grand. I also paid MSRP! High frequencies is where it's at. Ear shattering high-pitched bright pianos are the best. Just take Mozart. You think his piano has bass. Nope.
I think we need to get all the humidity prone wood out of piano design/construction. All this maintenance is an expensive headache, the thing is out of tune within a week of the tech leaving if I so much as make coffee 3 rooms away.
GET THE WOOD OUT !!!
COMPOSITE ACTION PARTS, plastics and plywood cases ROOL !!!
I think we need to get all the humidity prone wood out of piano design/construction. All this maintenance is an expensive headache, the thing is out of tune within a week of the tech leaving if I so much as make coffee 3 rooms away.
GET THE WOOD OUT !!!
COMPOSITE ACTION PARTS, plastics and plywood cases ROOL !!!
I am going to buy a 3d printer and print my own parts. They will last for thousands of years unlike these redundant wooden parts
Last time I beat a dead horse, I got COVERED in glue. No-way am I doing that again.
And can't I just take a pill to get better at piano? Practicing is hard work. I really just want the trophy. [We all get a trophy right?].
My favorite ever response to the pot makes you play better threads (from a 9-pager in PC)....
Originally Posted by gsmonks
Yes, marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug, but it is a performance enhancing drug, depending upon whether you're enhancing the performance or enhancing the performance.
Liebestraum 3, Liszt Standchen-Schubert/Liszt arr Sonata Pathetique-Adagio LVB Estonia L190 #7284
My favorite ever response to the pot makes you play better threads (from a 9-pager in PC)....
Originally Posted by gsmonks
Yes, marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug, but it is a performance enhancing drug, depending upon whether you're enhancing the performance or enhancing the performance.
I'm allowed to be confused right?
I have another horse to flog -- is it normal to play really well at home and then totally screw up when I play for my teacher? I'm sure he must think I never practice and that I'm hopeless.
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
So you going to change your handle to 4 octaves? good call though, I just called my tech and requested he eliminate those big copper wound thingies on the left side and replace them with more tiny wires, like on the right. I can't wait to play Mozart correctly! blob
I have another horse to flog -- is it normal to play really well at home and then totally screw up when I play for my teacher? I'm sure he must think I never practice and that I'm hopeless.
Actually, all teachers are trained in an ancient form of mind control which takes over your fingers at lessons and recitals. By inserting doubt and self-loathing in their students they perpetuate their weekly meal-tickets, which is all we represent to them. When I was six my teacher would scream "rounded fingers!!!" and then whack me on the knuckles with a sling blade. (no wonder some people think the path to pianistic heaven is pot and self-instruction)
Liebestraum 3, Liszt Standchen-Schubert/Liszt arr Sonata Pathetique-Adagio LVB Estonia L190 #7284
SwissMs -I saw LangLang permforming on a iPad - I don't see why you can't.
Giacomo-BretF or whatever your name is ... ouch! Scary teacher....I'm surprised you ever came back to piano!
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
I have an app on my iPad. Can't I just practice on that?
Real story. When I first told my DH that I wanted to buy a piano, he said, "Why don't you download and practice on an app first and see if you would really like to learn how to play the piano?"
-- is it normal to play really well at home and then totally screw up when I play for my teacher? I'm sure he must think I never practice and that I'm hopeless.
Nope. Ditch the teacher. Maybe your teacher doesn't have your brand of digital piano. Always find a teacher teaching with your brand of digital piano. We all know that all digital pianos sound and feel just like a 9' concert grand.
True story - I was messing around with the DP demo song function, was playing Chopin Scherzo or something when the UPS delivery man rang the door. I stopped to answer the door, and he immediate said, "wow, don't stop playing, that was so great!" I didn't know whether I should spend the 30 seconds he didn't have to explain the demo song feature of a digital piano or say thank you, so I froze and he dashed off before I could react.
My favorite ever response to the pot makes you play better threads (from a 9-pager in PC)....
Originally Posted by gsmonks
Yes, marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug, but it is a performance enhancing drug, depending upon whether you're enhancing the performance or enhancing the performance.
I'm allowed to be confused right?
I have another horse to flog -- is it normal to play really well at home and then totally screw up when I play for my teacher? I'm sure he must think I never practice and that I'm hopeless.
"Normal"? It is mandatory.
Currently working towards "Twinkle twinkle little star"
Where are the moderators? I want to report this thread, I cannot make any sense of it. Only threads that make sense to me should be allowed on PW!
Report duly noted.
I suggest you meditate on it for a while, perhaps while listening to your favourite DP sample track, which would really sound just as good as Argerich in concert
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Where are the moderators? I want to report this thread, I cannot make any sense of it. Only threads that make sense to me should be allowed on PW!
Report duly noted.
I suggest you meditate on it for a while, perhaps while listening to your favourite DP sample track, which would really sound just as good as Argerich in concert
Hi, I've been teaching myself the piano for a year now and I've made this recording of "insert horribly difficult piece". I'd like some honest feedback on how you think I'm doing.
Poster responds with a mild criticism of one of the hundreds of glaringly obvious faults.
OP posts some defensive bordering on angry comments and disappears from the forum without a trace.
Now that you mention it... If I HEAR FUR ELISE ONE MORE TIME I'M GOING TO....TO.....TO.... I'M GOING TO SPEAK UP AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT HERE ON THE FORUM!!!! NO MORE FUR ELISE... BAN IT!!!! STUDENTS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO PLAY IT EVER AGAIN.!!! I'm guessing if that ban holds then maybe after around fifty years I might actually start to appreciate it again. On second thought... no, not even fifty years would do it. I'm sure that even after fifty years went by, if I heard the opening lines to Fur Elise I would shudder and look around to see who's phone was ringing.
How can you even say that? Für Elise is the most beautiful piece ever written! It should be played by everyone at all times! It is the culmination of every piano player's career! Für Elise is so beautiful that no one ever need play anything else. We could get rid of all the music stores and the whole business of music publishing because no composer and no other piece will ever come close to the beauty and perfection that is Für Elise!
To honor this brilliant piece more and more each day (each moment!) I propose that we use "ür" in English to represent the 'er' sound eveürytime it is written. Pürfection! Bürilliant!
I must go pürractice Für Elise so that it is üready to pürform!
Now that you mention it... If I HEAR FUR ELISE ONE MORE TIME I'M GOING TO....TO.....TO.... I'M GOING TO SPEAK UP AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT HERE ON THE FORUM!!!! NO MORE FUR ELISE... BAN IT!!!! STUDENTS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO PLAY IT EVER AGAIN.!!! I'm guessing if that ban holds then maybe after around fifty years I might actually start to appreciate it again. On second thought... no, not even fifty years would do it. I'm sure that even after fifty years went by, if I heard the opening lines to Fur Elise I would shudder and look around to see who's phone was ringing.
After reading malkin's defense, put me down for 60 years.
To honor this brilliant piece more and more each day (each moment!) I propose that we use "ür" in English to represent the 'er' sound eveürytime it is written. Pürfection! Bürilliant!
I must go pürractice Für Elise so that it is üready to pürform!
How can you even say that? Für Elise is the most beautiful piece ever written! It should be played by everyone at all times! It is the culmination of every piano player's career! Für Elise is so beautiful that no one ever need play anything else. We could get rid of all the music stores and the whole business of music publishing because no composer and no other piece will ever come close to the beauty and perfection that is Für Elise!
To honor this brilliant piece more and more each day (each moment!) I propose that we use "ür" in English to represent the 'er' sound eveürytime it is written. Pürfection! Bürilliant!
I must go pürractice Für Elise so that it is üready to pürform!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...... etc.
Now that you mention it... If I HEAR FUR ELISE ONE MORE TIME I'M GOING TO....TO.....TO.... I'M GOING TO SPEAK UP AND SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT HERE ON THE FORUM!!!! NO MORE FUR ELISE... BAN IT!!!! STUDENTS SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO PLAY IT EVER AGAIN.!!! I'm guessing if that ban holds then maybe after around fifty years I might actually start to appreciate it again. On second thought... no, not even fifty years would do it. I'm sure that even after fifty years went by, if I heard the opening lines to Fur Elise I would shudder and look around to see who's phone was ringing.
Uh oh. I am playing Kuhlau Sonatina in A minor for the recital, and he sort of "borrowed" the opening phrase of Für Elise as a compliment to Beethoven, I think. Once you get past that though, it is completely different, so it is really not a ring-tone.
How can you even say that? Für Elise is the most beautiful piece ever written! It should be played by everyone at all times! It is the culmination of every piano player's career! Für Elise is so beautiful that no one ever need play anything else. We could get rid of all the music stores and the whole business of music publishing because no composer and no other piece will ever come close to the beauty and perfection that is Für Elise!
Totally agree. I propose we immediately start a sign up for Für Elise Recital. The rules are simple. You must play Für Elise at least once. You may play it as many times as you need, however, or even edit the music into a loop, but please for everyone to listen to all submissions, please limit your Für Elise loops to 1 hour. You get extra point if you perform Für Elise using every voice on your digital.
How can you even say that? Für Elise is the most beautiful piece ever written! It should be played by everyone at all times! It is the culmination of every piano player's career! Für Elise is so beautiful that no one ever need play anything else. We could get rid of all the music stores and the whole business of music publishing because no composer and no other piece will ever come close to the beauty and perfection that is Für Elise!
Totally agree. I propose we immediately start a sign up for Für Elise Recital. The rules are simple. You must play Für Elise at least once. You may play it as many times as you need, however, or even edit the music into a loop, but please for everyone to listen to all submissions, please limit your Für Elise loops to 1 hour. You get extra point if you perform Für Elise using every voice on your digital.
No, sorry Peyton, I can 't. You do have my deepest symathies though.
(mind you, I'm still rofl!!!!)
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
My child is not quite three years old, but I want to start her with lessons. She's showing signs she's a prodigy because she claps when I play music AND she can pick out the first four notes of Fur Elise!
Oh, no; she'd not like the violin! See, she performs this feat of virtuosity on her great-grandmother's 103 year old tall grand! It's such a wonderful piano, such good quality it's not needed tuning since Sears Roebuck delivered it in 1911!
My child is not quite three years old, but I want to start her with lessons. She's showing signs she's a prodigy because she claps when I play music AND she can pick out the first four notes of Fur Elise!
Don't be impressed!!! MY CAT can play the first notes of Fur Elise!!! I put toast in my toaster and it plays the first notes of Fur Elise!!! My door bell, just an ordinary ding dong door bell is starting to learn the first notes of Fur Elise!!! My car horn is starting to sound like Fur Elise!!! It is like fluoride. It's everywhere!!!
This thread is the reason we need a "like" button!!
I have seen this cat on YouTube.
Hey, my WASHING MACHINE plays Schubert! It really does - it plays a bar of music when it finishes a load. I'm serious. It does. It's because it's a SamSUNG, I guess!
(No, really, it DOES! The theme of the 4th movement of "The Trout"!)
Don't be impressed!!! MY CAT can play the first notes of Fur Elise!!! I put toast in my toaster and it plays the first notes of Fur Elise!!! My door bell, just an ordinary ding dong door bell is starting to learn the first notes of Fur Elise!!! My car horn is starting to sound like Fur Elise!!! It is like fluoride. It's everywhere!!!
Cathy
Cathy Perhaps "more music" is always the answer, no matter what the question might be! - Qwerty53
You mean I have to have a piano at home to take lessons? I have an app on my iPad. Can't I just practice on that?
Which iPad do you have? You will need the iPad 4 with Bluetooth v4. iPad 3, maybe, but iPad 2 or older, forget it. The app runs with too much lag on the old iPad 2. Please bring your iPad 3 or newer with you on your next lesson, and you'll be set. With my Revolutionary Piano Method (TM), you will be a virtuoso in no time. I take Apple Pay.
Note: My Revolutionary Piano Method (TM) coming to Samsung Galaxy Tab soon!
You mean I have to have a piano at home to take lessons? I have an app on my iPad. Can't I just practice on that?
Good point, i-devices of various sorts have rendered manual "playing" of music (as done in previous centuries) a redundant skill. The computer revolution (sic) allows us to enter notes, copy/paste, without ever sounding a note with a PHYSICAL instrument, then release our creations via You tube. Desktop composing & editing has replaced the spare bedroom multi-track tape player/recorder, I think we ARE "there yet". Forget scales and drills.
BTW, I do HAVE a 3D printer, I built it from a kit of parts starting in early July, I've been twiddling the settings ever since. Kinda odd, it needs "TUNING" (although technoids call it "calibrating") quite frequently and it does seem to be quite sensitive to humidity and temperature. There are some "case parts" that were PRE_SI_SHUN laser cut from melamine, a wood fiber material (-:
I'll see how it performs in DRY February. Chances are it will need a couple of hours of "Calibration" two or three times a year.... Hmmm, this sounds familiar.
I'm still in my mother's womb. Is it too late for me to become a concert pianist? What should I play for my conservatory audition?
It's very important that you tell your mother to play you lots and lots of Mozart (especially K448, which has been proven to help the grey cells to multiply - read about 'The Mozart Effect') and good classical music 24/7. She can strap the small MP3 speakers to her expanding bump, so that you hear the music clearly through the, er, liquid around you.
By the time you're born, you'll already be a fully-fledged child prodigy, ready to take on the world. For your conservatory audition at age four, you should play Rach 3.
Where can I buy some talent? I just turned 48 and I decided that I want to start playing the piano for profession. I know I could just do the 10 000 hours, but I really don't have time for that...
This acoustic piano has a REALLY screwed up volume control. A pedal instead of a knob or slider and it turns the volume DOWN instead of up when I press it. I can make it louder by pressing the keys harder/faster, but then the whole tone changes. Which leads me to another issue, I can't find the EQ controls either - whats with THAT ?
Can this be repaired by a tech and how much do they charge ? Under $12 an hour, I hope.
So I bought a wrench and I'm going to tune my piano myself using a guitar tuning app on the iPad. Can I make this into a profession?
YES, absolutely. Just don't forget to bring some WD-40 and a hammer. Sometimes those shiny pin things don't like to turn easily and need to be soaked in lubricant for a few hours. A whack or two with the hammer after that and they shouldn't give you any more trouble.
Why do people say I should cover myself when I am performing? I would much rather wear a tiny bikini or just my party shoes, then I could really be myself and show my full personality!
Why do people say I should cover myself when I am performing? I would much rather wear a tiny bikini or just my party shoes, then I could really be myself and show my full personality!
outo, Two words....'DO IT'!
Actually, I'd like to add two more words in addition to the other two....'VIDEO CAMERA'!
Please put the first two together with the second two and create a little magic for us. Who knows, you may be onto something here.
I think this thread is really interesting and I totally feel for the OP. Reading this thread has put me in mind of something that is almost related but not really. But still, I can't help mentioning it. I realize a new thread might be appropriate, but, hey, this one is already started so let's talk about me for a while...
[I resemble this remark - sorry everyone]
Piano: 1905 Heintzman Upright Time in: 3 years! Wow!
Why do people say I should cover myself when I am performing? I would much rather wear a tiny bikini or just my party shoes, then I could really be myself and show my full personality!
You should talk to my mom. She's a prude. I wanted to dress like that woman in that video for my upcoming recital. She said, no, you're thirteen years old. But everyone tells me I could pass for sixteen, I said. She said, even more reason. I said, well, how old DO I have to be? It's just entertainment. She said, entertainment for whom? Sheesh.
Yamaha C3X In summer, the song sings itself. --William Carlos Williams
Why do people say I should cover myself when I am performing? I would much rather wear a tiny bikini or just my party shoes, then I could really be myself and show my full personality!
outo, Two words....'DO IT'!
Actually, I'd like to add two more words in addition to the other two....'VIDEO CAMERA'!
Please put the first two together with the second two and create a little magic for us. Who knows, you may be onto something here.
But I have been told I am only allowed to play half naked when I can play Rach 3 and all of the Chopin etudes...which would be NEVER
I am pretty sure that I have ebola, and hepatitis C, and autism and herpes along with my chronic arthritis, diabetes, and hemorrhoids. It seems like these conditions are starting to affect my playing because I have some numbness in my fingers and paralysis on the left side. I don't have a doctor or a piano teacher, so I am looking for help from strangers on the internet. What do you recommend?
I am pretty sure that I have ebola, and hepatitis C, and autism and herpes along with my chronic arthritis, diabetes, and hemorrhoids. It seems like these conditions are starting to affect my playing because I have some numbness in my fingers and paralysis on the left side. I don't have a doctor or a piano teacher, so I am looking for help from strangers on the internet. What do you recommend?
Preparation H or cold compresses - the hemorrhoids are the real problem here the rest of your ailments are minor, at best - in blunt terms you just can't sit still - your constant squirming intended to relieve your discomfort is indirectly but negatively affecting your finger movements - if this doesn't work surgery may be called for - which could be a real pain in that so-called "sunless region"...but you'll play better.
BTW - your spelling of hemorrhoids are so bizarre that it must be correct!
Every difficulty slurred over will be a ghost to disturb your repose later on. Frederic Chopin
Current favorite bumper sticker: Wag more, bark less.
So there are 3 pages of people making fun of other folks having the ignorance and audacity to ask questions that you all, in your infinite wisdom already have the answer to.
Back when I worked full time on computers we had people who thought the same thing about the poor unwashed that didn't have our shared wisdom about computers.
It made me uncomfortable then and it does now. Making a joke of other people who are in the early stages of music is pretty snarky to me and is surprising in this forum. New people reading this may well hesitate to post here for the fear of being branded one of the hilarious proles.
Making fun of people you don't know is never funny to me.
While I see your point, Roger Ransom, there was a specific context for this thread. It was aimed, in fact, at a *long* running discussion/debate that many of the *regulars* have been having, and were having again. And it was a way of defusing some of the, um, high spirits that debate engenders. And the OP is hysterical, frankly.
The ABF is a community, like any other community. It has in-jokes, antagonisms, and also a great sense of camaradeie. Poking fun at itself is one way it recognizes its foibles, and a non-violent one at that.
So, as in *any* community, there is context for each and every thread, and folks who are brand new, or less involved, are going miss that. And I think that you aren't around as often and missed the context for this one. For that matter, there were a couple of posters who were strangers to me who are in the same boat.
As a matter of fact, the person who revived this thread after it died a natural death has not posted in the ABF ever/maybe a *long* time ago, and hadn't a clue.
JimF noted then the purpose of the thread. And since, it's gotten over the top, because it was let lose from it's context. So over the top, in fact, that I can't imagine someone new even beginning to take it as serious criticism.
So I think to criticize the thread is being on a horse a little too high in this case.
And, no, I don't think every thread has to be understood by every person who comes along and doesn't know it's context. *Any* community has to be participated in for awhile before it makes sense. It's why cultural anthropologists go live with communities for a year or more (or maybe Jane Goodall would be a better example in this case) before they begin to draw conclusions about how a community work.
So this is longer than it needs to be, but I don't have time to write a shorter post, as the saying goes.
Cathy
Cathy Perhaps "more music" is always the answer, no matter what the question might be! - Qwerty53
Roger, your concern is very kindly meant, and appreciated.
I do think though that Cathy has summed up this thread really well - it is not at all malicious or mocking of newcomers.
I might just add that we're actually making fun of ourselves. My own posts on "I never play well for my teacher" was written as a joke, but it IS a fact most of us deal with regularly!
I can see that you took the thread seriously, but that surprises me, because I honestly think that it is so over the top that it wouldn't be taken as anything other than a light-hearted look at our common struggles, our hubris in wanting to take on pieces that are well above our level just because we love them, and many, many other things that are commonly discussed (in all seriousness) within this forum.
Questions from new comers to the ABF are never jeered at, and we certainly don't poke fun at anyone's problems - we have the deepest sympathy for the struggles of adult beginners at any point in their journey because that's exactly who WE are.
At the same time we're able to laugh at ourselves.
This is meant solely and purely as a little escape valve for some (very) unusual tensions that were building up our community.
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
Yea, maybe this thread should be subtitled "The "over the Top, not meant to hurt anyone's feelings" thread. I mean really... I won't REALLY jump off a bridge screaming "NO.NO. NO .NO " if one more person puts up the first five measures of Fur Elise. And my toaster REALLY doesn't play Fur Elise. But my doorbell did learn it as did my car horn. And my cat can play the first few measures. I have to pay her off every morning with extra kibits just to stay away from my piano. But I think she's secretly learning "Stairway to Heaven" at night. I could swear I heard it last night while I was sleeping.
Yea, maybe this thread should be subtitled "The "over the Top, not meant to hurt anyone's feelings" thread. I mean really... I won't REALLY jump off a bridge screaming "NO.NO. NO .NO " if one more person puts up the first five measures of Fur Elise. And my toaster REALLY doesn't play Fur Elise. But my doorbell did learn it as did my car horn. And my cat can play the first few measures. I have to pay her off every morning with extra kibits just to stay away from my piano. But I think she's secretly learning "Stairway to Heaven" at night. I could swear I heard it last night while I was sleeping.
Stairway to heaven? No , not your cat - that would be one of Mr. Super-Hunky's llamas who has sneaked in while you're asleep!
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
Stairway to heaven? No , not your cat - that would be one of Mr. Super-Hunky's llamas who has sneaked in while you're asleep!
Well then, things have gotten worse than I thought. Where is the firewall?? I demand protection!! I just may have to quit the forum. Again. But I will come back at some point and give everyone another chance. Before I get angry and quit...again. But I will be sure to post a BIG THREAD declaring that I'm quitting because I KNOW everyone will care. But then I will be back...again. Unless Mr. Super Hunky's llamas are still on the loose. In which case I'll quit...again.
First of all I have been participating on Piano World off and on, mostly off lately, for years and love the tone. It's unique among the forums I participate in.
There were actually 2 reasons I posted my comments.
One was that I remember when I was first starting in piano 64 years ago, I heard and learned Fur Elise and I was very excited about it and I expect that, even though we (including me) have heard it a zillion times) new people may well be very happy and proud that they have learned it, they have not heard it a zillion times. This is just one of many similar things discussed here.
The other was that a new poster made a comment on one of the other furums (fora?) referring to "The unbelievably snarky 'beat a dead horse' thread". That made me realize that it's purpose may not be getting across to everyone.
Additionally, my comments about computer 'techs' essentially making fun of non-techs brought back old memories from my working years in tech support.
I've always found people on the ABF to be kind and gracious in their responses to newcomers. But it's asking a lot of people on the forum to never let loose and have some fun coming up with extreme and over-the-top responses to commonly asked questions. Again, the proof is in the pudding--look at page after page of posts in the ABF--this is a most gracious, welcoming, and encouraging community.
Roger, I don't know if you're a regular reader of some of the other PW forums, but if you are, you'll recognize that quite a number of the posts to this thread have their inspiration in those other sub-forums, where tensions often seem to be high and things go south on a regular basis.
Yamaha C3X In summer, the song sings itself. --William Carlos Williams
Well, after careful thought, I think that this recital I'll submit "Please Mr. Custer, I don't wanna go" the way a horse would play it rather than "Fur Elise".
Roger, I don't know if you're a regular reader of some of the other PW forums, but if you are, you'll recognize that quite a number of the posts to this thread have their inspiration in those other sub-forums, where tensions often seem to be high and things go south on a regular basis.
I am a reader of some of the other ones and your correct and they sure do go south in a hurry. I also participate in some other forums that you would think would be innocuous but somehow rarely are. It's discouraging to me.
Anyway, I'm content here and was just making an observation. No more than that.
As the OP, I take your point completely, and have had somewhat similar thoughts as the thread evolved sort of a life of its own. That said, I think Cathy has summed up the intent and spirit correctly, and I wouldn't make too much out of some people's attempts at humor....some people just aren't funny, you know?
Anyway, point taken. (It would have been a better point, and gotten bonus consideration, had you used quotations from a previous thread to make your arguments )
Jim
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I can certainly understand Rogers viewpoint, and can equally appreciate Cathys as well.
This may be one of those times in which both differing viewpoints are equally valid and as a result, both should be respected.
Friends, even 'internet' friends can become 'frienimies' very easily if their words are taken out of context. Or maybe the words had a little spit contained in them to begin with.
In any event, we could probably poke each other with a stick once in a while if the end result is a stronger relationship as a result.
But if the end result leads to hurt feelings, then any reasonable person would probably stop and choose a better plan.
Words are cheap, but they can turn out expensive. Choose them wisely and don't underestimate how much power that can be contained within them. Sometimes, they can really affect the other person. Even if said in 'jest'.
Stairway to heaven? No , not your cat - that would be one of Mr. Super-Hunky's llamas who has sneaked in while you're asleep!
Well then, things have gotten worse than I thought. Where is the firewall?? I demand protection!! I just may have to quit the forum. Again. But I will come back at some point and give everyone another chance. Before I get angry and quit...again. But I will be sure to post a BIG THREAD declaring that I'm quitting because I KNOW everyone will care. But then I will be back...again. Unless Mr. Super Hunky's llamas are still on the loose. In which case I'll quit...again.
That, is VERY funny!
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Ok, I'm thoroughly outraged by someones presumed outrage at my perceived sincerity of my assumed (total, complete, absolute) joking about the epic Fur Elise. So I'm quitting the forum..unless of course at least one person actually makes the mistake of not ignoring my planned departure and commenting on it saying something like "Oh please don't take this all so seriously, please stay" which will give me the straw I needed to grasp to stay on the forum which is really what I had planned all along because, frankly, without the forum what would I do all day? So...I quit!!!
@Peyton, "Please don't take all this so seriously. Please stay!"
You know we'd miss you terribly...and that's the truth!
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
First of all I have been participating on Piano World off and on, mostly off lately, for years and love the tone. It's unique among the forums I participate in.
There were actually 2 reasons I posted my comments.
One was that I remember when I was first starting in piano 64 years ago, I heard and learned Fur Elise and I was very excited about it and I expect that, even though we (including me) have heard it a zillion times) new people may well be very happy and proud that they have learned it, they have not heard it a zillion times. This is just one of many similar things discussed here.
The other was that a new poster made a comment on one of the other furums (fora?) referring to "The unbelievably snarky 'beat a dead horse' thread". That made me realize that it's purpose may not be getting across to everyone.
Additionally, my comments about computer 'techs' essentially making fun of non-techs brought back old memories from my working years in tech support.
That's all, just an observation.
We used to poke fun at people who wanted to wear subnet masks, just to be IN with us technoids. Believe it or not, we did have a few people convinced that we wore subnet masks and that made us SPECIAL, gave us a lot of our magic.
{Yeah, probably cruel, but it seemed innocent enough at the time}
We used to poke fun at people who wanted to wear subnet masks, just to be IN with us technoids. Believe it or not, we did have a few people convinced that we wore subnet masks and that made us SPECIAL, gave us a lot of our magic.
{Yeah, probably cruel, but it seemed innocent enough at the time}
It is pretty funny though, I hadn't heard that particular one before.
A subnet mask is a 32-bit bitmap mask in math to perform a simple logical and operation of two binary numbers in order to result in the sub-network number that any network device belongs to in an IPv4 network. It is used to sub-divide large networks into smaller ones. The Internet is the largest IPv4 network, and a subnet mask is required for any networked device that want to send packets to the network.
I have never seen a horse beaten by a 32-bit number before. I am not exactly sure how subnet masks have anything to do with this thread. Subnet masks cannot play Für Elise.
There's something for the laydees, too... a loopback (ad)dress. Very expensive, though - they cost 127,001.
A loop back address does not require a subnet mask. Only unicast and multicast addresses require it. Loopback addresses have no costs. Only real addresses have costs in most layer 3 routing protocols.
But if pedantry is the gag, addresses, per se, don't require masks.
Use of them may, and networks / subnet definitions do, and networking clients do.
But any tables of addresses - like DNS zones, or DHCP scopes don't track masks with addresses, just networks / subnets.
Even the configuration of an IP client the mask is really configured for the subnet the NIC is on. On a machine with more than one NIC may have different subnet masks on different NICs.
Even looking at the routing table, the mask is really a property of networks that the client is configured to know the routes to.
That's the sound of the last few posts flying right over my head
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
That's the sound of the last few posts flying right over my head
Wouldn't mind, but it was just a cheap gag for giggles - that's suddenly got overly tedious, because of pedantry that really misses the point of the thread being a parody (of a parody).
Wouldn't mind, but it was just a cheap gag for giggles - that's suddenly got overly tedious, because of pedantry that really misses the point of the thread being a parody (of a parody).
I suppose, but it felt very much like someone taking cheap shots at my own children....
Wouldn't mind, but it was just a cheap gag for giggles - that's suddenly got overly tedious, because of pedantry that really misses the point of the thread being a parody (of a parody).
I suppose, but it felt very much like someone taking cheap shots at my own children....
Ok, well, I think there was no harm intended, on either side, just humour gone wrong. It can happen.
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
Wouldn't mind, but it was just a cheap gag for giggles - that's suddenly got overly tedious, because of pedantry that really misses the point of the thread being a parody (of a parody).
I suppose, but it felt very much like someone taking cheap shots at my own children....
I think you should quit the forum!! But first make a big scene about quitting. And don't worry... I'll ask you to stay. (This is my favorite dead horse theme!!)
I think you should quit the forum!! But first make a big scene about quitting. And don't worry... I'll ask you to stay. (This is my favorite dead horse theme!!)
Peyton, you are so brilliant! Rightly or wrongly, I reacted to someone making fun of something I spent my whole life working on. I couldn't bare the insult of someone having my work and standards that made the Internet possible reduced to a gag. Therefore, I will *quit* the forum!
Yeah, you're preaching to the choir as I work frequently in the CCIE Lab and my office is just a couple of buildings over. We invented all this stuff.
I think that's overplaying things somewhat?
TCP/IP?
And stuff like DHCP and DNS? They were all RFC "committee" agreed standards.
Originally Posted by 8 Octaves
I don't agree with your assessment of DHCP.... lol, but please don't worry about it.
Worry?
Kinda like jazz - this is the internet, dude.
Anyways, all other things being equal, subnet masks tend to be scope properties (yes, yes, yes I know you're going to raise reservations, but I'll see that and call - as I said, it's just networking client configuration, the only difference in the DHCP scenario, is it's pushed).
And a DHCP client, it's initial foray into the network, and it'd have to discover things like subnet mask and first hop to any gateway / router.
This thread has really gone OT, don't you realise I only have days until my loved one's (insert special occasion here) and I promised her I would play Fur Elise Moonlight Sonata. Now if someone can just explain why every version I listen and watch is so slow and serious, is this what is referred to as "slow practice"?
I think you should quit the forum!! But first make a big scene about quitting. And don't worry... I'll ask you to stay. (This is my favorite dead horse theme!!)
Peyton, you are so brilliant! Rightly or wrongly, I reacted to someone making fun of something I spent my whole life working on. I couldn't bare the insult of someone having my work and standards that made the Internet possible reduced to a gag. Therefore, I will *quit* the forum!
8 octaves... PLEASE DON'T QUIT!!! Stay... we need you!!! You bring sanity to the forum.
8 octaves... PLEASE DON'T QUIT!!! Stay... we need you!!! You bring sanity to the forum.
Phew! I was getting crickets there. I think everybody else was celebrating.
Actually, on a serious note. I would like to ask we don't quote others' from past forum posts no matter how entertaining that may seem. It's a bit hitting below the belt. It's one thing to make fun of how do I learn Chopin Scherzo #2 by next week and quite another to dig up a post with poster's name and make fun of it.
Actually, on a serious note. I would like to ask we don't quote others' from past forum posts no matter how entertaining that may seem. It's a bit hitting below the belt. It's one thing to make fun of how do I learn Chopin Scherzo #2 by next week and quite another to dig up a post with poster's name and make fun of it.
We are idiots and puerile, but we're not monsters.....
We are idiots and puerile, but we're not monsters.....
I'm thinking of the quote of StarvingLion earlier in page 1/2 in this thread.... However we feel about the Lion, we shouldn't make fun of him.
True, I had to think seriously about it before posting that reference to StarvingLion but many did believe he/she was a troll. Whether that is true or not they were in a way making fun of all of us who take piano seriously. I hate to think if there were more around this forum like SL postulating crazy ideas how they might influence people.
True, I had to think seriously about it before posting that reference to StarvingLion but many did believe he/she was a troll. Whether that is true or not they were in a way making fun of all of us who take piano seriously. I hate to think if there were more around this forum like SL postulating crazy ideas how they might influence people.
I didn't even think he was making fun of us. I just thought he had exaggerated and unattainable goals. I guess I'm too gullible.
Actually, on a serious note. I would like to ask we don't quote others' from past forum posts no matter how entertaining that may seem. It's a bit hitting below the belt. It's one thing to make fun of how do I learn Chopin Scherzo #2 by next week and quite another to dig up a post with poster's name and make fun of it.
We are idiots and puerile, but we're not monsters.....
Oh, come now - surely there's a bit of monster in us all?
-- is it normal to play really well at home and then totally screw up when I play for my teacher? I'm sure he must think I never practice and that I'm hopeless.
Nope. Ditch the teacher. Maybe your teacher doesn't have your brand of digital piano. Always find a teacher teaching with your brand of digital piano. We all know that all digital pianos sound and feel just like a 9' concert grand.
True story - I was messing around with the DP demo song function, was playing Chopin Scherzo or something when the UPS delivery man rang the door. I stopped to answer the door, and he immediate said, "wow, don't stop playing, that was so great!" I didn't know whether I should spend the 30 seconds he didn't have to explain the demo song feature of a digital piano or say thank you, so I froze and he dashed off before I could react.
Actually MY digital pie_nanna sounds MUCH better than ANY grand, 7 ft., 9 ft., 12 ft. - best of all it NEVER goes out of tune and it doesn't make all those noises from bits of felt covered wood flying around and hitting things.
Who were they trying to kid ? Felt doesn't remove noise, it barely muffles 1/2 of it - or should I say 3db ?
8 octaves... PLEASE DON'T QUIT!!! Stay... we need you!!! You bring sanity to the forum.
Phew! I was getting crickets there. I think everybody else was celebrating.
Actually, on a serious note. I would like to ask we don't quote others' from past forum posts no matter how entertaining that may seem. It's a bit hitting below the belt. It's one thing to make fun of how do I learn Chopin Scherzo #2 by next week and quite another to dig up a post with poster's name and make fun of it.
Right, got it, no quoting. Oh.... Sorry bout that.
OK, so 8 Octaves has volunteered to write a FAQ "Guidelines For The Proper Use of Quotations in The Beat This Dead Horse Thread"
That will be excellent. I'm sure one of the mods will sticky it at the top. Thank you so much for doing this.
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Yep, the skills required to "Beat a dead horse" are the same skills which enable me to play "Fur Elise" effortlessly with my right index finger.
Rerun, why aren't you playing it with the seat of your pants?
Ahh, excellent question ... the "Seat of my pants" is a very kind name for that section of my right brain which meddles more with what the other nine fingers are up to on a keyboard ... that right index finger is kinda the straight arrow in the asylum.
Dead horse beating is a discipline, not unlike "I'm gonna learn which combinations of these 88 buttons to push no matter how long it takes".
Yep, the skills required to "Beat a dead horse" are the same skills which enable me to play "Fur Elise" effortlessly with my right index finger.
Rerun, why aren't you playing it with the seat of your pants?
Ahh, excellent question ... the "Seat of my pants" is a very kind name for that section of my right brain which meddles more with what the other nine fingers are up to on a keyboard ... that right index finger is kinda the straight arrow in the asylum.
Dead horse beating is a discipline, not unlike "I'm gonna learn which combinations of these 88 buttons to push no matter how long it takes".
I'm seeing parallels with the whole thousand monkeys on a typewriter thing.
Not least of all, because it's rumoured I have some resemblance.
So they say, what do they know... just wish I understood why my knuckles so often have abrasions.
I wanted to ask before I came right out and accused you of being an imposter who claims to play by the seat of his pants while in fact using his right index finger!
I wanted to ask before I came right out and accused you of being an imposter who claims to play by the seat of his pants while in fact using his right index finger!
Actually, most people on this site could play better with the seat of their pants than I could play if I had twelve fingers, this gal included (see the last 3 seconds or so, and thanks for the link, wow, she is excellent):
8 octaves... PLEASE DON'T QUIT!!! Stay... we need you!!! You bring sanity to the forum.
Phew! I was getting crickets there. I think everybody else was celebrating.
Actually, on a serious note. I would like to ask we don't quote others' from past forum posts no matter how entertaining that may seem. It's a bit hitting below the belt. It's one thing to make fun of how do I learn Chopin Scherzo #2 by next week and quite another to dig up a post with poster's name and make fun of it.
Right, got it, no quoting. Oh.... Sorry bout that.
OK, so 8 Octaves has volunteered to write a FAQ "Guidelines For The Proper Use of Quotations in The Beat This Dead Horse Thread"
That will be excellent. I'm sure one of the mods will sticky it at the top. Thank you so much for doing this.
Yes Jim, I'll sticky it - along with all the other threads referenced here so that everyone can get the jokes - I know that all the ABFers will love the extra stickies!
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
18 ABF Recitals, Order of the Red Dot European Piano Parties - Brussels, Lisbon, Lucern, Milan, Malaga, St. Goar Themed recitals: Grieg and Great American Songbook
OK, so 8 Octaves has volunteered to write a FAQ "Guidelines For The Proper Use of Quotations in The Beat This Dead Horse Thread"
That will be excellent. I'm sure one of the mods will sticky it at the top. Thank you so much for doing this.
I think I'm already in enough trouble around here, and I will leave the Beat The Dead Horse FAQ to casinitaly and go back to practicing Für Elise. Since every beginner with 3 weeks of lessons have mastered Für Elise, and I have two months of lessons, I will mastered Für Elise with my feet, using only the big toe.
A subnet mask is a 32-bit bitmap mask in math to perform a simple logical and operation of two binary numbers in order to result in the sub-network number that any network device belongs to in an IPv4 network. It is used to sub-divide large networks into smaller ones. The Internet is the largest IPv4 network, and a subnet mask is required for any networked device that want to send packets to the network.
I have never seen a horse beaten by a 32-bit number before. I am not exactly sure how subnet masks have anything to do with this thread. Subnet masks cannot play Für Elise.
Nope; "XOR", not "AND" Half adders and all that....
A subnet mask is a 32-bit bitmap mask in math to perform a simple logical and operation of two binary numbers in order to result in the sub-network number that any network device belongs to in an IPv4 network. It is used to sub-divide large networks into smaller ones. The Internet is the largest IPv4 network, and a subnet mask is required for any networked device that want to send packets to the network.
I have never seen a horse beaten by a 32-bit number before. I am not exactly sure how subnet masks have anything to do with this thread. Subnet masks cannot play Für Elise.
Nope; "XOR", not "AND" Half adders and all that....
Is a half adder the part with the head or without?
So my wife asks me 'how was your drubbing today?'. I told her not too bad I guess. It's the price you pay for being a grand-stander!
But this time I'm getting double-whammied as the #1 thread is back in circulation so I've got it coming at my from both sides. Plus Peyton seems to be REALLY lathered up this time. I'm starting to get concerned.
And in addition to all that, the recital is not for another week (when things usually start to calm down) so I may just have to sit here with the garden hose on warding off the mischief night crowd. It's okay though as I've got great aim and even better water pressure!
A subnet mask is a 32-bit bitmap mask in math to perform a simple logical and operation of two binary numbers in order to result in the sub-network number that any network device belongs to in an IPv4 network. It is used to sub-divide large networks into smaller ones. The Internet is the largest IPv4 network, and a subnet mask is required for any networked device that want to send packets to the network.
I have never seen a horse beaten by a 32-bit number before. I am not exactly sure how subnet masks have anything to do with this thread. Subnet masks cannot play Für Elise.
Nope; "XOR", not "AND" Half adders and all that....
Dagnabbit. I retired from IT networking 6 months ago so I wouldn't have to see this kind of stuff anymore. Stop it before I load up my shotgun with salt pellets and I TCP your IP.
Dagnabbit. I retired from IT networking 6 months ago so I wouldn't have to see this kind of stuff anymore. Stop it before I load up my shotgun with salt pellets and I TCP your IP.
Duly noted. I will ignore all comments relating to computers and only discuss playing Für Elise from here on out. Did I tell you I've already mastered playing it with my big toe, so I will move on to Moonlight sonata next.
Duly noted. I will ignore all comments relating to computers and only discuss playing Für Elise from here on out. Did I tell you I've already mastered playing it with my big toe, so I will move on to Moonlight sonata next.
Well, I recently watched a YouTube Für Elise with big toe by a 3 year old from south Asia so I'm not that impressed. Now, if you're talking 3rd movement of Moonlight - please make a recording so that we can all provide opinions and then excoriate others' ignorance of classic vs. romantic era big-piggie small-piggie octaves.
Well, I recently watched a YouTube Für Elise with big toe by a 3 year old from south Asia so I'm not that impressed. Now, if you're talking 3rd movement of Moonlight - please make a recording so that we can all provide opinions and then excoriate others' ignorance of classic vs. romantic era big-piggie small-piggie octaves.
What are you talking about? The Moonlight Sonata has movements? I thought it's the song from the typical wedding CD's.
What are you talking about? The Moonlight Sonata has movements? I thought it's the song from the typical wedding CD's.
Sheesh. Why are you even here?
If you note my many compositions developed in sub-electron orbit microtones expressly for 14 or 15 fingers, you'll accept my opinion as irrefutable fact. I suggest you back away from the piano and try a ukelele or six sided triangle. Leave this forum to the real experts. (My therapist agrees.)
So my wife asks me 'how was your drubbing today?'. I told her not too bad I guess. It's the price you pay for being a grand-stander!
But this time I'm getting double-whammied as the #1 thread is back in circulation so I've got it coming at my from both sides.
SH, it seems to me you should be totally outraged and quit the forum!! Think of the thread title... "You won't have Mr. Super Hunky to kick around no more!!" then you will find out who your REAL friends are. Who comes a runnin to beg you to stay and who...like the preverbal crickets, stay silently on the sidelines waiting to see what will happen. The PM's will fly silently in the night like bats and the intrigue and drama will be thick enough to cut with a knife. And of course it will all end in kind of a fizzle as you are "convinced" to stay until the next outragable drubbing.
A subnet mask is a 32-bit bitmap mask in math to perform a simple logical and operation of two binary numbers in order to result in the sub-network number that any network device belongs to in an IPv4 network. It is used to sub-divide large networks into smaller ones. The Internet is the largest IPv4 network, and a subnet mask is required for any networked device that want to send packets to the network.
I have never seen a horse beaten by a 32-bit number before. I am not exactly sure how subnet masks have anything to do with this thread. Subnet masks cannot play Für Elise.
Nope; "XOR", not "AND" Half adders and all that....
Is a half adder the part with the head or without?
I'm guessing he/she typed in "half adders" with different letters for the two d's and the PW software changed them. I've had that happen to me a couple of times.
Yamaha C3X In summer, the song sings itself. --William Carlos Williams
What are you talking about? The Moonlight Sonata has movements? I thought it's the song from the typical wedding CD's.
Sheesh. Why are you even here?
If you note my many compositions developed in sub-electron orbit microtones expressly for 14 or 15 fingers, you'll accept my opinion as irrefutable fact. I suggest you back away from the piano and try a ukelele or six sided triangle. Leave this forum to the real experts. (My therapist agrees.)
A six-sided triangle. I LOVE it!
Sometimes when we go botanizing, we come across green violets (Cubelium concolor). For real.
Yamaha C3X In summer, the song sings itself. --William Carlos Williams
If you note my many compositions developed in sub-electron orbit microtones expressly for 14 or 15 fingers, you'll accept my opinion as irrefutable fact. I suggest you back away from the piano and try a ukelele or six sided triangle. Leave this forum to the real experts. (My therapist agrees.)
Is it OK if I practice on a digital ukulele? My neighbors don't allow practicing after 8pm, so I cannot own an acoustic ukulele.
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