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#2354871 - Today at 01:18 AM New piano student
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Registered: 04/03/14
Posts: 9
I just started learning piano from Nov and currently going for grade 5 but the piano I have is a digital piano (casio px150) I bought it before I started piano lessons as a hobby and became more interested in it after learning chopin's op64. No.2. The dilema I have right now is, my piano teacher told me I'll have to get a better piano something like an upright. Recently i found an es7 kawai 2nd hand at about half it's price I was wondering if the upgrade is worth and how the es7 would compare to a 2.5k 2nd hand piano interms of action and sound and if I should get it for my piano lessons.

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#2354883 - Today at 02:04 AM Re: New piano student [Re: IWG.]
panino Offline
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Registered: 10/16/14
Posts: 19
Loc: Germany
If you have the choice: REAL PIANO!
If there are neighbours etc., you want it to be light for carrying around: Digital!
Nothing sounds and feels like real tonal vibrations. My sister had an old Steinway upright which I loved to play. When playing my digital keyboard there was missing a lot. But I have neighbours and generally play many hours a day - I like to play my clone too.

#2354907 - Today at 04:22 AM Re: New piano student [Re: IWG.]
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Registered: 11/08/09
Posts: 2433
Loc: UK
The PX150 will take you quite far along the journey to grade 5, and if you have just started that might be a while yet.. I would wait until you have a little bit more experience of learning and playing, then you will have the knowledge to make these judgements yourself. But since you appear to be already considering an acoustic, and if you don't need the advantages of a digital (no tuning, headphones, other features and extensions. ...etc) an acoustic is likely the way to go rather than the Kawai.

#2354937 - Today at 07:59 AM Re: New piano student [Re: IWG.]
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Registered: 04/07/14
Posts: 46
I'm unsure what you're saying.

1) You've previously learned piano in the past on your own but just started official lessons and your teacher is teaching you Grade 5 material right now.

2) You've never learned before, just started lessons this month and your goal is to play at Grade 5 level.

If it's #1, you probably need regular practice on an acoustic or something as close as possible.

If it's #2, you are quite a bit away. I'm surprised your teacher would immediately tell you to get an acoustic at your level.

#2355023 - Today at 12:08 PM Re: New piano student [Re: IWG.]
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Registered: 01/13/14
Posts: 35
A teacher shouldnt push like that to get an instrument, get the acoustic when you feel you need it.

Or ask him exactly what he doesnt like about the PX150 and what limitations he thinks is possing on your learning. Discuss the issue with him, maybe he has a point, maybe not.

An alternative if you want something with better dynamics would be Pianoteq or other virtual Piano to use with the Privia.

#2355282 - 30 minutes 8 seconds ago Re: New piano student [Re: MossySF]
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Registered: 04/03/14
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I've never learn piano and just started official lessons but i am going for grade 5 grading next year. The teacher said that on a digital piano the dynamics aren't good enough and at least a upright would be perfered if i was to continue after grade 5

#2355285 - 24 minutes 4 seconds ago Re: New piano student [Re: login]
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Registered: 04/03/14
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The thing is, i do feel that i need it. The PX150 IMO is good enough for a hobby but not good enough to express the piano pieces. But i do like the functions of a digital piano ( ie. able to adjust volume, silent, able to practice anytime, no need for tuning. ) which is why im not sure if i should get the es7 or a upright.

#2355289 - 3 minutes 18 seconds ago Re: New piano student [Re: IWG.]
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Registered: 04/07/14
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You must be practicing hours every day to hit Grade 5 in a year from zero piano.

You are right that most digital pianos don't have enough distinct velocity layers to give enough expressiveness for classical pianos. You can try using a software piano to see that helps any. I use Pianoteq with my PX150 and it's a huge difference. They have a free demo version -- test it out first to see if gets you close enough.


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