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#2350785 - 11/15/14 09:20 PM Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow
marcuslchoi Offline
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Registered: 10/06/14
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I am a classically trained jazz pianist, and in this version of Over the Rainbow (including notes/changes), I used a lot of my classical training for technique and expression. I used my jazz training for rhythmic, re-harmonizational and improvisational alterations. Please check it out and tell me what you think!

Piano Lesson: Over the Rainbow - Improv, reharm, mystery, sadness, surprise (variations): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEzQOe66ZNI

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#2352374 - 11/19/14 03:05 PM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: marcuslchoi]
Michael Martinez Offline
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Other than the fact it doesn't sound like jazz, it's nice.
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#2352621 - 11/20/14 04:55 AM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: marcuslchoi]
Nahum Offline
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marcuslchoi , It sounds wonderful! Interestingly Your addiction to black keys; That you have learned to yourself?

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#2353064 - 11/21/14 04:59 AM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: marcuslchoi]
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Nice arrangement. I especially like the passage when the main tune comes back after the middle section. Some nice harmony using a B pedal note!
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#2353071 - 11/21/14 05:32 AM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: marcuslchoi]
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- impressive playing and an enviable technique but don't forget that swing and lyricism are important components in jazz. I'm not hearing either in your playing of these pieces. Perhaps in another recording?

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#2353076 - 11/21/14 06:10 AM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: marcuslchoi]
Nahum Offline
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I do not think it is necessary to cram playing marcuslchoi in tight jazz framework. There is a clear-cut style, bending around traditional rhythmic idioms. This can be determined as a classic - like music with harmonic elements of jazz - one of the signs of our time music .

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#2353078 - 11/21/14 06:21 AM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: Nahum]
dire tonic Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nahum
I do not think it is necessary to cram playing marcuslchoi in tight jazz framework. There is a clear-cut style, bending around traditional rhythmic idioms. This can be determined as a classic - like music with harmonic elements of jazz - one of the signs of our time music .


True to say that none of us is making music inside a regulatory framework - we can all play *anything* we like and we can call it *whatever* we like. We can agree to disagree.

My observation goes more to where I think the marcuslchoi's focus should be. What he's doing he can do rather well so for a classical player who's trying to find his jazz feet it would do no harm to look for weaknesses and work on them.

I've suggested a couple of avenues worthy of development.

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#2353112 - 11/21/14 08:59 AM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: marcuslchoi]
Nahum Offline
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I guess that Marcus refers to the generation of even eighths, not triplet rhythm that he definitely heard. His playing rhythm reminds his teacher (as written on the internet) - Jean Michel Pilc , especially passages .In YouTube you can see a clip from the concert.

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#2355579 - Yesterday at 05:17 PM Re: Transitioning from classical to jazz: Over the Rainbow [Re: dire tonic]
Herr Weiss Offline
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Registered: 12/26/12
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Loc: New York, N.Y.
Originally Posted By: dire tonic
- impressive playing and an enviable technique but don't forget that swing and lyricism are important components in jazz. I'm not hearing either in your playing of these pieces. Perhaps in another recording?


I agree with the constructive critique by dire tonic.

That 'swing' is important and can be achieved by listening to recordings that, well, swing.

At the moment it sounds more like:

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