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I played first movement of Sonata g minor by Schumann and tried to play the last movement. Wow....that's heavy stuff...........chapeau Respect, regards, Johan B
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I'm going to play it at Schumann's Recital, I hope I'll manage to do it...
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I just finished playing the Hammerklavier Sonata, and am therefore exhausted. (Today I played the sonatas from 23-29, leaving only the last three for the fifth day to complete the cycle.)
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OK here is one for you beginners. After 14 months using Faber lesson books, I'm temporarily moving into a nice collection of pieces at my level (mid-elementary) that span four different musical eras. I'm trying to learn a piece in its original form (Valsette by Vogel) and this requires a bit more sophistication in left/right hand coordination than I'm used to. After 30 minutes the whole sounds like, well, crap. After 60 minutes I'm beginning to get a sense of this thing. After 90 minutes I have the basic fingering and dynamics, but I'm playing it at half speed. And... there will be no more tonight as the grand is next to the bedroom and I'm getting nasty looks from my better half. Seriously though, for those folks at the early to mid-elementary level, these pieces are really nice ways to advance your skills. Plus, although most of them are really simple, they are all in their original form. I feel good about that. P.S. The supplemental book I'm learning from is The Festival Collection (Level 1) compiled by Helen Marlais.
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I'm going to play it at Schumann's Recital, I hope I'll manage to do it... Recital.......nice......good luck.......say: Yes, I can..... Regards, JohannB
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OK here is one for you beginners. After 14 months using Faber lesson books, I'm temporarily moving into a nice collection of pieces at my level (mid-elementary) that span four different musical eras. I'm trying to learn a piece in its original form (Valsette by Vogel) and this requires a bit more sophistication in left/right hand coordination than I'm used to. After 30 minutes the whole sounds like, well, crap. After 60 minutes I'm beginning to get a sense of this thing. After 90 minutes I have the basic fingering and dynamics, but I'm playing it at half speed. And... there will be no more tonight as the grand is next to the bedroom and I'm getting nasty looks from my better half. Seriously though, for those folks at the early to mid-elementary level, these pieces are really nice ways to advance your skills. Plus, although most of them are really simple, they are all in their original form. I feel good about that. P.S. The supplemental book I'm learning from is The Festival Collection (Level 1) compiled by Helen Marlais. Struggling through the scores......you know, after some time you will enjoy the music you studied...... Nasty better half.........? Give flowers or use headphones Regards, Johan B
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20 novemberPlaying Sonatines.......... Reinecke & Diabelli And at the end.....small pieces of Wilm and Bertini. .......What did you play tonight?........Regards, Johan B
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I just finished my five-day traversal of all 32 Beethoven piano sonatas.
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I just finished my five-day traversal of all 32 Beethoven piano sonatas. Five days Beethoven.....wow.....great job....... Respect! Johan B
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I just finished my five-day traversal of all 32 Beethoven piano sonatas. Congrats! That's a lot of music. Ah, I have so many questions for you. Pick any of the following questions to answer. - Have you done this before? - Anything surprised you during the past five days? (themes you've missed before, a surprise dark horse sonata that you now like more/dislike more) - Have you studied these sonata before or are you sightreading? If you've sightread some of these, how does one sightread a Beethoven sonata?! I always wondered how advanced pianists can sightread really difficult works. - Why did you decide to play through the entire cycle? Why the Beethoven Sonata as opposed to any other classical corpus? - What are some discoveries that you wouldn't have made if you were just working through one or two sonatas at a time?
Working on Beethoven's Appassionata Sonata, Mvt 3.
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As for me, I worked on polishing the middle section of Bach's C Minor Fugue (Book 1) and learning the notes to the last few lines. I have two frustrations: 1) I can't get the voicing right. I think it's better than the previous session but it still seems very jumbled, like the different voices clash with one another rather than complementing. It's like when everybody is trying to talk over one another. 2) I don't really understand what this piece is about. When I play other pieces, a story usually pops into my head. Sometimes it's a memory, sometimes it's an emotion. When I play Bach, I get nothing. For your reference, I posted my practice notes and recordings here: http://pianonot.es/2014/11/voicing-continued/
Working on Beethoven's Appassionata Sonata, Mvt 3.
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2) I don't really understand what this piece is about. When I play other pieces, a story usually pops into my head. Sometimes it's a memory, sometimes it's an emotion. When I play Bach, I get nothing.
Bach in general? or just this piece? As for Bach evoking emotions, or not, that's interesting. I think Bach is beautiful in the way that advanced mathematics is beautiful -- the structure and the logic behind it. I find that Bach pieces often move me with their intrinsic beauty, in the same way that an equation like Euler's identity can. I don't know if you like math or not, but it makes me wonder if there's a correlation between people who hate Bach and who hate math.
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- Have you done this before? I'm sure I have, although I don't remember any specific instances. - Anything surprised you during the past five days? (themes you've missed before, a surprise dark horse sonata that you now like more/dislike more) Beethoven always has something new to tell you. If you've sightread some of these, how does one sightread a Beethoven sonata?! I always wondered how advanced pianists can sightread really difficult works. There is no magic formula. Start with the basic stuff and move up. Most people will never get to the level of sightreading Beethoven sonatas, but anyone can reach a decent level of proficiency in time. - Why did you decide to play through the entire cycle? Why the Beethoven Sonata as opposed to any other classical corpus? Because the Beethoven sonatas are arguably the greatest classical corpus. - What are some discoveries that you wouldn't have made if you were just working through one or two sonatas at a time? The intricate ways in which Beethoven's sonata writing progressed throughout his life. Playing through all the piano sonatas is somewhat like living Beethoven's life - it's a more complete experience than you could get with any of his other cycles.
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Your quote: The intricate ways in which Beethoven's sonata writing progressed throughout his life. Playing through all the piano sonatas is somewhat like living Beethoven's life - it's a more complete experience than you could get with any of his other cycles.
Polyphonist,...you 're right........see the development of the life of a composer in his works....... Mozart....the same.......Sonatas < KV300 are quite different from > KV300....
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What did I play tonight? Scales, and more scales. And more scales. And arpeggios. The exam is in six days. Eeek! Pieces are fine, but the scales under pressure can crack. So, more scales.
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What did I play tonight? Scales, and more scales. And more scales. And arpeggios. The exam is in six days. Eeek! Pieces are fine, but the scales under pressure can crack. So, more scales. Swiss...or just less scales.....RELAX...... And...play in the morning......( I play better at 11am) in morning the brain is better, according to my adult son who is a neuroscientist.......in the evening...play Edelweiss or something like that.... Regards, Johan B
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One hour of Haydn Sonatas........(difficult; I played them not for one month) and after that some small works of different composers.
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As for me, I worked on polishing the middle section of Bach's C Minor Fugue (Book 1) and learning the notes to the last few lines. I have two frustrations: 1) I can't get the voicing right. I think it's better than the previous session but it still seems very jumbled, like the different voices clash with one another rather than complementing. It's like when everybody is trying to talk over one another. 2) I don't really understand what this piece is about. When I play other pieces, a story usually pops into my head. Sometimes it's a memory, sometimes it's an emotion. When I play Bach, I get nothing. For your reference, I posted my practice notes and recordings here: http://pianonot.es/2014/11/voicing-continued/ Never have stories popping up into my head....when playing Bach.......let's say......that music is abstract......it's the sounds that counts......... Regards Johan B
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This is one of the few evenings I really had the opportunity to practice. I'm currently brushing up some Mendelssohn pieces I played for the themed recital some time ago (and even a few of the ones I didn't submit for the recital). Then I have been working on a new long term project, the great Rondo a la Mazur by Chopin. I think I have got it up to about 80% of what is realistic for me. Unfortunately the remaining 20% is going to take 80% of the total time. If I continue practicing the way I have done for about six weeks now I think I'll be able to play the whole piece decently about 6 months from now.
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This is one of the few evenings I really had the opportunity to practice. I'm currently brushing up some Mendelssohn pieces I played for the themed recital some time ago (and even a few of the ones I didn't submit for the recital). Then I have been working on a new long term project, the great Rondo a la Mazur by Chopin. I think I have got it up to about 80% of what is realistic for me. Unfortunately the remaining 20% is going to take 80% of the total time. If I continue practicing the way I have done for about six weeks now I think I'll be able to play the whole piece decently about 6 months from now. Ganddalf, I know what you are saying. For me the same this evening. Tonight I played a number of Haydn sonatas. I did'nt play them for months. First I played from about 6.00 - 7.30pm.......wow....a lot of mistakes. Just I played them again 10.00-11.30pm.....sounds better, but it will take more time to polish these sonatas. My problem: can'nt update my whole repertoire every day....... Best regards, Johan B
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