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#2341008 - Yesterday at 01:35 PM Recording the results of Pianoteq
Roger Ransom Online   content
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Registered: 01/19/05
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I REALLY tried to find this info in this forum and failed.

I have a Roland FP7 and I have the audio output connected to a Digidesign Mbox2. The MBox is then connected with USB to my computer. This all works great and I use Audacity to record.

Now I want to try using Pianoteq and I'm having trouble recording. I connected the FP7 MIDI cable to the MBox and the MBox is still connected to the computer with USB. I installed the trial version of Pianoteq and set it up. While I was installing Pianoteq it wants ASIO drivers for the MBox. The MBox has them so I configured that and Pianoteq is working fine with my speakers or headphones connected to monitor on the MBox.

However, I want to record what I'm playing and Audacity will not record it now. I hit record and there is a flat line. The recording input still says MBox.

Is that because of the ASIO drivers? Audacity says they can't include ASIO because of licensing.

If that's the problem, is there another piece of (hopefully free) software I can use to record my FP7/Pianoteq playing?

I'm clearly missing something. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Edited by Roger Ransom (Yesterday at 01:35 PM)
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#2341021 - Yesterday at 01:45 PM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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I guess I'm confused. Pianoteq has recording built right in. Even in the demo version you should see it right below the menu in the Pianoteq window.

#2341022 - Yesterday at 01:46 PM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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can't you save your last Pianoteq performance as a wav? Not sure if the demo allows that...

you'd then feed that wav file into audacity or any editor and be done with it...
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#2341039 - Yesterday at 02:17 PM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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Nope, I'm the one that's confused. I didn't notice the recording buttons right in Pianoteq.

Apparently I was making it too hard.

I'll work on that, thanks.
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#2341041 - Yesterday at 02:20 PM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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On pianoteq interface:
File -> export wave file (or Ctrl + E)
When you use your ASIO driver, the WDM audio driver doesn't work.

#2341065 - Yesterday at 03:07 PM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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OK, thanks a lot folks. It works great when I used the built in recorder.
The recording and the .WAV export are easy to use.

I'm ordering the 'stage' version at least for now. I'll see how it goes.
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#2341274 - Today at 09:02 AM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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Just for future reference, the problem with your setup is that you have this all being processed as MIDI and not audio:

The FP-7 is sending signals on which note and velocity to play, not as actual sound, but just information. This goes into the mbox2 (not sure why this is needed, as the fp7 is capable of plugging directly into the computer via USB to send the MIDI signal) and then from there, goes into the computer. So far, no sounds have been made. Once it's in the computer, the Asio driver directs it to Pianoteq, which translates the MIDI signal to play specific sounds. This audio signal then goes back out of the computer via the line out, or it could be directed back to the mbox2 and whatever headphones and speakers are attached, or back out to the fp7 to play through those speakers (MIDI thru).

In order for a program like Audacity to record the sound once it's realized, it would have to come after Pianoteq has processed it. I'm not sure audacity is capable of dealing with this, i've never gotten it to work, anyways. But there are DAWs out there like Reaper, Logic, Protools, Cubase, etc. that can process VSTs like Pianoteq as a plug-in and record that data. The benefit to this, of course, is that the recording stays as MIDI information and the program will just play back the file using Pianoteq 's sounds. As MIDI, you can make adjustments to your recording to fix wrong notes, velocities, and timing. When you're done, you can then process the file as a wav file via the audio mixdown, where the software virtually plays and records as audio.

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#2341323 - Today at 12:19 PM Re: Recording the results of Pianoteq [Re: Roger Ransom]
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Yes, I knew exactly what MIDI is and I'm using the MBox2 because I also use microphones to record my acoustic piano and it lets me connect them easily. So it was easiest to just use it seeing how it's already sitting right next to me. Plus I'm out of USB ports and would rather not buy a USB hub.

I did not understand ASIO drivers though and that's where my issue was. However, with Pianoteq I can record right in the program and then export to a WAV file. If I need to I can just open the WAV file with Audacity if I want to use any of it's capabilities (like normalize for instance). I tried it.

Anyway, it's working great now and I'm having fun exploring Pianoteq.

Thanks for the information, it's good stuff and I'm a happy puppy. smile

Edited by Roger Ransom (Today at 12:27 PM)
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