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#234275 - 05/03/08 01:56 PM Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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In these days I had the occasion to play on a 10 years old C7. It was really convincing: great sustain, clear treble and bass, powerful bass. I noticed also that the action was very responsive and smooth. In the same place I played on a C3 and a C5. Apart the obvious sound differences the action was not so responsive. Do you know if there're some technical differences between the C7 action and C3/C5 action? What about the materials? I mean, does Yamaha use better materials in C7?

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#234276 - 05/03/08 02:01 PM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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The actions are the same. The differences you experienced were probably a result of regulation and lubrication.
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#234277 - 05/03/08 02:14 PM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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The Yamaha C7 action has longer keys than the C3/C5 action. It also has heavier hammers. And, of course, the big sound difference between these pianos affects your percetpion of the feel. The quality of the materials is probably identical in all 3, although, the hammers in the C7, I think are of a different design in addition to being heavier.
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#234278 - 05/03/08 03:59 PM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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Originally posted by Keith D Kerman:
The Yamaha C7 action has longer keys than the C3/C5 action. It also has heavier hammers. [/b]
Thank you very much! I supposed that the keys were longer and your answer confirms my idea. Is the action of C7 the same of CFIII ?

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#234279 - 05/04/08 08:31 AM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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What do you think about voicing a bright Yamaha? I know that almost all the pianists would get their Yamahas voiced mellower and I like a mellower sound too. But I have noticed that when technicians voice Yamaha in such a way the piano tends to lose clarity and power.As a consequence it's very difficult to play ff or fff. So I must admit that I prefer not voicing a Yamaha piano, if not really necessary. And when it happens you hope that the technician doesn't kill your hammers.

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#234280 - 05/04/08 02:55 PM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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I'm a beginner in the process of looking at pianos, but a technician/retailer recently suggested that if you need that extent of voicing, you probably bought the wrong piano.

He suggested that Yamahas are bright .... you can't voice that out of a Yamaha by needling the hammers. If you don't like the tone, keep looking.
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#234281 - 05/04/08 04:55 PM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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ditto
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#234282 - 05/04/08 06:44 PM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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I agree and than I don't. We changed hammer, shank flanges on two older C7 one with Abel the other with Renner Premium Blues. They sounded beautiful!.
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#234283 - 05/05/08 09:20 AM Re: Yamaha C7 vs. C3/C5
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I agree and than I don't. We changed hammer, shank flanges on two older C7 one with Abel the other with Renner Premium Blues. They sounded beautiful!. [/b]
Very interesting. It should be interesting to listen to short recordings of such instruments in order to compare them.

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